How did we allow San Bernardino to happen?

DvlDog4WVU

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nt-two-weeks-before-shooting-source-says.html

This plus the fact that they knew he was communicating with individuals with ties to ISIS. Someone dropped the ball, no?
The reality is that we aren't safe. There are so many targets of opportunity out there that this will never stop. Look for school buses to be next, malls, hotels, even airports. Think about he clusters of people waiting on TSA, parades, Mardi Gras, St Paddy's day in Savannah, tailgates, rush hours, these are all targets.

The only saving grace is that our enemy doesn't understand the American psyche. The look for symbolic victories instead of what will actually cause terror. That changed in San Bern. Why? Because it was done by an American and not a foreign national. Indiscriminate killing is the most terrifying, hardest to defend against, and as long as we maintain our freedoms they will use the loopholes to their advantage. It's a fact of life that we have to deal with.
 

1WVU

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The reality is that we aren't safe. There are so many targets of opportunity out there that this will never stop. Look for school buses to be next, malls, hotels, even airports. Think about he clusters of people waiting on TSA, parades, Mardi Gras, St Paddy's day in Savannah, tailgates, rush hours, these are all targets.

The only saving grace is that our enemy doesn't understand the American psyche. The look for symbolic victories instead of what will actually cause terror. That changed in San Bern. Why? Because it was done by an American and not a foreign national. Indiscriminate killing is the most terrifying, hardest to defend against, and as long as we maintain our freedoms they will use the loopholes to their advantage. It's a fact of life that we have to deal with.
But these folks were evidently on the radar. A huge bank deposit doesn't raise a flag? At least surveillance?

And I agree that we are inherently unsafe.
I honestly think a sporting event will happen soon. When's the last time you were sufficiently searched when entering MPS?
 

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Law enforcement officials in San Bernardino and Los Angeles may have investigated Syed Farook one week before the shooting on the community development center on December 2, 2015, that left 14 dead and 17 injured, according to a review of police communications immediately following the attacks.

Federal and local authorities have insisted that neither of the attackers had aroused suspicion before the assault earlier this month and that both Syed Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, were unknown to law enforcement and US intelligence. But conversations between law enforcement officials in the hours after the shootings leave a different impression.
Farook is first identified by name at approximately 11:40am local time, just a half hour after the shooting began. The information came from a county worker, who noted that Farook had been acting nervous and left the holiday party twenty minutes before the shooting began.

In a subsequent exchange at approximately 12:08pm the dispatcher addresses an officer nicknamed "Trav" upon hearing "Syed Farook." She says: "Reference that name, I believe one of the [garbled] was working that name up for something last week. I'll have to check."

In a second exchange shortly after 12:20, another officer says of Farook: "I just got some info from that LAPD that they have information on one of your suspects. I heard that somebody was trying to INV that guy. Can you find out who I can give this information to?"

A third exchange, two minutes later, follows:

Officer 2: [garbled] I had received a call [garbled] that had some information that they had ran the guy or something last week and I was going to give it to your intel guys.

Officer 1: Okay, that's what I was trying to get you to. If you're at the mobile command – uh, what's your 20?
 

DvlDog4WVU

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But these folks were evidently on the radar. A huge bank deposit doesn't raise a flag? At least surveillance?

And I agree that we are inherently unsafe.
I honestly think a sporting event will happen soon. When's the last time you were sufficiently searched when entering MPS?
Legitimately, if the NSA is doing what's it's supposed to then yes under the rules of the Patriot Act. However, it's pretty easy to get around that if you actually want to and at best, what the Patriot Act would have triggered would have been increased surveillance to build a case.

With that said, I still find it highly coincidental that there was a MassCas training event occurring not far from the location of the event.
 

dave

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But these folks were evidently on the radar. A huge bank deposit doesn't raise a flag? At least surveillance?

And I agree that we are inherently unsafe.
I honestly think a sporting event will happen soon. When's the last time you were sufficiently searched when entering MPS?
They were searching students pretty hard the last 2 games.