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The Senate has been skewering the Wells Fargo CEO for their business practices the last week or so. The fraud in selling/passing ACA was much worse than anything they did or any corporate act since probably Enron. But since we have such a low bar for govt practices it is no big deal. Millennials got conned the worst.
 
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qwesley said:
The Senate has been skewering the Wells Fargo CEO for their business practices the last week or so. The fraud in selling/passing ACA was much worse than anything they did or any corporate act since probably Enron. But since we have such a low bar for govt practices it is no big deal. Millennials got conned the worst.
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Without the ACA, how would we pay for the medical care for the thousands of refugees that are here and the thousands that will be arriving every year?
 
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“So you’ve got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people have healthcare, and then the people who are out there busting it sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half,” “It’s the craziest thing in the world.”-- Bill Clinton on Obamacare 10/3/16

http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit...calls-obamacare-the-1475601274-htmlstory.html
 
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I think millenials still believe in the ****, tbh.

DSmith21 said:
“So you’ve got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people have healthcare, and then the people who are out there busting it sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half,” “It’s the craziest thing in the world.”-- Bill Clinton on Obamacare 10/3/16

http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit...calls-obamacare-the-1475601274-htmlstory.html
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I can't believe this made the news.
 
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^ He later tried to walk it back but its clear that he thinks its a deeply flawed system that punishes much of the middle class.
 
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DSmith21 said:
“So you’ve got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people have healthcare, and then the people who are out there busting it sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half,” “It’s the craziest thing in the world.”-- Bill Clinton on Obamacare 10/3/16

http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit...calls-obamacare-the-1475601274-htmlstory.html
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Setting up the argument for a single payer system. At least that's how I read it.
 
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By all means, let's expand a failing and soon-to-be-bankrupt program that is projected right now to be one of the biggest drivers of annual budget deficits and let's include everyone (Medicare). And, by the way, its sister program, Medicaid, in study after study, does not lead to better health outcomes. So, we're spending hundreds of billions of dollars that we cannot afford for a program that is proven ineffective.

Yep, that's about right for our government. At least we've got two qualified candidates who are sure to make things much, much worse. Christ, who can feel good about voting in November with these two sociopathic numbskulls our only choices?
 
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Most of ACA plans are ******** anyway. The deductibles are several thousand dollars. The only financial assistance they provide is in case of catastrophic medical problems like if your brain explodes or someone chainsaws your leg off.
 
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PTI (pti) said:
Why would insurance companies cut cost? There's no competition in most counties, losses are protected (in theory anyways), and you're required by law to buy what they're selling?

Great program.
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Inside track on this one. Losses not protected. Gains not protected either. A carrier with a certain relatively healthy population gave back 50% of premium to risk adjustment. 50%. Do you know ANY health insurance carrier with a 50% MLR? This very small carrier can't afford to play in that market. Just sayin' .The risk adjustment program in ACA is a Ponzi scheme. ACA is doomed.
 
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domino79 said:
In the end, we all die.
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Mashburned said:
I think millenials still believe in the ****, tbh.



I can't believe this made the news.
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These young people, 35 and younger, are a wasted generation if they fall for all this BS. First it was something for nothing plan of Bernie, and now Clinton wants their vote after saying they live in their parents basements. Remember, when you stand for nothing you fall for everything. What is more important to these people when you walk around all day with your head down looking down trying to find Pokeman.

Amazingly I Think owning the new I Phone is more important than their country to some of these people
 
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If it weren't for all those damn Millennials and their damn free healthcare. Sitting on the couch all fat playing video games. Friends are fat too. GD Millennials need to sprinkle their insulin on their extra-sugar frosted corn flakes, while all of us Gen X'er with a BMI under 29 have to pay for it. I'm effing pissed.
 
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By all means, blame young people for the terrible ****-show of a country we're inheriting. Things were humming right along until we started voting eight years ago.
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You're not being honest. Millenials elected Obama twice based on a) free **** and b) bring the troops home. And they'd do it again bc a) they think free healthcare worked and b) they think he brought the troops home.

But most importantly, generally speaking, they dgaf. About this country, about politics, and you can't blame them for the reason you listed - look at the crap they were taught, the politics they grew up in.

Bill fn Clinton was my introduction to politics.
 
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UKGrad93 said:
It should have said single payer system. I edited the post.
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I wasn't being a smart ***, was just curious what a single payer system is. Just trying to wrap my head around where this healthcare thing is going and I'm pretty lost to be honest.
 
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And the people it was supposed to help now have insurance on paper, but not in reality. While premiums are high, that's not even the real story. These people have such high deductibles that for their income level, they essentially have no insurance.

The ACA did nothing to improve health other than making the number of insured go up and those people still can't afford to go to the dr.
 
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MrHotDice said:
These young people, 35 and younger, are a wasted generation if they fall for all this BS. First it was something for nothing plan of Bernie, and now Clinton wants their vote after saying they live in their parents basements. Remember, when you stand for nothing you fall for everything. What is more important to these people when you walk around all day with your head down looking down trying to find Pokeman.

Amazingly I Think owning the new I Phone is more important than their country to some of these people
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