Curious as to what the masses think regarding how long Riley has left and how long he wants to remain a head football coach before retiring. While many are split on if he was the "right" hire or not, my biggest concern, like many I'm sure, is regardless of his success, how long do we have before we go through the process of having to hire another coach due to retirement?
How long does Riley have?
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Honestly don't feel his age is an issue. He's 62, two years younger than Nick Saban, fourteen years younger than Bill Snyder, nine years younger than Frank Solich, (you get the point)... Anyway, I think his success (or lack of) will pretty heavily influence his retirement date.
I think he gets at least 3 or 4 more years even with mediocre results. If he competes for B1G championships, he'll get as long as he wants. I'm rooting for him hard to succeed.
I agree somewhat. But at some point, the aches & pains associated with aging begin to tell a different story.
I'm afraid he will win a few games more every year and buy time since the bar is so low. 8 wins next year, everyone singing his praises because that's 2 more wins even though this season was underacheicing, then a few 9 win seasons and that's ok now, and maybe play for a big title but not win and nothing more and we end up with six years of stagnation before the old guy calls it quits and we basically got no where. Pumpers will point to improvement over a 6-7 season and how he "laid the foundation" for the next coach while others wonder why we at nebraska settled for mediocrity and called it good.
This is what I'm scared of.
What I'm hoping for is 10 years with 3 top ten finishes and at least one conference title and playoff appearance and never finishing outside the top 25 from here on out. Then a real foundation will be set, not a make believe one, for sustained success. He does that he's in the Mount Rushmore of nu coaches for a long time.
This is what I'm scared of.
What I'm hoping for is 10 years with 3 top ten finishes and at least one conference title and playoff appearance and never finishing outside the top 25 from here on out. Then a real foundation will be set, not a make believe one, for sustained success. He does that he's in the Mount Rushmore of nu coaches for a long time.
Anybody hung up about HCMR's age needs to think about Ben Carson is 2 years older than HCMR, Hillary Clinton is 5 years older, Donald Trump is 6 years older, and Bernie Sanders is 12 years older and all four of them are making a bid to run the friggen country for the next four years.
His age won't matter, not actually matter. It might be "used" as an excuse.
You are correct if he wins his age won't matter. But I don't see him staying more than 10 years even when winning. Seems like the type to bow out when both he and the program are at the top and 72 is old enough.
His age is irrelevant. His success will determine his longevity here. I think he will be coaching here for a long time.
I may be uninformed on the issue but when has coach Riley EVER been on top? If the answer is never, then how can you say that he seems like the type to bow out when he's on top. Or perhaps you define "top" different than I do.
Arguably, there are rumors that Mike bowed out at OSU when given the ultimatum to change coordinator(s) or get fired.
I think his past prior coaching experience is more indicative of future results than the wishful thinking of a new fanbase.
The win against UCLA was impressive. But in that game they did something they hadn't done all season and that was to commit to the run. Let's hope that continues next season.
I'm just saying in a best case scenerio he wins and will be here ten years. I have no basis other than my thoughts that he would want to leave on a high note and wouldn't drag on for 15 20 years at his age. None of us know.
For my other, much worse scenerio see my post above.
He needs to win period. No excuses. If he can't he needs to go and go soon. Honeymoon is over.
His age is totally irrelevant. Winning is what matters. And I think he will be fired after year four if he has more losing seasons or two or three 5 loss seasons. I think he will be given a chance to install his system with his QB. I think he will be given three more recruiting cycles to see who he can bring in.
I hope he succeeds. But right now I am not optimistic. Ohio State and Michigan will both be super talented beasts well into the future, with MSU only getting better. PSU continues to recruit well but Franklin may not be able to coach. If he can, then look out, they are a sleeping giant. I just don't see Riley recruiting well enough to keep us out of fifth place in the B1G pecking order. And fifth place is being optimistic.
I hope he succeeds. But right now I am not optimistic. Ohio State and Michigan will both be super talented beasts well into the future, with MSU only getting better. PSU continues to recruit well but Franklin may not be able to coach. If he can, then look out, they are a sleeping giant. I just don't see Riley recruiting well enough to keep us out of fifth place in the B1G pecking order. And fifth place is being optimistic.
Losing so many games this year helps him. The bar is now set incredibly low. Thus, any improvement in win totals will look like a huge success. If we win seven or eight next year there will be glee. If he won ten this year and then pulled out a seven win next season the masses would be upset. The lack of success this year will help him in the years to come.
You are really saying if he wins one more game next year there will be glee?
I agree this season sets the bar low, but i think there will still be expectations of 9 wins or more. And even a 9 win season won't make some happy.
There was much glee and satisfaction this year on this board. Why would that change with another win or two?
Show me the glee and satisfaction with 6-7. There isn't any. There is situational glee, like when we upset Michigan State or put together a great game against Minnesota, but I never saw a single poster saying "Yay! We went 6-7! I'm so happy!"
As usual, you are making stuff up. Just say what you said in your earlier post without the trolling. Go ahead and say if he wins 7-8 people will give him more time. But cut the crap that people will be filled with glee with a 7 win season next year. That's patently false.
I could have sworn you were on the board this fall. Must have been some other Tim.
Nice try. Yes I've been defending him. But again, to my question, point out my glee over 6-7. Everything is archived. Should be easy. But you can't because it never happened. But go ahead and fall back into your classic deflect position. You know, when you say something over the top and then get called out for it and don't have a leg to stand on?
You could be a good poster to this board if you would lose the trolling crap. Instead, we have to put up with your digs all the time, even when they are false.
So please don't respond to this unless it's to say, "you're right, I didn't see glee over a 6-7 record," or to show me where I or any other poster was gleeful this season over our record.
It is going to be a long off-season. I assume this thread will be repeated in various forms 300 times before fall practice starts.
The program is trending in the right direction. I think he is finding an offensive identity.. The UCLA game will be a spring board to the future. Let's hope Bo will be the last coach to be fired in the next 50 years.
Our game vs UCLA illustrated what we are capable of.
The good Tommy was in 4 qtrs.
We were physical.
Excellent play calling and adjustments.
The attitude of our coaches to the players.
We will have some knock downs, but we will know how to get up.
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Down 21 to 7 under Pelini, we get crushed, there is no comeback.
Our coach is carted off the field in bindings, spit mask & pissed pants.
The good Tommy was in 4 qtrs.
We were physical.
Excellent play calling and adjustments.
The attitude of our coaches to the players.
We will have some knock downs, but we will know how to get up.
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Down 21 to 7 under Pelini, we get crushed, there is no comeback.
Our coach is carted off the field in bindings, spit mask & pissed pants.
You prop up more strawmen than anyone on this board.
There was no "glee" by anyone regarding this season. Yes, many people found some positives and actually found some enjoyment watching their favorite team at times. But please stop with saying anyone was happy with and gleeful with a 6 win season.
Can we delete this thread? These stupid posts just hurt recruiting and perception. Especially when they aren't reality.
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I also think Frost's success at UCF will be a factor too. If he has a Tom Herman-type turnaround at UCF and Riley continues to struggle here, you know the "powers that be" are going to push for change.
I think being in the West division helps us here. If we recruit well and are coached well there is really only WI that should rival us for the division and they have restrictions on who they can recruit.
So I think we should expect to play for the confer title in most years that is a reasonable expectation. It then becomes a one game season and anything can happen. I also suspect Meyer at OSU will start experiencing problems, it seems as if his seems start to fracture from within after 4 years or so and we saw signs of that this year. Harbaugh will be tough at MI and PSU could be good but they have a long way to go. MSU will be good under Dantonio but we seem to play them well.
So I think the key is to dominate the West which is certainly very possible
Pretty sure he's bailed on yet another thread where he made stupid, nonsensical remarks that he got called out on and doesn't have a leg to stand on. He'll show up in another thread with some more ridiculousness; if he shows up again in this thread he'll wait a page or two so that people forget his claims.
How long does Riley have left if he wins? I don't know.
How long does Riley have left if he loses? I don't know.
In my powerless and meaningless opinion. He can stay as long as he wants if he is winning (i.e. 9 or more wins running average). If he wins 4 or less next year, show him the door before he runs our program into the *******.
Glee? I think that was an embellishment using that particular term. But, it looks pretty darn close enough to "glee" for someone to call it "glee" and not expect an ensuing argument.
How long does Riley have left if he loses? I don't know.
In my powerless and meaningless opinion. He can stay as long as he wants if he is winning (i.e. 9 or more wins running average). If he wins 4 or less next year, show him the door before he runs our program into the *******.
Glee? I think that was an embellishment using that particular term. But, it looks pretty darn close enough to "glee" for someone to call it "glee" and not expect an ensuing argument.
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I don't think the result that people expect are going to be achieved in 3-4 years -- I think those type of expectations aren't realistic in that time frame
Rileys first full full class will just turn upperclassmen in that time frame. My hope is that we have paved the road to begin to meet those expectations in years 4-8
If 99% of your posts are telling us what a great job the coaching regime is doing...you are gleeful. If you can't have some balance, what do you expect people to say?
Still don't see it... If this is directed at me, I have never said what a great job the coaching staff is doing... I have been optimistic but never said they are without their issues... I have said give them time, and I am pretty sure you have said the same thing. I have said in many different posts, especially after seeing the season unfold, that they need to do better. I have expressed satisfaction at times, when the situation warranted it, and also happiness after impressive victories. But again, I am talking about you saying we will be downright gleeful with 7 wins next year, and we were equally gleeful with the 6 win season this year. That's ridiculous and a fishing expedition. Just stop.