I hope that you are right. If we are going to pay players beyond a full-ride academic scholarship, then at least there needs to be a two-way street. Under a formal contractual arrangement, the player is now fully committed to the school for three years. The school is also committed to the player for three years, which is equally important. In year 4 and 5, there could be a player option for a one-time transfer.Schools paying players - sign a contract - school loyalty - consistent rosters.
Yeah, 100% on the student-athlete model being kaput. You had to wonder what the final nail was going to end up being and, yeah, it’s precisely what we all expected.I hope that you are right. If we are going to pay players beyond a full-ride academic scholarship, then at least there needs to be a two-way street. Under a formal contractual arrangement, the player is now fully committed to the school for three years. The school is also committed to the player for three years, which is equally important. In year 4 and 5, there could be a player option for a one-time transfer.
The school should be subject to a maximum number of players on the roster (85 total, 25 per year), as well as a salary cap and salary floor. Academic enforcement will likely go out the window, to be replaced with attempting to enforce the salary limitations.
You can then at least sort of get the sport away from its current free agency model that the portal has created and have rules that theoretically put programs on a level playing field. On the downside, there will still be cheating by programs that circumvent the salary cap, and the student-athlete model will be formally demolished. But the sport could survive more or less intact if the portal goes away.
Schools paying players - sign a contract - school loyalty - consistent rosters.
Even with a contract, players can't be prevented from changing schools, unless:I hope that you are right. If we are going to pay players beyond a full-ride academic scholarship, then at least there needs to be a two-way street. Under a formal contractual arrangement, the player is now fully committed to the school for three years. The school is also committed to the player for three years, which is equally important. In year 4 and 5, there could be a player option for a one-time transfer.
The school should be subject to a maximum number of players on the roster (85 total, 25 per year), as well as a salary cap and salary floor. Academic enforcement will likely go out the window, to be replaced with attempting to enforce the salary limitations.
You can then at least sort of get the sport away from its current free agency model that the portal has created and have rules that theoretically put programs on a level playing field. On the downside, there will still be cheating by programs that circumvent the salary cap, and the student-athlete model will be formally demolished. But the sport could survive more or less intact if the portal goes away.
It is minor league.Factor schools that can realistically ante to play - conferences get major realignment - maybe even new structure - looking at the real minor league.
Even with a contract, players can't be prevented from changing schools, unless:
1. it's part of a collective bargaining agreement with a union; or
2. the contract contains liquidated damages clauses that make it prohibitively expensive to move, similar to coaches' contracts (and if another school wants a player enough, money talks).
Yes you are. There is no doubt. Collective bargaining agreements, player unions, contracts, agents. Everything that makes modern professional sports so lovely… and costly.Coming soon to a social media near you:
”We’re stuck with [INSERT QB’s NAME HERE] for four more years due to his excessive buyout. Damn it!”
I don't think you're necessarily a minority on this topic.It is minor league.
I will have as much interest in this as I have with the Harrisburg Senators. Not much.
Student athletes? Sure they are. “We don’t do school here.” He was right, or soon will be.
I guess I’m in the minority on this.
PITT fits nicely on that listDoes anyone plan to follow real college football? What we have called D3 college football.
Carnegie Mellon. Albright come to mind.
I would like to keep my allegiance to a PA school.
Any suggestions?
Really? More than enough $?Football separates from school - all revenue stays with program - pays license fee to school - more than enough to manage all the expensive costs that plague the pros.
I don’t take pleasure in seeing programs destroyed. I’m an old bastard who appreciates tradition and history.PITT fits nicely on that list
Not much at all has been addressed. We now have the obvious staring us in the face. They have to build a model that generates the revenue to pay for itself.Does this mean that players can be cut? Has this question been addressed?
Fixed.I’m just thrilled that things worked out for everyone’s satisfaction. I foresee no problems and clear sailing ahead. Whenever the NCAA suits and University administrators work in a coordinated effort what could possibly go awry. Rose petals will be blowing out of everyone’s butts, it’s gonna be awesome!
Gold plated rose petals.Fixed.
I don't donate anything now, so I don't foresee any donations in the future.Does anyone have a good estimate on what it will cost to pay the salaries of a college football team under the new system?
I will assume that tuition and expenses will be a base, so I don’t care about that.
The teams will have to come up with signing bonuses and annual salaries for starters and top recruits at least.
How many of you will be willing to ante up to pick up some of the tab? I won’t criticize you if you do. It’s your money, spend it as you like. I have my own demons I pay for.
I smiled at your mention of soccer games. I look back and cherish those Saturday mornings watching my two kids.I don't donate anything now, so I don't foresee any donations in the future.
Not sure how much I will watch going forward. My viewing of games has been waning anyway since it always seems that my son has some sort of sporting event whether it be baseball or soccer when PSU is playing. I might watch 2 whole games when I piece together what I do watch.
The best sporting event I ever attended was my daughter's college club lacrosse national championship game. Her team won in OT and she got the assist on the winning goal. After that game, I realized that the only better game that I could possibly ever see would be a game involving one of my grandkids.I smiled at your mention of soccer games. I look back and cherish those Saturday mornings watching my two kids.
I have been following Grand Valley State U more the last 3 years due to my son living with several starters on the team.Does anyone plan to follow real college football? What we have called D3 college football.
Carnegie Mellon. Albright come to mind.
I would like to keep my allegiance to a PA school.
Any suggestions?
Does this mean that players can be cut? Has this question been addressed?
It will be hard to keep track of the players without their names on the jerseys.You mean, fired? Sh|t-canned?
“After today’s 78-7 loss to ohio state, Penn State head coach James Franklin fired quarterback Slappy Wickersticks. Piffty McNethertoe was named interim quarterback.”
I have watched PSU/college football for 70 years. I just wish they had waited till I was gone.(sigh)Yeah, 100% on the student-athlete model being kaput. You had to wonder what the final nail was going to end up being and, yeah, it’s precisely what we all expected.
Why pay the license fees? Maybe for a year or two, but eventually the brand could just become another team nickname.Football separates from school - all revenue stays with program - pays license fee to school - more than enough to manage all the expensive costs that plague the pros.
Football separates from school - all revenue stays with program - pays license fee to school - more than enough to manage all the expensive costs that plague the pros.
Okay, who winds up owning the football team? We know who owns the stadium.Why pay the license fees? Maybe for a year or two, but eventually the brand could just become another team nickname.
After a few years what would be the purpose of the license fee? Just the thought of this is turning many fans away, so it is not like the fan base is automatically going to come with the license.
Okay, who winds up owning the football team? We know who owns the stadium.
He could get a bargain if PSU applies the same principles to team valuation as it did to the stadium renovation proposal.BREAKING NEWS:
Daniel Snyder to buy Penn State Nittany Lions
He'd do better than the Sandy and Eric show didBREAKING NEWS:
Daniel Snyder to buy Penn State Nittany Lions
Yes it is terrible we are paying the players some revenue when without the players there would be $0 revenue. Genius.It is minor league.
I will have as much interest in this as I have with the Harrisburg Senators. Not much.
Student athletes? Sure they are. “We don’t do school here.” He was right, or soon will be.
I guess I’m in the minority on this.
You ever pay to go to a HS event? Should those players be paid? I know there are a very few HS sports that are profitable. Who gets the money when HS events are on TV. ESPN is putting those games on for free?Yes it is terrible we are paying the players some revenue when without the players there would be $0 revenue. Genius.
It is really double dipping? Some people get paid to drive a truck and the truck is not a cost to the employee. Is that "double dipping"? There are lots of additional types compensation people get other than wages.If PSU pays its athletes*, said athletes can pay for tuition and room and board, right? They can apply for loans to cover any gaps. Why allow them to double-dip? When you get paid a salary, you pay your bills. As a bonus, these athletes can start to build their credit.
(* Do we really need to continue to call them ”student-athletes”? )