Has PSU ticketing overshot?

[Matter7172]

I was taking a look at sales for the Nebraska and Ohio State matches and they are pretty underwhelming. Part of me is happy that their hubris is being rewarded appropriately. But another part is surprised that ticket sales are so slow.

The more expensive lower bowl is sold, but lots and lots of seats remain in the upper bowl.

The first part of me is hoping this means more Rec Hall matches and less BJC matches going forward.

 

[Snoopy226]

It’s not BJC in my opinion, it’s $$$$. Way too expensive for the casual fan.

PSU was selling upper bowl of BJC for $10 or less not too long ago. Now they are $50.

PSU wrestling is extremely popular by wrestling standards. By normal sports standards, not even close.

 

[Nitlion1986]

Somebody did a poor calculation of most money feasible while maintaining 15,998 fans in seats. If we are going to wrestle in BJC the primary goal needs to be 15,998 rear ends in seats. I am OK with gouging enough to maximize revenue as long as the primary goal is 15,998 attendance.

 

[PAgeologist]

Whats the best avenue to get tickets for either the OSU or Neb matches? Id prefer to avoid all the ticket master fees if possible.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

This probably doesn't help you now, but, assuming you were willing to pay the advertised price, the most reliable approach would've been make a small donation to the NLC to be a member and participate in the NLC presale.

Now, it seems you are left to: 1) the kindness of another ticket holder, such as on this board; or 2) potentially waiting to near the last minute when the pricing algorithm may reduce ticket costs.

If you choose 1) then ask here:

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[PSU_Lion_Fan]

This probably doesn't help you now, but, assuming you were willing to pay the advertised price, the most reliable approach would've been make a small donation to the NLC to be a member and participate in the NLC presale.

Now, it seems you are left to: 1) the kindness of another ticket holder, such as on this board; or 2) potentially waiting to near the last minute when the pricing algorithm may reduce ticket costs.

If you choose 1) then ask here:

2025-26 Wrestling Buying/Selling Tix Thread - Forums

I see that folks started posting about 2025-26 tickets in the 2024-25 Buying/Selling Tix thread. So, it's time to start a thread for the upcoming season. Please use this thread if you have PSU tix to sell, or are looking to purchase PSU tix. Neither BWI nor I get involved in the process -- you...

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Presale prices are the same as those that the general public pays. Presale only gets you early choice of seating.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

Presale prices are the same as those that the general public pays. Presale only gets you early choice of seating.

Understood. But even calling the ticket office for presale orders (only a past practice?) incurs a fee (albeit for the whole order and NOT based on the ticket price--again, at least in the past).

(I did write "assuming you're willing to pay the published price.")

 

[JA1339]

Somebody did a poor calculation of most money feasible while maintaining 15,998 fans in seats. If we are going to wrestle in BJC the primary goal needs to be 15,998 rear ends in seats. I am OK with gouging enough to maximize revenue as long as the primary goal is 15,998 attendance.

Agree completely.

I’ll also add that if someone with a family of 4 hesitated to go based on cost of tickets, watching our squad steamroll the Oklahoma backups probably doesn’t convince them to pull the trigger next time.

 

[Sandy2176]

It’s not BJC in my opinion, it’s $$$$. Way too expensive for the casual fan.

PSU was selling upper bowl of BJC for $10 or less not too long ago. Now they are $50.

PSU wrestling is extremely popular by wrestling standards. By normal sports standards, not even close.

Agreed , wrestling is a blue collar sport. I'd rather have more fans than a little more money. More fans equals more fun

 

[PSU Mike]

Agreed , wrestling is a blue collar sport. I'd rather have more fans than a little more money. More fans equals more fun

How do you spend fun?

 

[Fatwoodchuck]

How do you spend fun?

F.U.N. Fully Undressed-Nude!

 

[Nitlion1986]

How do you spend fun?

Fun buys concessions and apparel.

 

[Just another PSU Fan]

$24 per ticket as the FEE to Ticketmaster!

 

[mcpat]

This is one of the impacts of revenue sharing.

There are approx. 6700 season ticket holders and 9,300 other available seats at a BJC match.

9300 x $25 = $232,500
4,650 x $50 = $232,500

Sell more than 4,650 tickets, and it’s better for PSU athletics to double the price.

 

[WexfordWarrior]

I never knew that when I first bought my season tickets @ $6 in 2010 that it has evolved to this.

 

[Sandy2176]

This is one of the impacts of revenue sharing.

There are approx. 6700 season ticket holders and 9,300 other available seats at a BJC match.

9300 x $25 = $232,500
4,650 x $50 = $232,500

Sell more than 4,650 tickets, and it’s better for PSU athletics to double the price.

 

[mcpat]

Ugh. Create a delete post option already!

 

[ScottishSteel]

This is one of the impacts of revenue sharing.

There are approx. 6700 season ticket holders and 9,300 other available seats at a BJC match.

9300 x $25 = $232,500
4,650 x $50 = $232,500

Sell more than 4,650 tickets, and it’s better for PSU athletics to double the price.

The BJC is not an athletics facility though; any sporting event in the BJC the Athletic department pays to rent/utilize the space plus the additional cost of all the bells and whistles which they would not have to do at Rec. I don't know the exact figures but it's also significantly more expensive on the Athletic Department's wallet to have a BJC event than a Rec Hall event

 

[pawrstlersinpa]

Less the cost of renting the BJC. If we had access to the old BWI threads (as we were told we would), I'm pretty sure someone got this number. If my recollection is right, the breakeven at the time was 13,000 butts in seats, but that's been a long time, and I've slept since then. It also would require some assumptions that probably no one is privy to.

 

[El_Jefe]

Less the cost of renting the BJC. If we had access to the old BWI threads (as we were told we would), I'm pretty sure someone got this number. If my recollection is right, the breakeven at the time was 13,000 butts in seats, but that's been a long time, and I've slept since then. It also would require some assumptions that probably no one is privy to.

I'm the one who did the math before -- many years ago. I don't remember the break-even point, but it was big. The general takeaway was that BJC would be a cash cow for Iowa or Ohio State, but a potential money-loser for a mid-February dual vs. Purdue or Michigan State.

That calculation is no longer relevant, since ticket prices are now different for both facilities. And if we know anything about PSU, the BJC rental fee didn't go down.

Also to be clear: the "break-even" is not relative to the BJC rental fee. It's where BJC (ticket revenue - facility fee) >= Rec Hall ticket revenue.

Other factors not included in the math are parking and concessions.

Also, the bigger facility/bigger attendance would require more security. Not clear if that is included with the BJC rental fee.

 

[a_mshaffer]

I'm the one who did the math before -- many years ago. I don't remember the break-even point, but it was big. The general takeaway was that BJC would be a cash cow for Iowa or Ohio State, but a potential money-loser for a mid-February dual vs. Purdue or Michigan State.

That calculation is no longer relevant, since ticket prices are now different for both facilities. And if we know anything about PSU, the BJC rental fee didn't go down.

Also to be clear: the "break-even" is not relative to the BJC rental fee. It's where BJC (ticket revenue - facility fee) >= Rec Hall ticket revenue.

Other factors not included in the math are parking and concessions.

Also, the bigger facility/bigger attendance would require more security. Not clear if that is included with the BJC rental fee.

BJC is outdated.... rental fee's should be reduced unless you have a captive renter

 

[JA1339]

If you held the tOSU dual at Rec Hall, fewer visitors could attend, and we’d be treated to Tan Tom’s whining. That’s priceless!

 

[Nitlion1986]

If you held the tOSU dual at Rec Hall, fewer visitors could attend, and we’d be treated to Tan Tom’s whining. That’s priceless!

No excuses for Buck fans not buying as many tickets as they want, plenty of available seats for sell.

 

[ScottishSteel]

I'm the one who did the math before -- many years ago. I don't remember the break-even point, but it was big. The general takeaway was that BJC would be a cash cow for Iowa or Ohio State, but a potential money-loser for a mid-February dual vs. Purdue or Michigan State.

That calculation is no longer relevant, since ticket prices are now different for both facilities. And if we know anything about PSU, the BJC rental fee didn't go down.

Also to be clear: the "break-even" is not relative to the BJC rental fee. It's where BJC (ticket revenue - facility fee) >= Rec Hall ticket revenue.

Other factors not included in the math are parking and concessions.

Also, the bigger facility/bigger attendance would require more security. Not clear if that is included with the BJC rental fee.

In both cases, neither concessions nor parking would be going to the Athletic department - PSU Transportation Services oversees all parking and the 3rd party OVG handles all concessions (PSU Athletics gets a negotiated flat sum from OVG).

 

[Hey Blue]

I never knew that when I first bought my season tickets @ $6 in 2010 that it has evolved to this.

Still only $3 each in 2005. The same price they were ten years earlier when I first bought mine. So cheap, I kept renewing even if I could only make half the home duals.

 

[Anon1683312534]

If you held the tOSU dual at Rec Hall, fewer visitors could attend, and we’d be treated to Tan Tom’s whining. That’s priceless!

Yeah tan said rec. 6,000 plus seats wasn't enough but they build a place that seats 4 000 something seats

 

[Matter7172]

Yeah tan said rec. 6,000 plus seats wasn't enough but they build a place that seats 4 000 something seats

That's obviously different.