Last night was the 3rd game this year that we have had a no call on an obvious horse collar tackle. Are the refs that blind or is it the fact it's Kentucky football and they say just screw it. Also the late hit on Johnson when he slid was a very bad non call. Thoughts?
Horse collar tackles
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How bout the Ump tripping up Conrad on the late crossing route?
UK overcame a bunch of BS last night.
This team is coming together nicely.
Missouri is in deep trouble.
UK overcame a bunch of BS last night.
This team is coming together nicely.
Missouri is in deep trouble.
Horse collar was a definite bad call ... "late hit" was 50/50, as MSU player had already kind of started the hit/tackle when Smith began to slide.
I replayed the trip several times. The ref moved his leg and foot forward for no reason (other than to get in conrad's way).
We get horse collared about every other game and never gets called. I just dont get it.
It was a poor "non call", but the TAMU player getting destroyed by the Bama player on kickoff was probably the worst non call of the day.
Bama gets away with murder.
Bama gets away with murder.
I hope Stoops sends films to the SEC office of the horse collar plays that have not been called in our favor..there have been a few. The refs ought to be suspended for one game. That is a rule , not an optional call.
Had the same thought we have been screwed on that call(horse collar) 2 or three time this year.You know what is coming though,we will get the shaft on one in the next game or two.
Why would a ref not make an obvious call right in front of him? Probably something going back earlier in his life of either not liking UK or loving MS ST. Why else would he let it go? Any thoughts?
This is college football between two mediocre teams. Easy there with the "world class athlete" thing. Lol. Also, are you saying it's easy to see at home or on the field? Not sure what you were going for.
Matt Jones said on the post game show that a ref flagged Stoops for complaining about the non call on the horse collar. Luckily they only gave him a sideline warning and didn't penalize UK 15 yards there because it would've been the ballgame probably. That would've been a crappy way to lose on a call like that. The officiating crew was very subpar all night long. MSU could've been called for holding on pretty much every possession but only got flagged for it maybe twice I think.
I promise you, those players that are on the field are in the top half percent of the top athletes in the world.
I played college basketball, very small college. Only 4 percent of all players play at the college level. That's any level, to play and compete in major college athletes are world class athletes.
Agree. And regarding the "collision" with the ref; the ref is part of the field, just like a blade of grass.
Peace
That crew struggled all night, not one of the better SEC crews if there's such a thing.
Yeah, their left tackle had some obvious holds they didn't call. At least one hurt us on a big play.
Par for the course Cats've gotten screwed as long as I've been watching football
UK will get another one of those "Oops, our bad" letters from the SEC office. UK office has mulitple file cabinets full of them.
The ump inexplicably moved forward and tripped Walker on the play, and the same ump looked right at the horse collar tackle from 12 feet away, with the Miss St player's arm extended and didn't throw the flag.
At some point Stoops is gonna slug somebody.
At some point Stoops is gonna slug somebody.
It is legal to grab the back of the pads. You can not pull the player down through the tackle, backwards to the ground. He was close to going forward which is why it wasn't called. It is one of the least understood penalties in fb.
If you think any umpire wants anything to do with a te running the middle you should have your brain examined. Teams use the umpire to get seperation from a defender. In this instance he got too close. \
This crew called a ton of penalties against MSU, lots of holds that hurt them, not one hold on us, and the ref showed GREAT restraint by making a possible unsport. conduct a warning. They missed a dpi in the 1st half, but overall they were fine imho.
If you think any umpire wants anything to do with a te running the middle you should have your brain examined. Teams use the umpire to get seperation from a defender. In this instance he got too close. \
This crew called a ton of penalties against MSU, lots of holds that hurt them, not one hold on us, and the ref showed GREAT restraint by making a possible unsport. conduct a warning. They missed a dpi in the 1st half, but overall they were fine imho.
If those jokers have a hard time seeing things in real time maybe they need to let more things be called by the guys watching in slo mo
They don't have the luxury of being able to scan whole field without moving. I've officiated basketball at a high level, and the game, no matter what level, looks totally different in the line of fire.
Those guys are the best if the best officials. You don't get to that level by being a joker.
Enough conspiracy theories here. The ref was not trying to trip the UK receiver on purpose he just got in the way.
This is correct. MSU didn't get a friendly whistle at all last night. Not that they have a reason to complain either. The missed/bad calls were pretty even on both sides. There have been games in the past where I would swear the refs had money on the game against us. Last night wasn't one of them however.
For sure. A game between bottom dwelling Miss State and "no respect" UK means we get the dregs of SEC officials. The horse collar no call was a joke. The late hit on Johnson was another obvious missed call. But they also missed a pass interference call on UK. Pretty sad crew/
Refs are going to miss some calls, we all know that. However, there was absolutely NO reason for the ref to miss the horse-collar call. He knew he missed it or he would have penalized UK after the Coach Stoops tirade.
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
Sure.... and I wouldnt smack you with a tuna fish right now for being a fool. Stop trying to protect a jack *** ref just because your fragile mind doesnt want to believe a ref would do that.
I'm not lying about it.. I replayed it several times... had others look at it. He moved his leg and foot forward after standing perfectly still the whole time... the only part that our player ran into was that leg........ What was he doing?? having a cramp?
You don't have to move to see a play right in front of you, plus, that's why they have so many officials on the field. If these are the best of the best, well that's the problem. If the game is too fast for the refs they are going to have to change the rules so that egregious fouls can be called when picked up on replay.
I have seen too much crap missed by refs that was right under their noses and there was nothing fast about it. yeah, jokers
You stand there eye level with 22 full grown men running full speed from every direction and tell me you see everything. Someone runs in front of you, you can't see through them. Judgement is very very debatable. The fans on the stands who gripe the most, set in a two foot space and without moving two muscles can see entire field. The guys calling the game don't have that. What was the penelty count last night anyways. We have no where to gripe. Was it missed yes, did it cost us the game no. (Calls never do because if we play a perfect game one call ain't gonna kill us). For every call we thought they miss, we have five mistakes. It's the nature of the beast. So move on about it.
The hit didn't look bad to me initially, but the replay showed elbow/forearm to right side of helmet. Should have been called but needed to be at a good angle to see.
What a dumb *** response. What possible motivation would a ref have for doing that? You think they are protecting a 2 win team? Seriously?
You of course realize the refs don't actually know the play don't you. It's not hard for them to just be in the wrong spot.
You know they are favored, right? Lol Putting all jokes aside, I agree with you Against Vanderbilt, we left at lest fourteen to twenty-one points on the field. We should have won by three touchdowns. Same with the Mississippi State game. One of these days (it could be against Missouri), we are going to put together a complete game and beat someone by three to four touchdowns! Defense and Special Teams are looking good and just needs Offense to step up to the plate! Johnson is throwing the ball better and our offensive line is doing well though!
That doesn't always matter though. Its still flagged almost all the time whether the defender already started going to hit or not. UK just doesn't get those calls.
So... You've seen it several times, showed it to others, and saw enough to be certain it was a conspiracy to trip our player and give MSU the game... And yet, you came on here and said the player tripped was CJ Conrad...
Don't take this the wrong way, but no one should put any faith in your tin foil hat theories if your eyes aren't even good enough to see the difference in 5'10 walk on slot receiver and 6'5, 250 lb Mackey award list TE after watching however many replays it is you claim to have seen.
This thread started strong and was immediately derailed by a couple idiots. When such stupid things are argued it delegitimizes the actual conversation taking place on the missed horse collar tackles. If football was as worried about player safety as they are about PR and movies like Concussion, the horse collar would be reviewable just like targeting and come with the same 1 game suspension. Its an extremely dangerous play.