Hornets Draft Pick???
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After much deliberation, I think he has it narrowed down to either Paige or Johnson.
If Johnson is still on the board Charlotte will take him and the tar heel fans will rejoice. OFC
After they draft Paige or Johnson they will then give a max deal to the Black Pigeon.
The hornets must be boring to watch, because I know UNC is!
I think there is a real future in the NBA for 4-corners basketball.
This reminded me of JP Tokoto opting out early. He got drafted just barely, then got waived during the preseason and has been in the D-league ever since. I doubt he's made much money. He's still a sub 30% 3-point shooter with crazy hops. I doubt he ever gets the chance to show off that leaping ability in the NBA. Paige will have to be very lucky as well. There aren't many roster spots for guys shorter than 6'3. There must be like 50 guys shorter than that, most of whom are athletic freaks or ball handling wizards like Paul or Parker. I'm rooting for Paige. He's a great young man.
Brutal, but likely accurate. He seems like a good dude, but learning a second language is probably in his future.
I doubt Paige would pursue a professional basketball career overseas. I think he would just find another career path.
I think there's a place for him in the NBA though. Or at least, there should be. You can't tell me that Paige isn't better than Boban Marjanovic (who is supposedly the third most efficient player in the NBA). I kid, I kid. But for real though, Paige, for his high character, big shot making ability and leadership skills, seems like a good guy to have on your team taking up the 13th spot. Hopefully there are at least a few coaches out there that see his value.
Unfortunately a lot of those spots tend to go to guys like an aging vet- like Andre Miller etc.
What Boban has going for him is that he is 7+ feet tall.
I'd honestly take Quinn Cook before Paige.
link is somewhere on SI.com NBA page. So many new stories on there I cannot locate it.
That would just be a homer pick and that's ok. Because Cook doesn't do anything better than Paige. For their college careers, Paige has better numbers (although closer than I would have thought) in every major statistical category except FT% (.853 to .844). And Paige is a better athlete, a superior defender and was the leader of the team for 3 years. The only thing that might lean in Cook's favor between the two would be the fact that Marcus has had trouble staying healthy.
Paige averaged more minutes over his career; if you level it out with 100 possessions per player, they are essentially the same player. Cook has slightly better averages in most categories, but nothing to beat your chest about. However, he did have a much better senior year than Paige did.
Career Average Per 100 Possessions
Cook:
Pts- 23.4
Ast- 7.6
Reb- 5.6
Stl- 2.2
TOV- 3.0
FG%- 43.2%
EFg%- 52.8%
3pt%- 37.5%
FT%- 85.3%
Paige:
Pts- 23.0
Ast- 7.5
Reb- 5.0
Stl- 2.5
TOV- 3.4
FG%- 40.7%
Efg%- 50.9%
3pt%- 37.5%
FT%- 84.4%
And player efficiency rating too. Cook had a PER of 18.8 versus Paige's 17.8. Again, nothing to beat your chest about, but Cook was a little more efficient.
Head to head Quinn usually won their matchupd
Why do you think that is? IMO, it's because from the jump, Paige was a guy you could count on on both ends of the court. Cook wasn't. In addition, Cook had trouble accepting his role and was never considered a leader of the team. His soph or junior year (can't remember which), he struggled and was benched. He was too emotional to be an effective PG. Paige was the unquestioned leader for 3 years that was as level-headed and grounded as they come. His leadership skills are vastly superior as was his play on the defensive end.
As far as winning the head to head match up, c'mon now. There are 8 other guys on the court that had a pretty big say in how those games unfolded.
Are you acknowledging a little bit of homerism or do you honestly think NBA GMs would prefer Quinn Cook to Marcus Paige?
Interesting.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think Quinn was better at winning a national title game.
Beacuse Cook played on a better team. UNC didn't have any other options; Stilman White started the last game before Paige arrived on campus.
Paige scored 5 points or less in 3 of the 6 games he faced Cook.
Paige/Cook were both great college players, but neither one has a high NBA ceiling. Either one could I suppose could play a couple seasons in the league, but their production would be minimal. I'm only contesting your argument that picking Cook over Paige is a homer pick. Based on college stats, it's hardly a homer pick. He was slightly more efficient.
Interesting.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think Quinn was better at winning a national title game.
I walked into that one and when I poasted my comment, I knew someone was going to reply with that. "Touche" is really all I can say to that. I don't guess I need to point out that Cook was only 3-8 for 6 points and 4 rebounds in 35 minutes of play and basically rode the coattails of far better players and that Paige went for 21, 6 and 5 (with only 1 TO) and hit one of the most incredible and clutch shots in final game history while he was willing his team to the brink of a championship. But yes, indeed, Cook is better at winning national championships.
Again, like I said yesterday in another thread, we can all find stats that will support which ever side of the argument we choose to take. I'm too lazy to look for stats of points scored in the last 5 minutes of close games or percentage of points scored when driving to the hole and such. But there is this thing called the eye test. And I think that if you were being truthful, you'd admit that Paige scores far higher marks in that department than Quinn Cook. But I realize this is the duke board and it's not likely you'd admit as much. Maybe denn or dukiejay would like to chime in. Both of them tend to be pretty objective in their comments.
So someone is objective if they agree with you? Makes sense.
Neither were great college players. Both had one 'great' season. I think the big edge for Cook is that he progressed each year where you could easily argue that Paige regressed.
5-1 against Paige right? I recall Paige and Johnson celebrating like kids who'd just won their Little League championship after they finally won at Cameron Indoor
I would give Paige an edge as far as defense, but for someone his size, he really needs to be a more consistent shooter to find a spot in the NBA. He's not PJ Hairston-erratic, but he sure can go on a cold-spell quickly.
I'm fine if someone wants to call me a homer for saying this, but it completely blows my mind that Cleveland paid Dellavedova $1.1 million and Mo Williams $2.1 million this season to ride the pine instead of a guy like Quinn Cook.
You toss around labels like "homer" and like to talk about objectivity, and yet you want to rely on your own "eye test" to confirm that Paige is better? Interesting.
The eye test also confirms that UNC cheated for two decades.