It's a fact Stud, not a defense
How Penn State distributed $18.4M in Revenue Sharing
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Move on then. Facts are facts. What part is defending a statement of truth when it’s not an opinion? I’m not happy at all
With the situation in Iowa city, but how in the f- - - does one of the most storied programs in wrestling not get help from its university. Up until this year men’s basketball should have been getting nothing with that knot head coach we had before.
Show your math please. Justify your hypothetical assumptions as well.
I don't get why someone assumes the amount allocated in that table is an incremental increase that only covers above 9.9 OR assumes PSU was limited to 30 scholarships in that number.
For the record, 35 rostered for 2024-25 on PSU Sports website.
You can assume each starter (divide by only 10). I won't because I understand full scholarships were requested of the AD, and the present roster wasn't limited to 30.
Yours looks like a troll-like hypothetical "could" to fan the HR flames to me. Carry on.
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30 scholarships is the max according to the settlement is my understanding
Except current athletes remained grandfathered per the settlement. 30 is roster cap. PSU had 35 rostered at the start of 2024-25 (for which the dollar amounts applied).
Maybe double-check your understanding?
Show me where settlement states scholarship limit vs firm roster cap without grandfathered in athletes.
So, justify dividing $1.4+M by 10 and posting that "could" on here?
Do you actually think that is what Cael is doing?
Based on what?
It's clear you're an equal opportunity troll. Carry on.
Why is that and what can we as fans do to change that?
I think we should all be sending Beth emails of our disappointment in this, if it is indeed a fact. What else can we all, as wrestling fans do to change this, it’s really concerning.
I have seen this board report, many times, that Iowa wrestling is so connected that they were giving out $2M in revenue share? Which is it?
I‘m with Whitedog on this- if PSU is giving out more, its a good excuse for how PSU is cheating or something, and an excuse for T&T to continue mediocrity.
Only newly assigned athletic scholarships up to 2.5M in value count against the cap. The scholarships that already existed do not.
I remember reading Beth allocated the basketball program an extra million this year to get McCollum’s program up and running. If true, that’s clearly paid off.
Wonder if that million will be going to wrestling or a combination of sports going forward. Football will always get theirs since they generate the most revenue.
Franklin buyout went from 49 million to just 9 million after he signed with V Tech. The school could give him the 9 upfront or pay it out over time until 2031
Where did that table say the $1.4m amount represents the capped dollar amount? I fail to see it.
Is that what you're implying? Based on what?
Data is not equivalent to information.
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I don't know anything about the nuances here, or anyone's intent, but I didn't take his post to mean anything more than the "could". Math is hard for some, so his 1.4M/10 was useful context for some in this discussion. Unless it is pubic info what every rostered wrestler gets from rev share, speculation is the best we can do. If all equal, $40k for each (seems unlikely), if only divided among 10 starters, $140k for each of them (also seems unlikely). Truth somewhere in between?? And then NIL on top for some.
It's an average of the starters . And you say that's not what he's doing based on what? Two can play that game. You will argue with a wall have fun with the wall 98
Not wrong all . I was giving an average per starters. Believe me I know all about rev share . You guys have no clue what I know and the conversations I'm involved in
In other words, a baseless assumption.
Listen to Cael's words. Look at past scholarship totals for PSU before NIL revenue sharing. Ask "What is consistent?"
The University's allowed wrestling scholarships were 10.81 for 2024-25, but somehow there was a 9.9 limitAs were yours. Time to stop responding to you it's pointless.
Once again you don't understand.how things work. Go read up and learn a few things maybe put down a lunch. Showing 10.8 isn't an issue
who are you, my comment had nothing to do with you, go away turd
I never said above 9.9 wasn't allowed. Simply pointing out 9 9 as an assumption is erroneous, as is 30 scholarships for 2024-25..
Divide $1.45 by 25. It will be closer to the truth of $58k associated with funding incremental scholarships. So predominantly funding scholarships. But feel free to believe the revenue sharing was in the form of big bags of cash to starters.
I hope you've convinced all here that's the case.
Yet you did in the very next post.As were yours
Just can't help yourself.
I'm talking about your original post with no context sill you keep up ffs
Fans ought to be reaching out to the administration instead of spending all their time complaining about the coaches because there isn't a coach in the world that's going to win if the admin treats wrestling like gymnastics. This is scary information for the future of Iowa wrestling.
Then move on and choose a different program you annoying f***
The rest of the money up to 21 million went into scholarships.
Cael has said his goal is to increase scholarships and to not play the NIL game. Those efforts are independent of the NIL money
I don't think that $1.4 million amount includes scholarships. The total amount at college is allowed to give is $21 million and they can distribute it via scholarships and NIL.
I don't think that is true. Cael has stated that his focus is on raising money for scholarships. He may have gotten some scholarship money from thE AD but nowhere near 30. All his scholarship efforts are completely separate from the ADs money.
Sure $1.45M for a roster of 35 (then add the 10.8 scholarships given in 2024-25).
Then you assume how the monies were split up.
I understand PSU is giving money amounts to be scholarship equivalents, as that is what Cael ask for will be getting from the AD, Kraft. 30 equivalent scholarships (the new roster hard limit) using NIL revenue sharing, as needed.
Others choose to allow others to infer the NIL revenue share is given only among starters.
Still others argue there was no NIL revenue share vs other NIL monies, because they know and talked with someone who has been dealing in NIL since day one.
NIL money is different from revenue sharing money though. Schools get to pick between scholarships and revenue share but yes they can still give full rides to however many and do NIL separate.
Who said the $1.45M represents "bags of cash?"
The Penn State wrestling program clearly got to 2 forms of payment:
(1) $1.45M in total from the school
(2) Money from boosters for their "name, image and likeness." The grand total paid out here to the entire PSU wrestling program is anyone's guess.
If you care to disclose, what was the grand total from boosters and how does that compare to Penn State, OK State, etc?