Have We Seen Enough OU and Enough Tx to Predict RRR?

Tollboothmgr

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We are fast approaching October and every loyal Sooner knows exactly what's coming up soon..... Halloween!! just kidding of course. the clash in the cotton bowl is a much bigger deal in this state. call it the red river rivalry, showdown or shoot-out or whatever it will be here in a little more than 2 weeks!
Let's start with the good guys. Coming into the season OU was highly ranked, led by one of the most well-respected coaches in the country, regardless of age or length of tenure. Coach Linicoln Riley's offensive expertise is even appreciated at the pro level. The addition of a new defensive coordinator in Alex Grinch could prove to be one of the two best changes in Norman for the '19 season (Transfer qb Jalen Hurts is the other in case you've been helping build latrines in Haiti)
OU has played 3 games and won 3 games by wide margins both on the road and at home.
OU has shown a potent offense again this year with multiple options at every skill position. Hurts leads most early Heisman polls because of his yardage as a both a passer and a runner.
The defense has shown visible improvements. Remember our goal here this year is to not necessarily be an asset but at least not be a LIABILITY.
OU counts one significant injury (pre-season defensive starter)
The Sooner squad is still highly ranked and passes the eye test thus far, looking fast, tough, aggressive and organized. They are guilty of some excessive penalty numbers but that's nit-picking what appears to be a solid choice for repeat big12 conference champ.\
now for the sh*tbirds from austin. Texas is back! that was the chant from returning qb sam ehlinger after he single-handedly drubbed Georgia in the sugar bowl last year. dont believe me? just ask him! he had heisman pub and skill players returning plus their own highly regarded coach in tom herman....the hype had them top ten ranked and even discussed as a sleeper play-off team.
so far texas has played 4 games and routed 2 opponents, narrowly defeated another at home and outright lost at home as well. Perhaps the main take from what we've seen is the injury bug has depleted their roster significantly! Otherwise, Ehlinger has played very well, and so has his favorite receiver Devin Duvarnay. They appear to be the main weapons at this point. On defense, texas had a very hard time stopping LSU's veteran qb but improved against the young OSU qb. But oh those injuries... the win over the pokes came at a high price because of several more players are knocked out. Sidelined for the OU game are 3-4 players including defensive star caden sterns. That could be a major factor in the future. Tx has dipped in the polls but barring a loss by either team both should be ranked in the top ten October 12th. OU runs away in the beginning, in the middle and at the end. 41-27.
 

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there is no predicting this game. OU has played like crap for several years now so I just want to see them perform to their ability.
 

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OU is still an unknown commodity having played only three weak teams. Texas has had a "gut check" vs LSU in a losing effort....but LSU showed it won't survive its schedule with Florida, Auburn, and at Alabama to deal with.
To make a long story short, I see another high scoring game, with two teams that can't play championship caliber defense. Texas has some defensive injuries, but it also has 3 weeks to make adjustments.And OU has not been tested defensively and may not be until its game with Texas.
OU needs to bring its "A" game on offense and have at least some meaningful, clutch defensive stops - unlike last October's game.
I see OU winning something like 41-31.
 

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I want to see another 63-14 type of game. We are due to give the horns another raping.
 

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I agree with that score Scottsdale...we should get out to a lead...then the Shorthorns try to chisel away. Will the “speed” defense generate some turnovers? That is the true X factor.
 

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I haven't seen anything to make me think we'll beat Texas. Yet.

You've seen 'em plenty. Hurts, Lamb, Haselwood, Brooks, Sermon, Rambo, Calcaterra, Morris...
Let's say worst case scenario is our defense is still a fraud, anyone can win in a shootOUt.
 

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You've seen 'em plenty. Hurts, Lamb, Haselwood, Brooks, Sermon, Rambo, Calcaterra, Morris...
Let's say worst case scenario is our defense is still a fraud, anyone can win in a shootOUt.

Really, I haven't. Not to say it's not there, but I still haven't seen Hurts make the kind of throws he'll need to make against better defenses. And the best part of our running game so far has been Hurts pulling it down and taking off. We haven't created a whole lot of creases for the guys who should be getting the bulk of the carries. I just can't get too excited, YET, about an offense that has only played against three of the worst defenses in college football.

Something else that concerns me is this: I've seen far too many plays where the pocket breaks down and the receivers just kind of stop. I think that's because they figure the QB is just going to take off. In the past few years, those guys kept working and our QBs kept their eyes down field looking for someone to get open.

But maybe they've been holding something back.
 

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As beat up as the Shorthorns secondary is, it should be a pretty simple offensive game plan. Give Hurts time and hit the talented offensive weapons. I can see the run game get stuffed some, but then again, I can see lots of big place plays and yards after catch/contact. Hope Coach Riley gives them both barrels, and does not let up. Half a hundred would be sweet on this “we’re back” gang.
 
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The Burnt Orange Bastards got beaten in Austin by the LSU true freshman QB. But that's a side issue.

Texas has had many injuries in their defensive backfield, but have a stout run defense that can get after the QB. Their offense has only three weapons - QB Ehlinger, WR Durvenay and RB Keontay Ingraham. Shut down one or more of those and texas is in a world of hurt.

OU's offense is better than their D. Hands down. Our defense has improved, but this will be a huge test to see if they're starting to turn a corner with Grinch's D. I think special teams are a toss up, maybe texas has a slight edge.

With that said, I'm throwing out a guess that OU will be a 7-9 point favorite going into the game and wins 42-28.
 

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The Burnt Orange Bastards got beaten in Austin by the LSU true freshman QB. But that's a side issue.

Texas has had many injuries in their defensive backfield, but have a stout run defense that can get after the QB. Their offense has only three weapons - QB Ehlinger, WR Durvenay and RB Keontay Ingraham. Shut down one or more of those and texas is in a world of hurt.

OU's offense is better than their D. Hands down. Our defense has improved, but this will be a huge test to see if they're starting to turn a corner with Grinch's D. I think special teams are a toss up, maybe texas has a slight edge.

With that said, I'm throwing out a guess that OU will be a 7-9 point favorite going into the game and wins 42-28.
FWIW, LSU’s QB (Burrow) is a Senior grad transfer from Ohio State.
 

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I see a Texas team that has played well....or certainly well enough to give OU an epic struggle again.
Also, OU looks to enter the Texas game unbeaten, but very unproven in terms of facing teams of equal or better talent. Texas has had two gut checks with LSU and OSU, both in Austin, which may serve them well going into October.
Whatever improvement there has been in OU's defense is still not known given the weak schedule played so far. There have been some nice plays made by Grinch's crew, but this has to carry over against the likes of Texas, Kansas State in Manhattan and OSU in Stillwater....and will have to withstand teams like Alabama and Clemson in the postseason. Right now, I don't believe OU could beat these two teams.
 

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I see a Texas team that has played well....or certainly well enough to give OU an epic struggle again.
Also, OU looks to enter the Texas game unbeaten, but very unproven in terms of facing teams of equal or better talent. Texas has had two gut checks with LSU and OSU, both in Austin, which may serve them well going into October.
Whatever improvement there has been in OU's defense is still not known given the weak schedule played so far. There have been some nice plays made by Grinch's crew, but this has to carry over against the likes of Texas, Kansas State in Manhattan and OSU in Stillwater....and will have to withstand teams like Alabama and Clemson in the postseason. Right now, I don't believe OU could beat these two teams.
You and veritas must go to the same barbershop! lol I hear what you're both saying and understand your cautious approach. unfortunately our early season sched did not end up providing us with the level of opposition it was supposed to. we should go into dallas undefeated with double digit victories over sub-par opponents. the freshmen who play significant minutes will have had some experience by october 12th, but NOTHING can prepare them for the spectacle that is the RRR. its true on both sides of course. that being said, the younger sooners will have to grow up during the game. after that day, i think you'll see the team has coalesced and manhattan and stillwater will not be as challenging as you fear.
 
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OUr competition wouldn't allow us to predict anything. The Horns' defensive injuries will hurt them. But this game has a history of not following form too often.
 

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Sooners now at 4-0 with a QB having Heisman numbers.....and this team still remains a work in process.
 

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We haven't been punched in the mouth yet - but that has first happened before in the RRR (under Strong of all coaches) and we didn't really right the ship. We won't truly know anything about this team until after 10/12.

As for the $64 Question - the D: you're often as good as your weak link, which IMO is a certain over-rated 5* out of that IMG Academy who seems to have ridden 5* press clippings to being the starting nickel over his obvious limitations (e.g., that nice Tech TD thrown to the corner of the end zone over him, but was negated by an illegal formation). I shudder to picture him covering the likes of Collin Johnson (much less any of Bama's WRs...and shouldn't the likes of Bama be what we are ultimately planning for?). At least please pull #44 from red zone situations where fades and jump balls in the end zone are more likely.

Don't see a double-digit win here. As mediocre as LSU's D has been this year does anyone really want to brag that ours is any better without having faced anyone yet? Ehlinger is as scrappy as McCoy - gonna be a dogfight.
 

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This has the makings of an epic RRR game.

Ehlinger is too good and too determined let us run over them like we did yesterday to TT.

But neither is their defense good enough to stop Hurts and company.

I think its going to be a shoot out, 38-31 or something similar, with OU making just enough plays on defense to deliver the win.
 

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Do not overlook the value of Hurts at QB in a game like this. He has been in the fire many, many times. His leadership and poise will be really critical.