How Long Would You Give A New Head Coach To Turn It Around Here?

51stFan

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I truly believe if that is your criteria, UK would be doing essentially what they have done over the last 50 years, hire and fire coaches. It's extremely rare that a school lucks into that special once in a lifetime coach. I really think we have to be willing to be more patient and let a coach learn and grow on the job, or we are just going to rinse and repeat what we have been doing for the last 60 years. I do agree that you can tell very early on if you have hired one of those game changing coaches. But should that be the criteria for firing someone? Most coaches aren't game changers. If it is the criteria, not much will change from what we have seen. It may not change anyway, but what you are suggesting is what we have been doing for 50 years or more.

Kentucky is one of the more patient programs as far as letting coaches stink it up and keep a job. Should UT of kept Dooley a few more years? UofL keep Kragthorpe? Why should UK accept mediocrity more than others? Joker is really the only coach in the modern era thst UK didn't let suck more than others, but even then it took the fans saying enough is enough to make a change.

This team has quit on this staff in way too many games. You shouldn't be getting beat by a C-USA at home and be non- competitive in year 4 against unranked conference opponents. No reason to prolong the obvious and delay a chance at winning two or three more years. I'm getting too old to wait this junk out too many more years.
 

seccats04

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We've lost 8 out of our last 9. Choked and abused.

This staff sucks.

Schlarman in particular has done ZERO with decent depth and talent. We had Mike Summers begging to keep his job. That one initial, horrible move of getting rid of him was a harbinger of ****** decision to come.

This. I really wanted to retain Summers but I bet Neal Brown wanted to bring Schlarman with him from Troy. This could be the biggest reason Stoops gets fired because we haven't blocked anyone in the 4 years he's been here and now the defense sucks too.

Can you imagine what an innovative offensive coach like Phillip Montgomery could do with our weapons? It would be fun. We would still suck on defense but hell we've sucked on defense since I started following in the mid-Eighties.
 

acatnamedmyra

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Look at Meyer at Ohio State, Saban at Alabama, Bryant at Kentucky, Petrino at Louisville, Cursi at Kentucky: if you're good it doesn't take very long at all.
 

law1127

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Dec 20, 2004
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I'll agree, the most concerning problem with a Stoops ,is the players repeatedly quitting on him! There is a serious disconnect between players and coaches,when the players quit and go thru the motions,playing without enthusiasm and intensity! Good coaches inspire players to play above their perceived limits and abilities! Not happening here at UK! Wished Stoops had been the answer,but results show failure!
 

dallasg23

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With our current roster. No more than 3 years. And that's just to find some big nasties for the trenches. If they can find that then we have a halfway decent ball team
 

Glenn Fohr

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A true head coach could do it in two. Look at Franklin, Petrino, and others for starters.
 

Chuckinden

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Too many variables to consider, but I've always believed improvement should be made each year and the 4th yr be a deciding factor to decide this guy is a keeper or we will give him one more year. If it's not better after year 5, he has to go. These guys are making too much money to hang around showing poor results.
 

UK_fan_41102

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This team has quit on this staff in way too many games. You shouldn't be getting beat by a C-USA at home and be non- competitive in year 4 against unranked conference opponents.

This right here says it best for me.
Does getting beat by a C-USA team at home and curb stomped by a Florida team in year 4 show progression?