Hmm. Aaron Bradshaw
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Yeah, my point really isn't about Bradshaw at all, it's about what hapoens to programs at the end of Calipari's rein.
Bound to be better than he has shown so far but my point, which was part serious at least, is that only good players can point shave or throw games. Bradshaw shooting poorly and turning the ball over is baked into the line. Now he could help beat the line if he could play good when he wanted but having watched him an entire year I just don't think he has any feel for the game or much skill, just a tall guy that can run and jump.
I am being serious when I say that Bradshaw is not a good enough player to throw games or point shave. When he is having one of his poor games he will go to the bench. This point shaving allegation will turn out to not be true. I can't even figure out why a gambler or fixer would even approach a bad player for this purpose.
I’m glad the guy is gone, but it’s entirely for his inability to win and nothing else. I still don’t believe he has any responsibility in the Camby and Rose situations, and I won’t change tune on that just to heap more **** on the dude. He’s sucked as a coach for the last 4 years and was never able to turn the corner back to his best years at UK. Thats enough to want him gone without needing to change how I viewed those situations.
Yep, I defended him over the Camby and Rose situations before he became UK's coach. I was happy when Cal got hired and now I'm even happier he's gone but I'll never believe he is a devil; he's just not a great coach.
But you’re assuming Kentucky is gonna get in trouble. We barely know anything about the situation.
LoL. I read TWO posts and he either point shaved, sped or likes men. The intermet really is a cess pool when you can hide in anonymity. I won’t read any more.
Ok, I'll read one more post and this is the one. I'm good now. Poor guy, we dodged a bullet !
No team comes out and says that for an injury. Now, it could be academic probation, but again, I've never seen a university say that quite like that.
I'm not saying Cal knew anything, but when you swim in the waters he swims in, **** happens. He puts the players over the program, he puts already entitled players on a pedestal and that can get out of control and it did at UMass and Memphis.
Now, I defended Cal for years on both situations, because it is true, he didn't do anything wrong, but in both situations, he should have known.
No, no, no, I'm certainly not assuming UK is getting in trouble. But if it did happen, it would be the third time. That's a bad reputation to have.
But nothing is coming for UK, this is an AB isdue.
Can’t keep an eye on these guys 24/7. Neither situations happened on campus.
Those two situations are so different I am not going to treat them as a duo so right not I'll just address the Camby situation. That was a player doing something behind the coach and university's back and the coach and school were the victims in that particular situation. There was no way Cal or UMASS could have known in advance about that situation and they could not have stopped it and even if it had never came to light they gained nothing from Camby taking that agent's money(he was playing his last year at UMASS; it's not like cheating to get a player). The NCAA has said that and Camby has apologized to Cal and UMASS. If Camby can admit it then everybody should be able to admit the truth about that one. You can lump the UMASS thing with any other thing and try to claim a pattern but it's an imaginary pattern. I did not like Cal's coaching but he was here a long time and he did not commit NCAA violations and it doesn't appear that he did before he got here either.
I never got a bad vibe from Bradshaw. Seems like a good kid. However, WCS in 2015 during the Wisconsin game made me feel uneasy. All of a sudden (it seemed like) he seemed to be bad at almost every aspect of his game. I don't just feel that way now, because of this pt shaving talk. I have thought that since that night. Something was off.
I agree with you. Our compliance dept is top notch. They have to be, because, as we all know, if ANYTHING remotely associated with KY were to come up, everyone across the nation would be jumping on it. Even a speeding or parking ticket would probably make the national news. Even if it was just a rumor. Normally, it's innocent until proven guilty, but with Kentucky, most if the time I believe it's guilty until proven innocent.
Even if Cal was "agreeable" to something sneaky, so to speak, I truly believe that our compliance dept would not let it happen, if possible. With it being Kentucky, they have to be on top of EVERYTHING!
With Cal being the way he is, it wouldn't surprise me at all (about the dumb lineups and throwing the game). But then again, he's always doing stupid stuff like that.
Indeed you are. There is a general forum here for non-basketball-related nonsense.
I think that poster was making a joke about Aaron Bradshaw’s reason for suspension, which is on topic, right? The topic is about a former Wildcat. Btw he plays for Ohio State not Arkansas so your message confuses for numerous reasons.
So does that mean we'd have to vacate our NCAA tournament losses to St Peters and Oakland?
I'm okay with that.
Its someone's time of the month
By the way, back when throwing games and point shaving did happen college players didn't get paid at all and coaches got paid crap and even pro players didn't make big bucks. Now there is just a lot more money to be made by winning.
Yeah but our players got paid. Rupp was paying some of our guys 50 and 60 per game, which was decent money back then
But my point still stands; players and coaches were not being paid comparable to today so there was a lot more temptation to do dishonest things for money then.
So, he plays football at Georgia now?
I am so glad we have a new coach and a completely new team with nobody back from last year. If he was point shaving last year, I don’t see it coming back to bite UK.
what I don't understand about point shaving is - its an indictment on the character of the player, not the program.
No coach or program would condone point shaving and all would be completely ignorant of it happening. It only harms the program, so why penalize the program or the coach if it happens? Ban the player. End of story
No coach or program would condone point shaving and all would be completely ignorant of it happening. It only harms the program, so why penalize the program or the coach if it happens? Ban the player. End of story
It’s funny, UK actually had a player “point shaving” a few seasons ago but it wasn’t AB! AB doesn’t play enough, or play the right position to point shave, besides the officiating is there to prevent that!
I love watching fake UK fans grasp at anything, ANYTHING, at all that could come back to potentially harm UK
Well folks, keep dreaming, because Coach Pope is about to go on a run that’s going to break your pathetic little hearts
I love watching fake UK fans grasp at anything, ANYTHING, at all that could come back to potentially harm UK
Well folks, keep dreaming, because Coach Pope is about to go on a run that’s going to break your pathetic little hearts
Another note on “point shaving”, if you pay attention AT ALL during game play, it’s quite easy to spot someone who is point shaving, that’s why it rarely happens anymore from players.
Now with the Refs, they point shave (for the sports betting industry) all the time, and fans just call them blind, incompetent, or hate the coach or particular university, to make excuses for blatant cheating from the officials, that they don’t want to admit is happening!
Now with the Refs, they point shave (for the sports betting industry) all the time, and fans just call them blind, incompetent, or hate the coach or particular university, to make excuses for blatant cheating from the officials, that they don’t want to admit is happening!
Since we are going to assume that we know what is going on, let's consider this. Maybe the real reason Cal left Kentucky is one of his buddies informed him about this investigation. The story that I read stated that another player has already been released from the program he played for because of point shaving. The point shaving scandal involves other players whose names will soon be released, and the players under investigation have a Delaware, New Jersey, or Pennsylvania connection. This investigation is just really getting started and it may result in the total ban of college sports betting.