by the way Jeff Goodman called BS on the tweet/NIL info and said its not close to true
Highest paid basketball players.
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He also was the one that reported 22 mil as UK's spending. I would bet this graphic is closer to the truth than the 22 mil.
I will say this, you were on this early saying no where close to 22M.
I think he took what little information Pope gave him and came to a conclusion that was wrong. I don't doubt that Pope gave him some nuggets about NIL but if you think Pope told him a final figure and it was 22 million, you are insane. No coach will tell any of their friends that information especially someone in the media. They share info that they want to get out and NIL spending is something that they want to keep private.
jack and others have said Pope put that info out himself
There’s no such thing as multi year deals.
And this is not pay for play.
So who’s to say who’s deserving?
It’s endorsements. Does the person writing the check think they got value? If they did they will write more checks. If they they didn’t, they won’t.
No they didn’t. They said those are the numbers they are hearing but not that Pope was saying it directly. Also, the number listed in the graphic for Dybantsa were what was reported by Goodman and others during his recruitment but now those numbers are wrong? Believe whatever you want but the graphic is much closer to reality than that 22 mil figure.
Yeah, I think a lot of folks here are quick to defend the $22M number, which has always been nonsense, because they think thats somehow making an excuse for Pope when its not. Even if the budget were $14M, that still constitutes the largest NIl in CBB, and our roster is nowhere near the most talented and thats 100% on Pope
“If the graphic is true”
The graphic made by “Greatest Highlights” with no sources anonymous or otherwise.
”no way” is not an argument.
This shows the 22 million NIL for Kentucky was total BS like I have been saying all along. It was a narrative the media started and everyone ran with.
lol. Yes there are. I don’t know if UK has any players with them but that general statement is false.
If those are the numbers, then there's really no possible way Kentucky had this supposed $22mil roster. For that to be true, Kentucky would have had to have had players 11 through 20 on this list lol. Like, Trent Noah would have been the 18th highest paid player in college haha.
This is factually incorrect. There is absolutely nothing that prevents multi-year NIL deals. They are much riskier and contain tons of exit clauses for both sides, but certainly exist. And even beyond just NIL, the House v. NCAA ruling for rev share allows schools to promise multi year rev share deals as well. NILGO contains a specific section for multi-year deals to be reported. They certainly exist, but roughly 10% of players across multiple sports I'd say utilize them.
In view of all the available data I find that easier to believe than the opposite, as explained ad infinitum with many published sources. You seem to have no real argument other than people who don’t see it your way are stupid because they don’t agree with you. This while you keep basing your argument one way or another on the fact you accepted arbitrary unsourced numbers from outlets like Greatest Highlights
. We get it. At this point it would be almost impossible to find anyone on Rafters who doesn’t know what you think on this issue. We’ve heard all your arguments for months and months, found them inadequate, and most of us choose to disagree, for the most part quite politely. Do you have any potential time frame for when you might be done calling us stupid?
This is silly and disrespectful and makes me sad I gave you such a friendly, thorough, careful answer and a buddy like. Start explaining why you’re taking “Greatest Highlights“ as gospel truth.
When you quit acting stupid maybe?In view of all the available data I find that easier to believe than the opposite, as explained ad infinitum with many published sources. You seem to have no real argument other than people who don’t see it your way are stupid because they don’t agree with you. This while you keep basing your argument one way or another on the fact you accepted arbitrary unsourced numbers from outlets like Greatest Highlights
When I originally talked about the $22M, I didnt say people were stupid for believing it, but that, of course, resulted in me being called a Pope Pumper, Slurper and ball washer. Now, when we see one of multiple reports saying the 10th highest athlete was $1.7M, that we had one kid on the list at $2M and no one else, which means that the other $20M had to be divided out at a max of $1.6M per kid....and people STILL cling to the $22M number LMAO? I mean, if the weatherman says its gonna be 18 degrees and an ice storm and you show up in a tank top and shorts, what would you call it? After JQ if we gave TEN other kids that max of $1.6M for ALL of them, thats $16M, which along with JQ's $2M gets us to $18M. So THEN we spent $4M on the numbers 12-15? Did Tow, Horn and Potter all get a million? Stop it man lol.
Pope wanted some retention. Brought in a bunch of guys with potential. I know they specifically said Lowe was on a two year deal. A bunch of our guys probably were. If you were retained, you got a raise next year. I think Goodman added both years together on all our 2 year deals and came up with that number.
Unfortunately, no one but Moreno, played above expectations. Lowe is already reported out. The second year wasn’t guaranteed unless you were brought back.
I say it every time these lists come up that they’re worthless, but since this has once again turned into using this to “prove” that we couldn’t have possibly spent $22 million, it’s worth repeating. This is just someone’s (in this case unsourced at that) estimate of what these guys would be worth in endorsements, which isn’t always related to how much a booster is willing to pay them to play for their favorite team.
For a quick and obvious example, it was reported by legitimate sources that Dybansta got $7 million to sign with BYU, which is approaching double what this list says. If he got that much more, I’d be willing to bet that a lot of other guys around the country including some of ours actually received a considerable amount more than is claimed by “Greatest Highlights”.
For a quick and obvious example, it was reported by legitimate sources that Dybansta got $7 million to sign with BYU, which is approaching double what this list says. If he got that much more, I’d be willing to bet that a lot of other guys around the country including some of ours actually received a considerable amount more than is claimed by “Greatest Highlights”.
AJ's deal, in multiple articles, say it was estimated that BYU paid approximately $4 million and some change of that $7 million dollar figure. The other $2 million and change was supplemented mostly by Nike and Red Bull. So in part it is correct that Dybantsa's deal was near $7 million (and correctly reported by most reputable sites), but BYU and their collective did not pay the entire $7 million for him. Front Line Sports I believe it was, had a pretty good, fact check verified, article out there that discusses this deal. Some lazy reporters just report "AJ got $7 million to play for BYU" which is correct, but also missing information when people take the leap and assume BYU paid all of that $7 million.
Not defending it, only disputing your claim with numbers that were released and never refuted by Mark Pope. Whatever the actual number is, it was top 3 in college basketball.
Reread the article that started the $22 million figure. All it says that someone reported that UK paid that much. It wasn't anyone from UK or the paper would have started that. It wasn't even a person tied to UK's NIL or the paper would have said that also. The paper also says that it was not confirmed either so just some Tom, Dick and Harry could have said it and the paper ran with it.
Some kind of architecture like that definitely makes sense as for where that high number came from if true.
The same thing recopied over and over by tiny nameless outlets is proof to you when it supports to conclusion. But even more and much larger outlets saying what you're disputing (and some of those at least claiming they have their own unique sources, just anonymous, and not all copying each other) is something only gullible people believe.
Learn to think before you call other people stupid.
I have no clue what you are even trying to say there. What was silly and disrespectful to you in my post? Sensitive much,
your unprovoked condescension says all we need to know about how sensitive baby isWe paid Aberdeen 2.1 million. That has seem to be accepted as well as the 22 million number. If UK didn’t spend 22 mil why didn’t the university deny it? Pope why didn’t he deny? If anything is incorrect it’s boogie flans returning to college to make half of what he would in the nba.
Lol..gotcha . You have nothing so you attempt to deflect . Solid argument
Because Universitys dont respond to internet speculation on social media..... This isn't hard to understand, in this day and age things get out out there and "journalists" don't fact check at all and repost it or write an article and people blindly believe it. It's created the most gullible generation yet, brainwashed/mindless society.
Your thinking is literally stupid. And you've been using that stupid thinking, characterized by head-burying, internal attribution fallacy, gullibility, and other macro-scale failures of logic to justify you calling lots of people stupid to their faces for the only crime of disagreeing with you, also calling most of a whole state stupid.
I'm calling your thinking stupid because you've been calling me stupid for a long time completely unprovoked so it's time for me to stand up for myself and some others you've been treating exactly the same way. I'm not telling you not to stand up to yourself to specific people who are getting in your face. You started this particular exchange by getting in my face uninvited when all I'd done is post some math and calling me stupid. As usual.
Your urge to try to turn that around on me and act like I'm doing the same thing you're doing only worse is just intellectual laziness. Related I'm sure to the same underlying lazy mental habits that are keeping you from thinking clearly about all this to begin with.
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Lol..gotcha . You have nothing so you attempt to deflect . Solid argument
(I have a ton. I spelled it all out carefully in a friendly manner—not even trying to convince you, just showing where my thinking came from and how it was supported logically as a suspicion without any of us knowing the whole truth, that I was okay with you disagreeing with—and you were too stupid to respond directly to any of it. Too stupid to even have any common decency and just agree to disagree with me. Wish I'd known what kind of mind I was dealing with before wasting my time.)
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Lol...now the last desperation of name calling. You have not been friendly. You have your opinion. I gave mine. For some reason my opinion made you angry. I asked you how I was being disrespectful and you resort to name calling. I don't even know what you are trying to argue about because your first reply didn't even refer to anything in my post . Just hit ignore. It will help you with your anger issues.
(I have a ton. I spelled it all out carefully in a friendly manner—not even trying to convince you, just showing where my thinking came from and how it was supported logically as a suspicion without any of us knowing the whole truth, that I was okay with you disagreeing with—and you were too stupid to respond directly to any of it. Too stupid to even have any common decency and just agree to disagree with me. Wish I'd known what kind of mind I was dealing with before wasting my time.)
Such a mental midget...whines and cries about being called stupid...then proceeds to call me stupid twice lol. Go away troll
2 part Forrest Gump and a heaping teaspoon on Bobby Hurley = lol mossip