Hollow MNC
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The Amateur vs Professional distinction matters massively within the Legal Sytem, Laws that apply and Court System - not just a little bit, but massively. If you think the Universities are maintaining this farce of a sham because "it doesn't matter", you aren't putting a lot of thought into the topic. This entire sham has spun entirely out of control and heading for a crash landing both financially and within the courts for the Universities.
You're an adult. Start to act like one.
I don't like it either, but Indiana played by the same rules everyone else had and figured out how to do it the best. So congratulations to them on that. I still think it's more embarrassing for teams/schools that supposedly have way more resources. To me, it looks like all the elite programs somehow squandered their money badly and Indiana spent it correctly.
There's no official national championship for NCAA 1-A football. It's still mythical. I mean there's a thing called "College Football Playoff" but that's not an official NCAA run event and is just a name for the series of games.
Correct. Everything in the U.S. eventually moves to the money. Indiana was probably the first to see the opportunity (the portal) and jumped on it. The real culprit is the obsession with $ and winning at any cost. Tickets for that game were supposedly averaging close to 5K. I did not see an empty seat. Billionaires proudly contribute while, undoubtedly, there are very bright motivated students who can't afford college because they can't also catch a football. This is merely a result of America 2026.
He can’t… he is mentally ill!
Indiana had a total of three 4-star transfers in their 2024-2025 classes. It's amazing what you can do with a team when you recruit the right players to fit your system, develop those players, instill discipline and put the best guys on the field. At PSU, we saw what happened when our former "players coach" doled out financial participation trophies to backups and walk-ons, recruited the wrong QBs to fit the system, and otherwise blamed coordinators and administrators for abysmal performance.
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There was a playoff and a team won on the field. It's not mythical because there's no argument about who the champion is, as opposed to polls where everyone gets to have an opinion and mythologize the champion. But thanks for schooling me about the lack of an official NCAA championship and a thing called "College Football Playoff". I never knew about those things.
All that being said. That was a heck of a game! I enjoyed watching every minute. I think the NCAA got this one right.
Another question is the PSU wrestling team a bunch of mercenaries as well? I think there will be a different opinion because they are our guys.
There was a playoff and a team won on the field. It's not mythical because there's no argument about who the champion is, as opposed to polls where everyone gets to have an opinion and mythologize the champion. But thanks for schooling me about the lack of an official NCAA championship and a thing called "College Football Playoff". I never knew about those things.
There was a series of games called "College Football Playoff" and a team that won that. There is no NCAA national championship though - unlike every other NCAA sport including football at the 1-AA level.
So, "Mythical National Championship" is still technically correct as there is nothing official.
What was funny was Herby keep saying Becker was about the only players that were on the roster before Cignetti got there and is still around - it's always entertaining to have them list all the schools the current player played for before they came to their current school. Just the way it is now with NIL and the Portal and PSU better be ready for it - wonder which also ran Team like IU was with a rich Alumnus like Cuban will fund a "surprise" turn around.
Agree with that, but it's impossible to know whether Indiana was operating with less in terms of private donations. Mendoza was supposedly being paid upwards of $4.5 million this year.
Del State is 8k per. Not a crazy number. Anyone can go there. (New football coach bringing heat too)
To be fair...those numbers aren't accurate. It's all speculation. Indiana built a team via the portal with Cuban's money. Not sure how we can debate that.
All that said...almost everyone is buying a title. Kudos to Indiana for spending money wisely.
Lol that's dont what he said. He graduated 1 years ago and wasn't enrolled in the spring...like countless others. He took 3 graduate level classes in the fall which is 1 more than required by NCAA rules.
That is not a student athlete. That is a professional playing for a team sponsored by a college
They wouldn’t be the people they were in the 80’s in today’s environment. Nor would Joe for that matter.
JFC. It's hard to take it seriously when someone starts arguing technicalities, which don't even exist here.
16 and 0 beating the best in their conference and the best others had to offer. I mean GEEZ.
That might not be a bad thing. I dont know why were pretending the players having control of their education and careers is a bad thing. Let's not pretend everyone who played under Joe was someone that should have been in college. Tons of them had useless majors as well.
If you are a student who works in the School library and gets paid by the school, that does not make you less of a student. Same for the football players, they just get paid a lot more because their services are more valuable. What makes someone a student is whether he or she attends classes, studies and gets a degree. The foregoing is up to the student / library employee / football player regardless of whether they are getting paid by the college.
I believe we understand what has and continues to transpire with NCAA Division 1 football and we continue to watch. I have not yet arrived at the point where I will stop watching. What I don't understand is why you continue to follow PSU and the sport while seemingly having disdain for what it has become?
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No. The PSU wrestling team is not a bunch of mercenaries. Mesenbrink and Welsh are 2 guys that were with other schools, but Mitchell never wrestled attached for Cal Baptist and Rocco was asked to redshirt at OSU last year. Both said that they wanted to come to PSU because it is the best room in the world. Neither were guaranteed a starting role and money played little to no part.
That's a little bit different than 70-80% of a football roster being made up of transfers...most of whom were looking for a paycheck.
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you are correct from a legal standpoint. However, I was replying to the guy who replied to you....He was talking more about the emotional standpoint about supporting CFB etc (at least that's the way I read it).
The employee distinction is the biggest reason why schools don't want to pay the players because of all of the responsibilities it puts on the school.
Just a heads-up Bkmt......
joejohn is going to spank your bare a$$ on the fascist General Free-For-All boardI appreciate what you are saying from the standpoint of a fan of college football. It sucks from a fan standpoint that players have no loyalty to the school and they are going to the highest payor. However, from a player's standpoint, the old ways sucked for them. They were working what amounts to a full time job and were not being paid what they were worth. The schools were making a windfall and the players were essentially getting under paid, especially the star players.
IMO, the current system is flawed and overly frustrating not because the players are getting paid, but because the players are being overpaid by rich donors of a relatively small number of schools and there is no current regulation over what is happening. IMO, the NCAA needs to recognize that the players are employees and enter into a collective bargaining agreement because I do not believe the current system is sustainable from a competitive standpoint.
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We're still paying all of them...and we'll
Georgia is 90% of their own recruits...do you root for them?
I feel like I lost about 100 IQ points just glancing through this thread. Gosh, this fanbase has some of the dumbest people around.
I don’t go over the filth board… so JoeJohn can go spank something else!Just a heads-up Bkmt......