High School Sports go private/club

SMC34

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Just brainstorming but what if we pulled all Athletic funding from the public schools. All sports go private.. How could we do it and what is needed to do it?...
 

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Good luck getting the schools to allow you to use their facilities, equipment, uniforms, etc... Same with park districts of full contact football is not allowed by the state.
 

mc140

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Just brainstorming but what if we pulled all Athletic funding from the public schools. All sports go private.. How could we do it and what is needed to do it?...

There is no such thing as pulling athletic funding. Athletic funding comes from whatever the school district allocates their schools. If there were no sports that money would be spent somewhere else in the school district.
 
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SMC34

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There so many facilities that would rent to a club sport... And most places could afford to raise private funds. Football alone has at least 120k in stipends. So less funding for the districts... Less retire pay... We all save in the long run with full control without the public school systems involve... And this was an idea thread. Anything is possible with $$$
 

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Some areas would combined obviously. And CPS kids would prob have areas.. 2 South side teams and a west side team. 4 north side teams. Maybe more... Remember these offer all sports.. 1000’s of kids involved maybe more... The fundraising will come.. grants from local companies and pro sports teams...
 

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And what is the point, to go by their set of rules and not follow guidelines set by the governor during a pandemic? Stick it to the man?
 

SMC34

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I’m not getting political about this... This is a thread about ideas. Even if they are crazy...
 

greatgig13

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OK, no politics. Is Illinois high school sports so bad that funding needs to be pulled? I don’t understand.
 

SMC34

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We are not talking about that.. It would lead to politics and get flushed. This is just a “what if” thread on how it could or couldn’t work.. The motive behind it is obvious and won’t be discussed on ET per his orders...
 

mc140

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There so many facilities that would rent to a club sport... And most places could afford to raise private funds. Football alone has at least 120k in stipends. So less funding for the districts... Less retire pay... We all save in the long run with full control without the public school systems involve... And this was an idea thread. Anything is possible with $$$

You really do not understand how school funding works.
 

SMC34

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It’s a very real possibility in the future... not just in this State.. But was just a hypothetical situation for people to think outside of the box on.. For example how would the Naperville area form up... How would the Northern suburbs form up.. The Gurnee football club sponsored by 6 flags... Nevermind... lol
 
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Most areas could just build their own... Other districts wouldn’t have a choice.. They need the income and would rent to those clubs..

Park districts would need to be onboard for this to work. In many towns, they actually control many of the fields around schools, not the schools themselves. In Glenview for instance, they will not allow any private clubs to rent town facilities UNLESS the park district or school district does not offer a program within the sport/gender/age level.
 

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It’s a very real possibility in the future... not just in this State.. But was just a hypothetical situation for people to think outside of the box on.. For example how would the Naperville area form up... How would the Northern suburbs form up.. The Gurnee football club sponsored by 6 flags... Nevermind... lol

Clearly the effects of legalized pot in Illinois is taking hold.
 
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I would believe that the field issue could be worked out, but the insurance liability issue would be the tough part, maybe?
 

SMC34

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For certain areas... Some places would raise funds for private facilities.. How does Boom work? My buddy spends 60k on his girls private volleyball and soccer clubs.. So I would assume Football clubs would follow that model.. And no I’m not on the weed. Just see certain indicators pointing towards privatized amateur sports..
 

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A big thing for some volleyball and soccer clubs is that they have their own facilities. Like Sports Performance, one of the nation's top volleyball clubs, has its own facility, the Great Lakes Center. They rent it out and use it for other stuff than SPVB, but that's its primary use. I'm sure that's not the case for every club, but for a bunch it is.

So football clubs would probably need to build their own facilities?
 

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For certain areas... Some places would raise funds for private facilities.. How does Boom work? My buddy spends 60k on his girls private volleyball and soccer clubs.. So I would assume Football clubs would follow that model.. And no I’m not on the weed. Just see certain indicators pointing towards privatized amateur sports..

60K? How many girls does he have?
 
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Lets be realistic. If school districts dropped sports, existing systems would adapt to fill the void. Football, in particular, would likely have the existing youth leagues add a high school sophomore and varsity level. For many downstate programs, where the youth league, middle school and high school conferences match up, there would not be much of a change.

Where would they play? Where does the youth league play? Likely that will not change. However, if the school district has completely dropped all sports, it is likely that it will lease its now way overdeveloped PE facilities to the park district or youth league for use. Since the taxpayers of the communities paid for those bleachers, lights, tracks and playing surfaces, and gyms, it would be logical that they would lease those facilities to the community teams. Downstate, it is unlikely to find many high school sized baseball diamonds other than the diamond actually used by the high school in a community - and those were probably developed by some long-standing semi-pro team (Buckley Dutchmasters, anyone?).

Big change? I don't know how big of a crowd that high school level sports without the school connection would draw. If you went from the school team to a community team, I figure the draw is less than a quarter of the school team. Have you ever watched a Colt / American Legion / Babe Ruth level baseball game? Handful of parents, family and girlfriends watching...More cars in the lot than fans...since each kid is driving himself to the game.
 

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Remind me again why we are talking about this. I don’t think high schools are giving up football or any sports for that matter.
 

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Lets be realistic. If school districts dropped sports, existing systems would adapt to fill the void. Football, in particular, would likely have the existing youth leagues add a high school sophomore and varsity level. For many downstate programs, where the youth league, middle school and high school conferences match up, there would not be much of a change.

Where would they play? Where does the youth league play? Likely that will not change. However, if the school district has completely dropped all sports, it is likely that it will lease its now way overdeveloped PE facilities to the park district or youth league for use. Since the taxpayers of the communities paid for those bleachers, lights, tracks and playing surfaces, and gyms, it would be logical that they would lease those facilities to the community teams. Downstate, it is unlikely to find many high school sized baseball diamonds other than the diamond actually used by the high school in a community - and those were probably developed by some long-standing semi-pro team (Buckley Dutchmasters, anyone?).

Big change? I don't know how big of a crowd that high school level sports without the school connection would draw. If you went from the school team to a community team, I figure the draw is less than a quarter of the school team. Have you ever watched a Colt / American Legion / Babe Ruth level baseball game? Handful of parents, family and girlfriends watching...More cars in the lot than fans...since each kid is driving himself to the game.
Like the Buckley Dutchmasters reference.. My oldest has played there a few times. He played for the Legendary travel baseball Coach Barry Krumwiede of the Batavia Bandits. I think he grew up in Buckley..
 
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