honest assesment of hire, if gran is the guy.

[resstealth]

Yes

You really need to work on your reading comprehension. I never said he was a convicted rapist. He never went to trial. He raped her and then paid her not to testify. That makes him a rapist even if you won't admit it. You bend over backwards defending him just like Card fans do for Pitino, Petrino, etc. Thanks for proving my point that you would be better off rooting for
U of L.

Yes, because multi millionaire athletes have to rape ****** to get some. About as credible as the claim against kobe, and I'm a bengals fan.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

her taking money doesnt prove its rape. Im glad this fool doesnt write the laws in our country.

 

[rye48]

You really need to work on your reading comprehension. I never said he was a convicted rapist. He never went to trial. He raped her and then paid her not to testify. That makes him a rapist even if you won't admit it. You bend over backwards defending him just like Card fans do for Pitino, Petrino, etc. Thanks for proving my point that you would be better off rooting for
U of L.

I think we would all be better off Rooting for someone else but we still love UK ,,, the Program everyone loves to hate !!

 

[Rockford]

I googled Coach Grand Slam

It came back with a Unicorn

 

[Mountain air]

Mmm, he let Brown do pretty much whatever he wanted. Brown just didn't have the personnel to run anything close to resembling the desired offense.

If this were true Brown would still be here. And we would be bowling right now.

 

[Katwatcher]

There has been a lot of coaches named in this thread and none of them can be a winner at UK, unless they are an exceptional recruiter. You can hire Saban, Meyer or any of the rest, but you can't expect them to turn the program into a contender in just 3 years.

I do not know much about Gran, only what I have read on here, but he has got his work cut out for him. I'm sure we will show improvement next year regardless of who is the OC. It will be because we have a good recruiting class coming in and another years experience for the rest of the squad.

There will be more bumps in the road and a higher expectancy level for this team like always. I don't think money is necessarily the answer to our problem. Its more support, more patience, and a coaching staff that works as a team.

Lets fill the stadium every Saturday instead of threatening to stay home if the coaches don't call the right plays.

Maybe the latest hiring of coaches will be the grand slam. I sure hope so.
jmho

 

[BlueRaider22]

If this were true Brown would still be here. And we would be bowling right now.

No. Brown turned down several HC offers to return to "his school" to be the OC. He has a soft spot for places that are a part of his past. I had a conversation with Neal about a month before he left. He was ecstatic at the way UK's offense was shaping up for the coming yrs. His exact word was "salivating." Unfortunately the personnel he had here just wasn't ready to run the desired offense.

Troy had a long time HC.....and his retirement was actually a fair shock to the Trojan faithful. Brown may have been able to turn down a few other HC jobs before because he didn't have connection to them, but the opportunity to become the HC at the school where he cut his coaching teeth????........that was too big to turn down.




On a side note. I've been to a number of practices through the yrs. You could see the tension between Stoops/Dawson quite often. (though I never thought Stoops overstepped his scope and forced Dawson) There was no tension between Stoops/Brown.......I would've loved to have seen what Brown would've done in yrs 3, 4, or even 5 had he have stayed. When Brown was hired, I thought he'd leave after 3 yrs to become a HC somewhere......that wasn't too far off.

 

[How Blue Can You Get?]

You really need to work on your reading comprehension. I never said he was a convicted rapist. He never went to trial. He raped her and then paid her not to testify. That makes him a rapist even if you won't admit it. You bend over backwards defending him just like Card fans do for Pitino, Petrino, etc. Thanks for proving my point that you would be better off rooting for
U of L.

You need to work on your comprehension alltogether then. By calling him a rapist, you are insinuating he actually did it...but if you cant prove that, which you cant, it's not fact as you claim, rather, it' s conjecture...logic is your friend.

 

[Crushgroove]

If this were true Brown would still be here. And we would be bowling right now.

Lol, Brown left UK to take the HC position at Troy. What are you talking about?

 

[seccats04]

I think Gran is the most realistic thing to a home run that we could get. If Hinshaw comes too that would be great as well because we desperately need a QB coach.

 

[footballfanatic77]

So did Georgia make a "grand slam hire" with Kirby Smart who has zero HC experience?
Did S. Carolina make a "grand slam hire" with Will Muschamp who failed at Florida?
Did you consider Jim McElwain a "grand slam hire" when hired at Florida?
Was Derek Dooley "the creme of the crop"?
Pretty well shoots your claim out of the water.


Here, I'll list the coaching hires in the past 10 years that weren't gambles...
1. Nick Saben @ Alabama
2. Urban Meyer @ Ohio St
That's it, that's the list.

I'd add Harbaugh @ Michigan to that list.

 

[Greasy Creak Mafia]

I look at it like this, anyway you look at it we are getting a one trick pony out of here and replaced ..

The clown who got the boot was a one trick pony , we are getting a QB coach who is better than Dawson and and OC who could call a better game than Dawson in his sleep. He has much more experience , his body of work far exceeds Dawson's so I think we are much better off. There is some potential for this team to get much better with a better play caller on deck.

Think back to the Vandy game and we have the ball on the 1 yard line twice. And Dawson's great call was to pass it from there into triple coverage , then tried running from the shotgun or pistol formation from the 7 when we are inches from the end zone . Never option, never wildcat. Dawson was a one trick pony , I just glad he is out.

 

[UK Bear Bryant]

Too many variables to know how Gran will do here... However, the San Diego State game was not an anomaly. Cincinnati got SPANKED by South Florida this year 65 - 27, WKU beat USF 35 -25 in the Miami Beach Bowl. I'm not overly excited... Time will tell.

Some of these plays look like some Kentucky football I've seen of late.

s://youtu.be/bRxecqKolfU

 

[Kidd-Liggit]

Too many variables to know how Gran will do here... However, the San Diego State game was not an anomaly. Cincinnati got SPANKED by South Florida this year 65 - 27

Good thing we didn't hire him to be the defensive coordinator then

 

[CATFANFOLIFE87]

Didnt say just anyone...and no, barnhart doesnt confide in me, but things leak and ive never heard of us taking this approach.

You know who has taken that approach? USC with Chip Kelly, Texas with Saban, and Tennessee with Gruden. You know who they ended up with? An interim coach with no HC experience, Charlie Strong who had 3 years HC experience in a mid-major conference, and Butch Jones who also came from a mid-major conference. You live in la la land if you think money is all that it takes to hire a great coach.

Coaches actually care about failing. They care about going somewhere that advances their career beyond their current position. They care about job security and job satisfaction. They care about the city and where they raise their family. They care about working with people that they are familiar with.

We got an OC from a top 10 offense with a nationally respected QB coach. Both have been named top 25 recruiters in the past 5 years. Both have a history of producing high draft picks. Both have been successful in the SEC. I'm sorry are there any other qualifications that you needed to see in this hire? Should we have gone and stole Kiffin from Bama?

 

[jauk11]

Listen, How Blue Can you be, if offering tons of money and getting great coaches was that easy we would have done it. I wish we could just blank check Saban, Belicheck, the ghost of Bill Walsh, etc... but you know who else would do that if it was that simple? Everyone. Then we'd still be job opening #300 and get the 300th best guy money can buy and still suck. As much of a scum bag as the guy is, Jurich is showing the model for what we need to do very well right down the road in Louisville. Hell even at Western. You have to try and hire guys who are going to use you for a stepping stone and keep elevating your program to the point that eventually it won't be a stepping stone anymore.

What I find crazy, is that other than Bobby after he has been damaged goods and we could of hired him is that every hire we make is mediocre at best. How in 6 hires(counting the post Claiborne) have we not just gotten lucky with one? I understand a bad hire or 2 but really, no Petrino, Strong, Taggert, Brohm, not once? I mean think of the names we almost hired or were looking at when we made other hires and how terrible our AD's have been at picking these Clowns. Steve Spurrier? Nope Jerry Claiborne, Steve Spurrier again? Nope Bill Curry, Hal Mumme, I liked that is the kind of guy we should be hiring every time. Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, Larry Fedora, Hugh Freeze, Sonny Dykes, etc... How did we always hire the wrong guy?

After the 14 class I thought mitch was very lucky and hired a very good coach for UK------still do.

The coaching must improve a great deal, but in fact I think it just did.

I also think that Gran is stepping into a VERY good situation at UK, QB not progressing or injured the one big worry, but I think bringing in a very good QB coach AND another good backup helps those worries a great deal------both of which I think will happen------and if it doesn't and Barker gets injured Gran will get a lot of leeway anyway. Then when you consider that we DO have some very good skill position talent (Only two OL in the TWO DEEP for the whole offense graduate) plus very good talent at TE with a huge influx of talent at the weak spot, OL, (plus some more talent and redshirts) I think 16 will see a very good offense and 17 could be outstanding.

And I believe/hope Towles has a very good year at BC, Phil Sims had a lot worse stats at Morehead playing in the OVC than Towles in the SEC and was the seventh player drafted, I think Towles gets drafted pretty high on his potential alone, regardless of his stats.

Sims still has the record for completion percentage in the Super Bowl, 22 of 25 for 88%------and two of the incompletions were drops.

 

[jauk11]

Honestly don't know if it matters who we hire if we continue to have awful QB and O-line play. I think Gran would be a good hire, but if Barker doesn't improve a lot from what we saw last year then we're going to be in trouble regardless of who our OC is. Fortunately, he was a freshman so there's definitely potential for improvement considering how young he is.

"Honestly don't know if it matters who we hire if we continue to have awful QB and O-line play."

We won't, the OL commits (along with eight of ten OL returning and a couple of redshirts) are going to make the QB look a lot better AND attract some good QB talent. We have had some good skill players over the years, much better now, but not many good QBs want to play against the SEC monsters behind the OLs we have had in the past.

 

[jauk11]

If Stoops is still our coach, does it matter?

Yes, a great deal. I don't think Saban looks nearly as good at UK as he does with the talent he has at Bama.

 

[jauk11]

I did this in another thread, didn't want to do all the years and cherry picking a bit, but UK's third year players next year from the 14 class averaged about a 5.685 on Rivals numerical scale (they should be very good as fourth year players in 17)------Cincinnati's 14 class averaged much less than a three star------5.450, the 15 class a 5.454, the 16 class so far is 89th to UK's 21st, they have 15 commits so far, five three stars and ten two stars. UK with about 17 four stars in the three classes, the Bearcats zero.qerq

Pooh pooh the ratings all you want, but while individual hits and misses are common whole classes being that far apart is very significant, and the numerical averages are much more precise than the common star ratings. Gran had much inferior competition there but he had much inferior talent also, obviously they were coached up a great deal. I can't wait for our OL upgrade to get started here, I'm sure the coaches feel the same way.

 

[meteordealer]

learn football, wow how ignorant and uneducated

The U?
Houston?

Google aac for 5 minutes and not look so unknowledgeable next post

Hopefully you're being sarcastic.

 

[rodrocket]

One thing for sure. Gran will improve the offense. write it down. Hinshaw coming also, makes this a home run hire for me.

I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!