How to handle the death of someone you don't like

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Well they were libertarian, by definition. Seeking to establish a state that protected its people from the government and give freedom to its people.

Utopia? Libertarians don’t base Any of their principles on a utopian society. That’s more socialism/communism.

There’s crazies in every party lol. Not sure what your point there is. Hell the democrats just got a dementia patient elected president 😂
The two-party system is flawed. No doubt. As far as a third party alternative, Libertarian isn’t it. I’ve read their platform bullet list multiple times. It’s a slippery slope.

Take business deregulation. I’m a capitalist, but not an amoral capitalist. - - - Laws protecting handicapped, minority, aging workers? Need them.
- Environmental/pollution? Need them.
- AntiTrust? Need them.

No thanks.
 
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Maybe you are evil?

Conservatives today are way more liberal than liberals were around the time Rush was born. I wouldn't go so far as to call you evil, definitely incompetent and unjustifiably arrogant though. I also wouldn't call you liberal.

You're something else.
 
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The two-party system is flawed. No doubt. As far as a third party alternative, Libertarian isn’t it. I’ve read their platform bullet list multiple times. It’s a slippery slope.

Take business deregulation. I’m a capitalist, but not an amoral capitalist. - - - Laws protecting handicapped, minority, aging workers? Need them.
- Environmental/pollution? Need them.
- AntiTrust? Need them.

No thanks.
If the Libertarians got what they wanted the USA would basically be an anarchist state.
 

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I’m sure you were singing praises for Osama Bin Laden when he died 🙄
But I'm going to say there's a difference between say....Hitler, Bin Laden, Timmothy McVeigh....than Rush Limbaugh.

Rush didn't hurt anyone...he said what he thought....some found it amusing....some hated him....some loved him....some ignored him.

I mean Mike Tyson raped someone...yet he is a public teddy bear now...but Limbaugh never really hurt anyone. Did he say offensive and crude things....yeah...but a lot of famous people have and have said worse...yet they were loved when they died...
 
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It's not about beliefs, it's about behavior. It was his constant belittling and attacking and identifying of other Americans not as companions with differences in opinion or as ideological rivals but as ENEMIES. The very thing that post I was responding to was about. The very thing you now pretend to care about while defending a man who made an entire career out of it.
False, it is about beliefs and the behavior of many of the left that brings out the behavior of many on the right or verse visa. (Yes I know). To be blind by the hate and vitriol being spewed by the left as well shows you as a partisan hack.
 
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If the Libertarians got what they wanted the USA would basically be an anarchist state.
If it was “pure” libertarianism, I could see that.

I have a friend that voted libertarian (well-to-do white male—surprise). I went down the laundry list of beliefs from their website: https://www.lp.org/platform. He agreed partially with it. Then really he must be an “issues” voter. “Libertarian” SOUNDS like a nice alternative from D or R, but in fact it’s nuts.

I’ve never met a pure libertarian I’ve liked.
 

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If it was “pure” libertarianism, I could see that.

I have a friend that voted libertarian (well-to-do white male—surprise). I went down the laundry list of beliefs from their website: https://www.lp.org/platform. He agreed partially with it. Then really he must be an “issues” voter. “Libertarian” SOUNDS like a nice alternative from D or R, but in fact it’s nuts.

I’ve never met a pure libertarian I’ve liked.
Libertarian-ism is a religion of peace!!

But it's just people that don't want to make up their minds
"...oh yeah I hate government....but we need a big military and police and schools and fire and social security isn't bad either..."

I remember talking to me conservative friend telling me he was voting libertarian because it was a moral alternative to Trump...I started reading things about cutting entire agencies, no safety regulations for food/drinks, no enforcement for military/immigration....and I told them that I'd take an entire government of Trump's over Libertarian's being in charge....I'm a liberal...but at least a moderate GOP person just wants to cut spending on some programs rather than just eliminate them entirely.
 

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I’m sure you were singing praises for Osama Bin Laden when he died 🙄
I don't remember Rush Limbaugh being a part of the greatest tragedy in our nation's history that killed thousands of innocent people. Also, anyone that would make a comparison with the two needs immediate admission into the nearest insane asylum. You will be on ignore from here on out.
Not wasting my time with someone like you for another second.
 

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If being a decent person who believes that people should respect the dead and the family makes me triggered, by all means, I'm triggered. He was neither Hitler nor Stalin.
I put them on ignore. This board needs trash like that removed for good. Anyone that takes that much joy in a man's death has issues well beyond normal.
These are unstable people that have something beyond just hatred.
 
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If being a decent person who believes that people should respect the dead and the family makes me triggered, by all means, I'm triggered. He was neither Hitler nor Stalin.
The best part is that Rush making offensive remarks about things is why people hated him, so they respond by making offensive statements about him.

Rush Limbaugh, living rent free in his enemies head from beyond the grave...with half his brain tied behind his back, just to make it fair. Live 24/7 on the Golden EIB Mic in HEAVEN.

I'm a liberal & I found Rush very entertaining....there aren't many that are that talented anymore. The 1990's you had guys like Rush & Howard Stern change the game in radio....Bill O'Reilly & Olbermann were entertaining in TV. Larry King was the true OG of news TV.

There aren't many that are entertaining like that anymore...Hannity is pure propaganda. Maddow was good at first, but she's pretty much a center-right Hannity pretending to be a liberal. Glenn Beck was on top...but fell hard after his 15 minutes of fame.

Tucker Carlson's show is pretty entertaining as a viewer...as I watch the shows for entertainment...because that's what they are tbh. Tucker really has had a great rebound after failing at CNN then MSNBC.

Alex Jones may have the most talent, but he's someone who truly uses his talent for evil....I wouldn't celebrate his death....but he really needs to make amends before he passes away.
 

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The common theme generally with these ppl...if I ask a lib did you ever listen to rush? Or when they throw a fit about ben shapiro writing an article in politico, or Tom cotton writing an oped in NYT. The answer is always no...they've never listened or read or anything. They just know they don't play for the correct team so they are an enemy.

So, when Jones makes his backhanded remarks like, oh Rush was hateful. Was he more hateful than Joy Reid, Keith Olbermann, or say tye young turks. Nope. But they aren't enemy's.

Jones is no different getting upset. He claimed Rush didn't deserve the medal of freedom. The medal requirements are "an especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors. I would say being the most listened to radio show in the country and saving AM radio qualifies...something a small local am radio guy should've recognized. But, again....enemy.
 
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The common theme generally with these ppl...if I ask a lib did you ever listen to rush? Or when they throw a fit about ben shapiro writing an article in politico, or Tom cotton writing an oped in NYT. The answer is always no...they've never listened or read or anything. They just know they don't play for the correct team so they are an enemy.

So, when Jones makes his backhanded remarks like, oh Rush was hateful. Was he more hateful than Joy Reid, Keith Olbermann, or say tye young turks. Nope. But they aren't enemy's.

Jones is no different getting upset. He claimed Rush didn't deserve the medal of freedom. The medal requirements are "an especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors. I would say being the most listened to radio show in the country and saving AM radio qualifies...something a small local am radio guy should've recognized. But, again....enemy.
I do agree that him crying about the medal of freedom was dumb....I mean Obama gave it to Ellen for crying out loud lol

Oh yeah, remember Ellen was cancelled for just talking to George W Bush...like 10 people on twitter get mad and then it becomes a national issue...
 

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The two-party system is flawed. No doubt. As far as a third party alternative, Libertarian isn’t it. I’ve read their platform bullet list multiple times. It’s a slippery slope.

Take business deregulation. I’m a capitalist, but not an amoral capitalist. - - - Laws protecting handicapped, minority, aging workers? Need them.
- Environmental/pollution? Need them.
- AntiTrust? Need them.

No thanks.
You’re definitely casting all libertarians into the Parks and Req Ron Swanson party. Just so we’re clear there is a difference between libertarians and anarchists (Ron Swanson is an anarchist, not a libertarian). Kinda how like not all republicans were into Bush Jrs big government policies. Or how all liberals aren’t crazy left wing extreme marxists. Or how all feminists aren’t the wild third wave group. You get the idea.

I get what you’re saying though. And like a lot like minded libertarians I do think the government has a role to play. But I also believe the government has gone way beyond its intended scope.
 
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You’re definitely casting all libertarians into the Parks and Req Ron Swanson party. Just so we’re clear there is a difference between libertarians and anarchists (Ron Swanson is an anarchist, not a libertarian). Kinda how like not all republicans were into Bush Jrs big government policies. Or how all liberals aren’t crazy left wing extreme marxists. Or how all feminists aren’t the wild third wave group. You get the idea.

I get what you’re saying though. And like a lot like minded libertarians I do think the government has a role to play. But I also believe the government has gone way beyond its intended scope.
I take it as...every election
32% are GOP that vote straight party
35% are Dems voting straight party(more registered Dems

Then there’s the 33% that are independent.

Now more Independent lean right...and they’re about 10% and they’re more reliable to show up.

Then there’s the 10% that lean dem, but aren’t as reliable to show up...they’ll show up for wave elections.

Then you got 13% that decide the election based on who shows up and who is popular. They’re generally center right...but just not reliable and fickle. No true beliefs. They’re the young/new voters, the disengaged voters, the trendy voters...
 
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I put them on ignore. This board needs trash like that removed for good. Anyone that takes that much joy in a man's death has issues well beyond normal.
These are unstable people that have something beyond just hatred.
Yeah, that's a ban worthy post honestly.
 
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You’re definitely casting all libertarians into the Parks and Req Ron Swanson party. Just so we’re clear there is a difference between libertarians and anarchists (Ron Swanson is an anarchist, not a libertarian). Kinda how like not all republicans were into Bush Jrs big government policies. Or how all liberals aren’t crazy left wing extreme marxists. Or how all feminists aren’t the wild third wave group. You get the idea.

I get what you’re saying though. And like a lot like minded libertarians I do think the government has a role to play. But I also believe the government has gone way beyond its intended scope.
I truly believe there is a difference of opinion about the role of government within the Libertarian ranks. My issue is with the hardcore beliefs some have.
John Stossel, who I can’t stand says “Feeling age discrimination looking for work? You should have worked harder when you were young”. Seriously WTF?!???
 
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If it was “pure” libertarianism, I could see that.

I have a friend that voted libertarian (well-to-do white male—surprise). I went down the laundry list of beliefs from their website: https://www.lp.org/platform. He agreed partially with it. Then really he must be an “issues” voter. “Libertarian” SOUNDS like a nice alternative from D or R, but in fact it’s nuts.

I’ve never met a pure libertarian I’ve liked.
I was a libertarian back in my college undergrad days until I realized it was an idiotic and nonsensical fairy tale.
 
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I don't remember Rush Limbaugh being a part of the greatest tragedy in our nation's history that killed thousands of innocent people. Also, anyone that would make a comparison with the two needs immediate admission into the nearest insane asylum. You will be on ignore from here on out.
Not wasting my time with someone like you for another second.
Thank you, snowflake.
 

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I was a libertarian back in my college undergrad days until I realized it was an idiotic and nonsensical fairy tale.

That's true... just like the "democratic socialism" you people were indoctrinated to believe in.

Won't work, can't work, doesn't work.
 

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I was a libertarian back in my college undergrad days until I realized it was an idiotic and nonsensical fairy tale.
False. First you say you were a repub then became a libtard now you were a libertarian but changed. Seems to me you are trying to paint yourself as someone who has done it all when it fact you paint yourself as someone who can't be trusted and will sell your soul to whoever is the flavor of the day.

Weak minded much?
 
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That's a common persuasion technique they like to use try.

"Hey, I used to be like you but then I evolved!" Look at me!

You evolved into being a complete fool, which is incidentally why you really hated Rush Limbaugh. He had a platform that called out your complete ignorance daily, arguments you failed to contend with and you couldn't cancel him no matter what you tried.
 

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Rush was a terrible human being. He’s solely responsible for the way this Country has a split in it right down the middle. Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, and most of Fox News are to blame as well. I don’t need to agree or disagree with everybody. But Rush made it personal because he didn’t like Bill Clinton. Why can’t we be civil any more? Because he made civility into a weakness. You had to be a hateful, divisive, one way sonofabitch to be in his club. Anybody that disagreed with him was immediately ridiculed and labeled. And it has continued on to this day. He invented “Hate” radio. Used a vast network to broadcast his hate speech to anybody that would listen. He spread ******** stories just Qanon. He went on the air for 4 hours a day and lied. He offered no one single bit of good or positive to society. He made it ok to be a “monger” of people. Now that he’s dead am I glad? Doesn’t matter, the damage he did while on this earth will shape this nation thru an entire generation. Me on the other hand, if my neighbor needs my help? I don’t ask him if he’s a dem or a Republican. I go help him. That’s what neighbors do. I tell people all the time, the Good Lord blesses you with 75-90 years on this Earth if you’re lucky. How you choose to spend that time is up to you. But if you believe in God do you think he’s happy with how you act? 99.8% of us are the same. It’s the .2% that use money as an influencer to spread the hate thats. In their heart. They do the work of the devil. There’s no other explanation for it.