Holbrook vs Kingston

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In 5 seasons, Holbrook put up a .654 overall win percentage, .547 in the SEC. Through 6 full seasons and the covid year, Kingston was .586 overall, .464 in the SEC.

Under Holbrook, we won the east once and finished second twice. Under Kingston, we've never finished higher than 3rd and have finished 5th 3x.

Both took us the NCAAT 3x, making two supers. I assume Kingston will make it 4 NCAAT this year.

If you're Tanner, what justification would you give for retaining Kingston?
 
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In 5 seasons, Holbrook put up a .654 overall win percentage, .547 in the SEC. Through 6 full seasons and the covid year, Kingston was .586 overall, .464 in the SEC.

Under Holbrook, we won the east once and finished second twice. Under Kingston, we've never finished higher than 3rd and have finished 5th 3x.

Both took us the NCAAT 3x, making two supers. I assume Kingston will make it 4 NCAAT this year.

If you're Tanner, what justification would you give for retaining Kingston?
Holbrook wasn't fired because of on field performance (also technically he resigned).
 

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In 5 seasons, Holbrook put up a .654 overall win percentage, .547 in the SEC. Through 6 full seasons and the covid year, Kingston was .586 overall, .464 in the SEC.

Under Holbrook, we won the east once and finished second twice. Under Kingston, we've never finished higher than 3rd and have finished 5th 3x.

Both took us the NCAAT 3x, making two supers. I assume Kingston will make it 4 NCAAT this year.

If you're Tanner, what justification would you give for retaining Kingston?
The justification is easy...he's made the tournament 4 times and advanced to (at least) 2 Super Regionals.

The flip side though is Kingston's overall resume just shouldn't be good enough for South Carolina baseball. He's never had back-to-back winning conference records. He's not built a program where you're confident the team is going to compete for championships.

Kingston doesn't seem like a bad guy, nor are his results here abysmal. Ultimately, he just hasn't been good enough (in my opinion).
 

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lol…uh huh
Do you not remember the Buscher brouhaha that caused Buscher to quit mid-season? He pretty much had lost the clubhouse after that.

Also, Holbrook was having negotiations with the CoC AD about the not yet open HC job. And they did so without notifying USC's AD. The latter was the subject of a lawsuit by the former CoC baseball coach and is a matter of public record. Tanner allowed him to resign rather than firing him for cause.
 

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The justification is easy...he's made the tournament 4 times and advanced to (at least) 2 Super Regionals.

The flip side though is Kingston's overall resume just shouldn't be good enough for South Carolina baseball. He's never had back-to-back winning conference records. He's not built a program where you're confident the team is going to compete for championships.

Kingston doesn't seem like a bad guy, nor are his results here abysmal. Ultimately, he just hasn't been good enough (in my opinion).
I almost choked on what I was drinking when I heard him talk about how consistent they have been in an interview this morning.
 
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If that’s not an indictment on the state of the program, I don’t know what is. It’s a good thing baseball is irrelevant.
SR is equivalent to making the Sweet Sixteen in basketball or the expanded college football playoff. Not an indictment at all.
 
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