How should Carolina navigate Sellers and the portal?
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If he wants to walk, wish him well. He deserves no more money and probably deserves less than what he is set to get.
I would like to see another option where his NIL is contingent upon performance, not paid up front. Jamarcus Russel says hi.
That is against the NIL rules. Payment can't be tied to performance. This is why players look like they don't care much on the sideline after they screw up.
Id tell him and his people up front that we’d like to keep him but if we do we’ll be expecting 100 percent of a football player that wants to win games for our university. If he balks, bye. If he half asses it after we keep him, to the pine he goes. I’d like to keep him, but wouldn’t be upset if we don’t.
I'd show him and "his people" his stats from '24 and his stats from '25 and I'd tell them we will reduce what we pay him by the percentage his results dropped. If he doesn't like it, I'd tell him good luck in the portal, every other team has access to these same numbers.
There should be a standard formula for calculating net NIL value. If a team has a losing record and their star NIL hire is generating piss poor stats, the school should have the option to renegotiate what they're paying him, if performance based bonuses aren't allowed.
I don't want you guys negotiating for us. We won't have a team. I would hope your message would be more tactful than you are coming across here. "Him and his people?" Also, if you want to reduce Sellers' pay, which would probably be a non-starter, what is your back-up plan. Woods? Noland? A guy out of the portal?
A reference to his comment after the Clemson game. When asked about his future, he said he'd have to talk to "his people".
I know you were hoping for something else, but this one is very benign.
I wasn't hoping for anything. I was just referring to how your view to what you would say was coming off. Reducing his pay, Showing him his negative stats, etc. If that is how you are going to come off, just let him walk. You don't enter a negotiation with someone you want to lead your team next year. You guys were coming off like you were mad at him. If that is your attitude, that's okay, but you just let him walk.
‘His people’ came from HIM, not me. Yeah, I’ve seen enough to recognize that Cutter Wiods with a running back and an OC would do just fine, thank you. As I said before, he damn sure wouldn’t run out of bounds well inside the marker on fourth down in the last minute of a game we were trying to win.
SURE you weren't.
But now you know its a quote from him. So you can relax. Maybe calm down enough to look at which poster actually posted which comment.
You can relax. I was just saying you don't need to be anywhere near the negotiating table. Whatever else you think I was implying comes from your imagination. I am sure you thought I may be referring to race, but in this case I was not. In this case, I was talking about tactfulness so you don't end up making the player walk away because you were plain rude.
So, you saw that in all of 5 passes. That is as bad as the people thinking Sellers was the answer after he threw one pass against Furman. SMDH.
And I dont believe you at all about what you were implying, given your history. You and I both know you were salivating over that one.
Now, read the rest of my post where I mention you should figure out which poster actually posted which post. Because you keep addressing me over something someone else said.
I also find it very funny that you still cant figure out the quote function. Its really not that difficult. At least not for the rest of us.
How many sacks? How many sacks on 2nd and 3rd down? How many sacks when we are in fg range?
Played qb myself; was a better baseball player which is what got me thru school, but a ball room dancer doesn’t need to see three shows of dancing from a ball room dancer to recognize good ball room dancing. Expect him to be Joe Montana, no. Expect him to be effective, yes.
And how many sacks for 10+ yards? Heck, how many for 15+ yards. Sellers didn't just take a lot of sacks this year, he took a lot of NASTY sacks.
Those numbers were not included in his stat page from ESPN.
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First, I'd invest in offensive and defensive lineman. Former Panther's GM, Dave Gettleman talked about the importance "hog mollies" or big, physical, powerful lineman. How much does it cost to attract and retain five offensive lineman and four defensive lineman? Georgia and Ohio State cannot sign (pay) all of them.
Not doubting your athletic resume. However, I think this is one part frustration with Sellers and one part wishful thinking when it comes to Woods. Assessing the Quarterback position is one of the hardest things you can do when it comes to football and you definitely can't do it in Eleven (the correct amount of passes Woods threw this year) passes all of which were check downs in garbage time. You've never seen him throw the ball downfield. Never seen him throw a deep out. The truth is we know nothing about Woods or Noland. If you are saying, I would rather start over than continue with Sellers. I can buy that. However, none of us know anything about Woofs except that he was successful QB in HS. Dakereon Joyner did that.
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Not to belabor the point but woods did throw a couple of money out routes also; not deep, but chain movers, and as Doty and sellers to a lesser degree demonstrated that is not necessarily an easy thing. What I look for is getting it out quickly (confidence) which woods does (Shaw struggled early with this, not enough confidence to to pull the trigger), enough zip to get it there on time, and accuracy. Those three in tandem usually show effectiveness pretty quickly. But that’s neither here nor there; I would rather have a committed and enthusiastic sellers but chief, we did NOT have that this season. Whatever his thought process was it was NOT to win football games. If that’s what we’re going to get back, I’m comfortable enough from what I’ve seen from Woods to move forward and I readily admit he’s not a put the team on his shoulders guy, I said that. But give him a running back and an OC and I’m comfortable Woods can move the sticks.
I wish he would go pro. Frees up a bunch of NIL money. Some others can go pro and won’t bother me at all. Free up more money that we can spend. That’s the game now, money and how you spend it. I’d rather play the long game even if it affects next year. But I think it could help next year. The guys need to go ahead and make their decisions so we have the money available. Don’t like this system, but you have to maximize it , like it or not. For the doubters who say who wants to come here, the answer is money. Signed a good freshman class with no defections, so kids do want to come. I’d rather have money to pay for the future, especially based on Sellers performance this year. Glad to have him back if he chooses, but not worried if he doesn’t.
The kid threw for 72 yards total. Short checkdowns. We know nothing about him facing pressure. Nothing. You are just hoping. I know I am in the Sellers camp, but you know how long it took for me to get there. 10 games into 2024. During the Missouri come back. I know some of you guys are frustrated with how this season went. I am frustrated. However, we do have a guy on the roster where we have a window what his ceiling can be. All these other guys have is stars beside their name. Until they get out there in the heat of an intense battle, I don't believe it. If Sellers were to leave, II would throw some money at Sam Leavitt (Arizona State transfer) before throwing Woods out there.
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Have to take your word on Leavitt, I’m still not wrapping my head around portal and transfer game yet. Old school.
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Oh, I think he can win 5 or 6 games. Maybe.
But he has proven himself now. Two years of starting and we know what he brings. And its enough for me to want to give someone else a chance.
He is an OK QB. Based on his performance this season, he does not deserve more money. If he then wants to leave....BYE. If he turns into an all star NFL QB, then it's the coaching.
Beamer is squarely on the hot seat. I don't see him going into next year without a QB that has some experience of some kind. It's either Sellers or the portal based on the circumstances.
I would like to see him with some good coaching and an OL to go with some talent around him.
