This. Even Paige would be a better option than Dellavedova IMO.
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This. Even Paige would be a better option than Dellavedova IMO.
I missed the draft last night. Where did Lt. Plumlee go? Probably to the Warriors or OKC or Cleveland- those teams could really use the intangibles he brings to the table.
Too bad for you the NCAA doesn't confirm such.
Premature gloating/trolling. A lot can change between now and the start of next season. A second round pick doesn't guarantee anything, and going undrafted doesn't preclude a NBA career.
Utah has one free agent this summer, Trevor Booker. When you throw in the 4 draft picks, the Jazz are up to 19 players. They have 4 point guards on contract with Mack, Exum, Burke, and Neto. He can still make an NBA team, but I'd be surprised if it's with the Jazz.
Edit: Make that five point guards with the addition of George Hill.
Edit: Make that five point guards with the addition of George Hill.
Bad for us? Considering our outlook as a program, UNC's escape from due punishment isn't going to affect our success.
According to local wral sports cast earlier in the week Joel James was hoping to be drafted.
How did that work out for him?
The difference is that Marshall actually has a chance of playing in the NBA one day. James, on the other hand, would be lucky to make a roster abroad.
If he had left after his first year he might have been lottery. Roy ruined his career.
Oh thank god this didn't happen. I would have been fine with the Celtics trading for Noel or even better, Embiid. I wanted the Celtics to trade the pick so badly, because I think Jaylen Brown is a fraud - I would have been happy if it somehow got us Butler instead.
All that said I'd even still rather have Brown than Okafor. The Celtics have enough problems - they don't need someone who starts fights with fans.
Also, LOL at those that think Quinn Cook has a better chance at getting minutes than Paige. Not that Paige will be some all-star, but you guys can't be serious on that one. Cook will be decent in the D-League - Paige will actually see NBA minutes.
Please let me know if I've misread some sarcasm on this one - I'm not a regular on this board as you can tell, so I can understand if I don't get the jokes around here.
Please let me know if I've misread some sarcasm on this one - I'm not a regular on this board as you can tell, so I can understand if I don't get the jokes around here.
Not sure if I missed some sarcasm, so if I did apologies, but if you're serious about rather having Brown than Jah, you're insane.
Also, gun to my head, neither Cook nor Paige have much of a career in the league, but i'd still rather have Cook. I think he's a better player than Paige at this point. Paige got worse (yes injuries played a part) Cook continues to improve. I think he'll get a shot at a roster spot this year.
Hark, I think your "basketball analysis" would be better suited to stay on THR. Your naïve, UNC-centric takes will land much better with Gary and company, because they too live in the fantasy world where all UNC guys are going to be pros, the current pros are about to blow up, all Duke guys stink, no recruit turns them down without shenanigans, the refs are always against them, etc. that your takes imply you also populate.
Hark only time will tell but of course we will disagree until hell freezes over. I think the major difference was, it seemed to me anyway was the dependability of Quinn Cook knocking down the big shot whereas Paige struggled hitting the big one for the most part. You can toss out the great shot he hit against Nova because it was as much luck as skill and even a UNC fan should agree with that. Paige was a better jumper, slightly more athletic, both quiet good at driving to the basket for layups but in a pinch Quinn seemed more dependable for at least 3 or his 4 seasons at Duke where Paige had to be a disappointment for 2 or 2-1/2 for UNC. Plus there is the NCAA Championship difference. I doubt Cook nor Paige will be remembered for their pro careers.
If you ignore about 20 of the games Paige played in this year, he actually had a really impressive senior year.
Marcus is a better driver and better finisher and, IMO, is a considerably better athlete - not just slightly. Yes, the jumper against Nova might have had an element of luck. But Paige won a few games throughout his career with big shots - (NCSU, Louisville). Marcus battled injuries and was not as consistent. But Marcus at his best was better than Cook at his best. And while most have agreed that Paige was the better defender, I think the separation there is pretty sizable and is a pretty big deal.
And, Marcus is the 10,384 most popular person according to the below site whereas Cook comes in at 13,154. If that's not proof who's better, then I don't know what else to tell y'all.
http://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/marcus-paige.html
The debate is definitely open on Cook vs. Paige as we haven't seen much from either of them that would give a firm prognosis. I imagine the Duke fans would lean Cook, and the UNC fans would lean Paige. This is one we can agree to disagree.
But to those who think that Okafor is a better player than Noel or Embiid - I beg to differ. As much as I hate the Brown pick, he's not defensively inept like Okafor. The fact he won't punch out some kid half his size in street fight is just a bonus. At least the Celtics can sell Brown to the fans as "At least we didn't trade for a thug!"
But to those who think that Okafor is a better player than Noel or Embiid - I beg to differ. As much as I hate the Brown pick, he's not defensively inept like Okafor. The fact he won't punch out some kid half his size in street fight is just a bonus. At least the Celtics can sell Brown to the fans as "At least we didn't trade for a thug!"
Okafor's behavior was absolutely stupid in those instances, and there isn't anyone here that would disagree with that. But, it *doesn't define him as a person, much less as a player. If it did, he wouldn't be on the Select Team.
Also, while you knock Okafor as a defensive "liability," you're also grossly overlooking the fact that Embid is a complete unknown, having never played a game in the NBA player, and Noel is a total offensive liability.
Throughout his years at a high profile program at Whitney Young High in Chicago, his year at Duke, and a season in the NBA, he has exactly one embarrassing incident. There isn't a GM in the NBA that considers him a thug.
I'm sure the "thug" 19 year old will learn from his mistake about punching a kid who had been heckling him and coming after him constantly. That kid definitely didn't deserve it.
On a serious note, sure what he did was regrettable and i'm sure he does. He'll learn from it, he's 19. But labeling him a thug is not fair at all. And believe me, as a celtics fan, i'm sure you're calling Marcus Smart a thug too right? I mean call a spade a spade right?
One or two good games with Jah in the paint and you'll gladly take him over Brown, who i legit have zero clue where he fits in on that team. Embidd hasn't played a game in the NBA and Noel has ZERO offensive game whatsoever as Mark pointed out. Jah will only get better and you surround him with a great organization, winning tradition and i'm sure he'll be right at home.
Oh and Marshall just got picked up by the Knicks. So there's that cherry on top.
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Alright, let's take the athleticism debate. Here are Cook and Paige's combine results.
Standing vert:
Cook - 24.5
Paige - 33.5
Max vert:
Cook - 31"
Paige - 39.5"
Lane agility:
Cook - 11.28
Paige - 10.82
Shuttle run:
Cook - 3.41
Paige - 2.69
Three quarter sprint
Cook - 3.38
Paige - 3.15
Paige did indeed win a couple games with big plays in crunch time. Video evidence:
As far as him being a better driver and finisher, that is indeed subjective, I reckon. But I don't think analysts would disagree with me. And someone (I think it was dukedevils) mentioned yesterday that Cook was better in the pick-n-roll. I can't refute he was "better" but I can say that Bilas last night spit a stat when he was discussing how good Paige was in P&R situations. I'm sure y'all DVR'd the draft so you can go back and hear the high praise he had for Marcus.
And as far as my comment that Paige was better at his best than Cook was at his best, we can just look at their best years...or their top games. And again, I would like to stress...
Paige does have some surprising combine measurables. We'll see if he can become an NBA setup man and reliable shooter. I hope he makes it.
One thing about Paige is his positive attitude and good character. That will go a long ways when it comes down to picking a spot on a roster when the other guy is a problem. OFC
He has size you can't teach and work ethic you can't teach so he at least has a shot.
Sorry, believe Marshall signed with the Knicks, I originally thought i saw Miami. Call me Gary. Maybe it's the knicks, maybe it's the heat ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Good thing Paige is fast. You gotta get water to the guys that actually play pretty quickly.
Alright, let's take the athleticism debate. Here are Cook and Paige's combine results.
Standing vert:
Cook - 24.5
Paige - 33.5
Max vert:
Cook - 31"
Paige - 39.5"
Lane agility:
Cook - 11.28
Paige - 10.82
Shuttle run:
Cook - 3.41
Paige - 2.69
Three quarter sprint
Cook - 3.38
Paige - 3.15
Paige did indeed win a couple games with big plays in crunch time. Video evidence:
As far as him being a better driver and finisher, that is indeed subjective, I reckon. But I don't think analysts would disagree with me. And someone (I think it was dukedevils) mentioned yesterday that Cook was better in the pick-n-roll. I can't refute he was "better" but I can say that Bilas last night spit a stat when he was discussing how good Paige was in P&R situations. I'm sure y'all DVR'd the draft so you can go back and hear the high praise he had for Marcus.
And as far as my comment that Paige was better at his best than Cook was at his best, we can just look at their best years...or their top games. And again, I would like to stress...
The D stands for D League and the only two videos you should remember when regarding Marcus vs. Quinn are:
AND
DH, for some reason it sounds like you aren't trusting the talent evaluations from fans of a team who's current premier pro averages 11 points a game.
Or a skinny cook for that matter. I want to know where Meeks eats.