How is Berry Tramel still employed?

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They have been praising Alabama of late, during halftime of the Pats vs Bills game they had Herbie on talking about the CFP and he said Alabama was up there way above anyone else. Who exactly have they played that puts them at such a lofty level above the others? To date their best win is over the Texas Aggies and the Aggies are not that good.
Its the same every year though, the sec teams move up the polls the most after a few cupcake wins and when they lose they don't fall as much as teams from other conferences.
Its never going to change tho.
 

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Not according to Tramel's logic.
He no doubt was one of the blowhards talking up the Big10 East division as the best in CFB, and can't back off that opinion even though that division has no out of conf scalps (TCU for tOSU? please) and has to do a circular argument that the Big 10 is itself somehow great as they beat up on each other.

OU@ISU was a solid win with their new QB (an unveiled unknown when we played them), and IF we beat Tech and UWV those will be good wins; hell Tramel's fishrap has to talk the pokes up no matter what, but after the UT win it is defacto that Bedlam will be a big game now (or Jenni won't talk to Barry!), even though the Pokes have looked like crap most of the year.
 

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I don't think Tramel is an OU-hater or even that ignorant. The way I've read Tramel for many years is that he considers himself highly intellectual and to be such means to be impartial and decide with facts rather than feelings. He just tries too hard at it, so he frequently downgrades his feelings about OU to a fault so as to not look biased.

He just tries too hard to be smart.
 

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I don't think Tramel is an OU-hater or even that ignorant. The way I've read Tramel for many years is that he considers himself highly intellectual and to be such means to be impartial and decide with facts rather than feelings. He just tries too hard at it, so he frequently downgrades his feelings about OU to a fault so as to not look biased.

He just tries too hard to be smart.

Just like I try to be as fast as Usain Bolt. It just isn't there.
 

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Name one person on the Oklahoman staff that is any good. If Tramel had any talent, he would have bagged a better gig a long time ago.

Ryan Aber and (I forgot her whole name) Brooke don't bother me at all. They don't seem to write much opinionated jibberish. They just report the news. You'd think that would be the point of a newspaper.
 

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Since it's still October and OU has yet to play a top notch opponent and laid an egg to a much lesser Texas team due to poor defense, I can understand why Trammel has reservations about OU.....at this time.
I do.
 
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They have been praising Alabama of late, during halftime of the Pats vs Bills game they had Herbie on talking about the CFP and he said Alabama was up there way above anyone else. Who exactly have they played that puts them at such a lofty level above the others? To date their best win is over the Texas Aggies and the Aggies are not that good.
Its the same every year though, the sec teams move up the polls the most after a few cupcake wins and when they lose they don't fall as much as teams from other conferences.
Its never going to change tho.

I think with Bama, it's not so much who they have beaten, but how badly they are just destroying their opponents. True, their opposition so far this season has been soft, but that may change this weekend. They have a trip to LSU for a night game in Death Valley, then three home matches against Miss State, The Citadel (WTF???) and Auburn, then the SEC Championship. Hopefully, someone will give the Tide all they can handle and may even knock them off!
 
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Trammel is indeed out of touch or he's trolling. I think he's trolling which sells papers, which sells ads, and gets peeps like us talking about him on a message board.
 
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He is addicted to his own kool-aid. Like so many in the media he thinks he is smarter than the rest of us. He knows everything and uses the ink to show it. On occasion he will come across with something worth reading. My usual thing is to quickly scan his stuff and then move on. I don't know why we keep the digital subscription as we hardly read it.

There just isn't any sports person at the DO that I like. It is kind of a college sports wasteland. It is way to hard to find something interesting and new.
 
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I admit I like Trammel. He seems like a pretty decent guy and he obviously knows sports. I think at times he tries to be controversial so his articles will gain interest. It obviously works since we are on here now talking about it

I hate to break it to you, but by reading his garbage, you’re just helping him to keep a job.
 

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Worse than Tramel are those Bozos on espn who constantly downplay the Sooners. Just win out and the Sooners will be in the playoffs. LSU and Georgia will lose to Bama and Michigan will lose to Ohio State.
 

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He is addicted to his own kool-aid. Like so many in the media he thinks he is smarter than the rest of us. He knows everything and uses the ink to show it. On occasion he will come across with something worth reading. My usual thing is to quickly scan his stuff and then move on. I don't know why we keep the digital subscription as we hardly read it.

There just isn't any sports person at the DO that I like. It is kind of a college sports wasteland. It is way to hard to find something interesting and new.
You keep the Digital, royg, because it comes with the bundle. It is free with your subscription to the printed copy. What you may not know, or have forgotten, that bundle also allows you to run one FREE Ad in the Classifieds, each month. I've used that, successfully, many times.

Additionally, I enjoy the Online Edition access, which has recently been upgraded, considerably. It updates frequently throughout the day and has the option of BREAKING NEWS Email alerts. It is also my Go-To Site for local weather...I like the HOURLY forecast for precipitation in MY Zip Code...

I subscribe to the DOK in spite of, not because of, the Trammel/Carlson Non-Dynamic Duo...
 

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Tramel has had me rolling my eyes since '99. I was 15. Seriously.

He always feigns impartial judgement until the Sooners start obliterating the eye test then he jumps all over the bandwagon.

By seasons end when we're 12-1 and have pushed the rest of the Big XII's doo doo in, he'll be back on board.

As for reality:

Alabama has faced hardly a breeze of competition.
Clemson's resume is not much better.
Same for ND, Michigan, and Georgia who has looked pedestrian with a bit tougher schedule, but got smothered by LSU.
Speaking of, only the Tigers have am impressive resume and a "quality" loss. (Excuse me while I vomit).

This entire season's games are back loaded. Also, outside of Clemson, Bama, ND kind of, and Oklahoma's offense, nobody has really impressed.
 

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Tramel has had me rolling my eyes since '99. I was 15. Seriously.

He always feigns impartial judgement until the Sooners start obliterating the eye test then he jumps all over the bandwagon.

By seasons end when we're 12-1 and have pushed the rest of the Big XII's doo doo in, he'll be back on board.

As for reality:

Alabama has faced hardly a breeze of competition.
Clemson's resume is not much better.
Same for ND, Michigan, and Georgia who has looked pedestrian with a bit tougher schedule, but got smothered by LSU.
Speaking of, only the Tigers have am impressive resume and a "quality" loss. (Excuse me while I vomit).

This entire season's games are back loaded. Also, outside of Clemson, Bama, ND kind of, and Oklahoma's offense, nobody has really impressed.

LSU looked good against Georgia. They have a little bit more of an offense than they usually do. Of course they seem to also have a great D. I wish the LSU/Bama game was at a different time because I would love to watch it. Hopefully OU isn't getting to happy about being back in the playoff race. They are going to have their hands full with Tech and WV. Not to mention the Big 12 title game if we make it.
 
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I may regret this because it’s going to make me sound like a jerk, but I can tolerate Tramel’s views more so than the goofy personality he portrays during Lincoln’s presser every week. My wife says I can be a jerk sometimes, so I don’t care. I’ve become comfortable with it. :cool:
 

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I may regret this because it’s going to make me sound like a jerk, but I can tolerate Tramel’s views more so than the goofy personality he portrays during Lincoln’s presser every week. My wife says I can be a jerk sometimes, so I don’t care. I’ve become comfortable with it. :cool:

I'm pretty sure most of our wives would consider us jerks every now and then.
 

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Since it's still October and OU has yet to play a top notch opponent and laid an egg to a much lesser Texas team due to poor defense, I can understand why Trammel has reservations about OU.....at this time.
I do.

I can present no plausible argument.
 
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His article this morning, "Sooners don't quite crack my top 10" is a perfect example of how much he DOESN'T know about sports...
Since when is knowing anything about sports a prerequisite for writing about sports or expressing opinions about sports. We had several people on this board criticizing Lincoln Riley’s playe calling after the TCU game. How much football do they know. The deal is that Trammel actually gets paid for some of his stupidity.