Highlights of Hillary's speech yesterday exposing Trump....

rog1187

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Walter Brennaneer

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LOL both candidates have the highest disapproval ratings of any two candidates that have run for the office of President...keep kidding yourself that Hillary is all that and a bag of chips.

It's not about Hillary with doc, it's about Bill. He has always wanted to get into Bill's underwear.
 

bamaEER

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not that it will matter to the brainwashed wingnuts. They'd vote for Charles Manson if he had an R beside his name. Very effective speech though....
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/03/us/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump.html
Yea she was dead on about Trump. His proposed ideas are horrible and are based on rants. As I read yesterday, finding holes in Trump's shallow plans for this country is like ridiculing the engineering skills of a 4-year old's sand castle. His numbers don't add up and he's clueless on laws and policy. In the health world, there's a saying that frames the mindset needed with a patient...'do no harm'. His political trajectory has us creating lots of harm.

Having said that, I don't know if I can vote for her. My political views align more closely with her, but I just don't know if I can vote for her. I'll have to see how the third party situation pans out.
 

old buzzard

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Hillary makes me want to puke. It's a sad state of affairs when a person with possible indictment on criminal charges is the leading Democratic candidate.The more she talks and the more of her shady past comes to light, the more likely it is that Trump will win in November. Her speeches have no "highlights". Likewise it's a sad state of affairs when people are so fed up with Republican politicians that someone like Donald Trump is the best they can offer to run against her. If Hillary wins she will be dealing with a Republican controlled Congress that won't be cooperative with continuing what Obama has started, and if Trump wins he will have no support from either side of the aisle since he's not one of their "good ole boys". Maybe it's best when Government is gridlocked, at least when it is they can't screw things up more than they already have. Too bad for all of us that there are no politicians worthy of holding the office of President.
 

rog1187

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That's ********. We just don't vote for them because we'd rather hear populist garbage.
We are forked no matter who wins this one...neither one is a uniter IMO and that is what this country needs.
 

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That's ********. We just don't vote for them because we'd rather hear populist garbage.
Bingo. Six months ago, the GOP had several worthy candidates in the mix. Voters royally screwed that up, opting for rants rather than substance.
 

bamaEER

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And better for the country for the long and short term.
Of course, who knows what Trump would REALLY do as president. So much of what he says he backtracks on later. And much of the rest is essentially ridiculous and and may be impossible. He may not be able to do anything at all, which may actually make him out to be a better president.
 

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Agreed, but I'll take 4 years of Hildabeast over Trump. Way, way better for the GOP long term.

4 years of Hillary will all but lock 4 more years of a GOP House and Senate, so she wouldn't be able to ram through legislation early on like Obama did. However I trust her zero when it comes to handling some major foreign policy issues, so that would worry me.

4 years of Trump could see the House, but more likely the Senate, swing back to the Dems, and he wouldn't be able to ram through any legislation either. I also don't trust him when it comes down to handling some major foreign policy issues, though I do think he'll be a better negotiator with some nations than Hillary would be.

Either way... it's probably going to suck.
 

WVUCOOPER

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4 years of Hillary will all but lock 4 more years of a GOP House and Senate, so she wouldn't be able to ram through legislation early on like Obama did. However I trust her zero when it comes to handling some major foreign policy issues, so that would worry me.

4 years of Trump could see the House, but more likely the Senate, swing back to the Dems, and he wouldn't be able to ram through any legislation either. I also don't trust him when it comes down to handling some major foreign policy issues, though I do think he'll be a better negotiator with some nations than Hillary would be.

Either way... it's probably going to suck.
Just one disagreement...Clinton is a former SOS, Senator and first lady - I see no way in hell pissbaby Trump would be a better negotiator than Clinton on trade. In fact, I think that's Clinton's best attribute.
 

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Just one disagreement...Clinton is a former SOS, Senator and first lady - I see no way in hell pissbaby Trump would be a better negotiator than Clinton on trade. In fact, I think that's Clinton's best attribute.
Absolutely. This is her strongest area.
 

old buzzard

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Just one disagreement...Clinton is a former SOS, Senator and first lady - I see no way in hell pissbaby Trump would be a better negotiator than Clinton on trade. In fact, I think that's Clinton's best attribute.

I disagree........first being a former first lady is insignificant. Mary Todd Lincoln was a former first lady too and later was institutionalized in an asylum for the insane. Hillary's actions while she was SOS are still being investigated and may eventually lead to her being indicted, and her time as a Senator she had one of the highest percentages of missed roll call votes (9.5%) among Senators serving at the same time. Trump may not have a "statesman" back ground, but he damned sure knows how to negotiate......maybe the only thing he has going for him and maybe the reason so many people are supporting him.
 

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Just one disagreement...Clinton is a former SOS, Senator and first lady - I see no way in hell pissbaby Trump would be a better negotiator than Clinton on trade. In fact, I think that's Clinton's best attribute.

Clinton can't always deliver something in return for donations to the Foundation.
 

EEResistable

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I think the stroke she suffered has destroyed her mental capacity. She can read a teleprompter but can't think for herself. She's a figurehead at this point.
 

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I'll take the unknown over a lying, crooked, corrupt failure like the Hildabeast. She will be in jail before the election.
 

bamaEER

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This is the best two people out of 300 million?

Shew
GOP did have some decent candidates early on, but the GOP voters totally **** the bed in the end. All the good dems sat this one out thinking Hillary was unbeatable.
 

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Just one disagreement...Clinton is a former SOS, Senator and first lady - I see no way in hell pissbaby Trump would be a better negotiator than Clinton on trade. In fact, I think that's Clinton's best attribute.

You really need to lay off the juice, it is having a major effect on your memory. Hillary and Bill would have the Lincoln bedroom totally booked up and her election would guarantee NAFTA II. Hillary is good at two things, lying and raking in money from all her special interests.
 

Mntneer

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Just one disagreement...Clinton is a former SOS, Senator and first lady - I see no way in hell pissbaby Trump would be a better negotiator than Clinton on trade. In fact, I think that's Clinton's best attribute.

Trump has had to have certainly dealt with foreign entities numerous times over the course of his business career. With the number of properties he has overseas it's not like he's never had to negotiate with foreign governments.

Clinton on the other hand has certainly dealt with foreign governments since her time as SOS, but I wouldn't call that track record outstanding.