Almost all of those turned out to be lies.
How will you react?
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What data are you looking at Gonzo? This is the main problem right here. You're taking the bait imo.
"appears to be an alarming trend of black men being killed by police"
seriously, this begs the question, have you even looked at data? Because I can almost guarantee by this statement you haven't. If you combine the data of black men killed by police with white men killed by police, and account for the crime statistics, you are far more likely to be shot by police being white.
And furthermore, a white man is far more likely to be attacked by a black man than a black is to whites, even thought they make up only 13-15% of the population (according to which scale you go by).
Seriously, I read your post and you're far from a dummy. I think you are too quick to jump too the side of younger positions and whatnot, but you're definitely capable.
Do some research so I don't have to go there. It never ends well. and if Prime MF sees this he's going to be borderlined banned. The data is easily and readily available. Do yourself a favor and look.
Not to mention this all started over "hands up don't shoot" in Ferguson, MO, which the Obama DOJ admitted was a lie.
I can't believe how many people, especially white people, buy into this narrative.
Oh wait, it's politically beneficial, never mind.
Back to the Darwinian theory.
BAI GAWD! I'll be on somebody like Michael Jackson on a Cub Scout!!!
People make bad arguments all the time, but freedom of expression protects "flawed logic" - because political opponents always describe each other's logic as "flawed logic", so if we didn't enjoy our first amendment rights, then the party in power could just silence every "offensive" argument from the other side, which we see in some European countries.
The beauty of it is that you never have to look over your shoulder when telling people that they're being ridiculous, even when they have a president on their side in office.
Well, except for SJWs. You do have to look over your shoulder with them, but that's because they're angry that the government doesn't censor for them and often try to take matters into their own hands.
I wouldn't stop watching, or rooting for my Cats, but whether it's one player or the entire team, if they pull a stunt like that I'll lose all respect for them. If you want to protest something, fine, but to do something like that during our national anthem is anti-American, and unpatriotic, IMHO. You're getting a free education, and an opportunity to play pro and make millions, all because this IS America.
To be honest i`ve had no control over how any of these kids were raised. I just expect them to come here and win basketball games. I do think it`s very disrespectful. I hope they will find some other way of getting their point across. But it wouldn`t stop me from rooting for them.
Terrific post sir. I am not a racist, never have been, but it's apparent, to those willing to look past the liberal lies being spread via the media, that they're trying to vilify all whites, and some of them are ignorant enough to fall for it.
Does racism exist? Of course it does, but I've seen MUCH more racism directed AT whites than I have towards blacks. Facts are facts; blacks commit many times more crimes than whites, and black on white crime is far and away much higher than white on black crime. Until the black community addresses this, and really they're the only ones who CAN, then this will continue.
This exactly. This is what I meant about not letting it happen. I didn't think he would allow for some huge distraction if possible and knowing that this is a thing right now he would head it off.
You only quoted part of my post. The latter part that you left off was very important
The overarching problem is, and has been for a long time, hate and division. It's not black or white but both...not gay or straight but both...hate comes in many forms and the sad fact is that our world today is spiraling down in hate and division.
freedom is a strange, paradoxical word.
Keep politics in a private setting, and as for the rituals that our country performs at sporting events, its meant to bring us together, not divide us. I just hope we believe that. That's all.
Keep politics in a private setting, and as for the rituals that our country performs at sporting events, its meant to bring us together, not divide us. I just hope we believe that. That's all.
I agree Bluecat43, and our current POS POTUS has divided this country so badly, and in such a way, that I'm unsure we can ever heal. Hatred is a tool, and it's being used to destroy our country.
I have read all of this, agree with some not with others. I have witnessed this on tv with the NFL and it made the blood boil. I pray we don't have this happen, I would not defend it, as I think it is wrong.
If you think Cal would have a problem with one of his players protesting you haven't been paying attention.
I love it when white people blame the black president for all the racism in our country...
And I'm perplexed as to why black people choose to completely ignore the thousands of black on black crimes and focus on police brutality. It would be like seeing a doctor for a sinus infection but completely ignore the fact you have stomach cancer.
There are tons of groups in communities that work tirelessly to make changes for the better...you clearly enjoy keeping your head in the sand when it comes to knowing such groups exist. Maybe they aren't successful, but your claim is just bunk.
But that's your choice in life. Ignorance works better for some folks in life.
I work in a major inner city with the youth. I also did a ton of free work for Cals charity even after he left. I can tell you first hand they largely ignore (people and politicians) the biggest problems in the city because A: it's politically beneficial to the politicians to ignore and not blame the people and B: the people don't want to blame themselves. Easier to blame the ghost of inequality, slavery from 150 years ago, and law enforcement. I mean, how easy is it to hate a cop.
Most of it is as simple as soft bigotry. White people wouldn't put up with 1/10th of these issues in their neighborhoods. But it goes back to the liberal mastermind Darwin. Different expectations for different groups. And the cycle just continues. But hell, it's politically beneficial if the problems never become solved. What if these same inner city communities started pointing the finger at the people in power of the last 80 years? We can't have that can we?
I added to it. Read it again.
The only people that want them to remain in their place are guys like you.
Tell me, do you believe in the theories of Darwin? Let's expand this comversation.
I'ver read enough of your garbage over time that I really don't care for such a conversation.
Oh no. No no of course not. Let's not expose your true racism for the world to see.
Actually jackass, the vast majority of my clients are black and I see the devastation from a front row seat. It's fools such as yourself who are completely clueless about the situation and take a myopic view of an alarming situation. The irony of your last sentence is truly rich.
I'll jump into this discussion.
The problem with the faddish refusal to stand for the National Anthem is that its premise is built on an opposition to oppression, oppression created by the hands of the state (directly or indirectly).
So what happens when there is racial equality in our nation? Who decides what it looks like and at one point have we as a nation arrived? Those are questions that I don't see addressed by anyone, including this NFL collective of the financially and socially elite. Also, what about other forms of oppression or abuse that have seemingly worked cooperatively with the state: drug abuse, violent media (which often depicts minorities as thugs and criminals), alcohol abuse, human trafficking, etc.? Do these individuals get to choose what quantifies as state-based subjugation and abuse?
On that note, if your premise of not standing for the national anthem is based upon state-correlated injustice, you probably won't ever stand if you follow that conviction to its core. Personally, the flag, to me, doesn't represent the state, but the people within the state, who have orchestrated great amounts of positive social change in our society. Kaepernick and his friends have it backwards, and unfortunately for them, their logic must be extended to any and all forms of nationally- correlated injustice if they want to retain a level of legitimacy within their argument.
The great irony is that we live in a country that allows (to a high degree) expression of thought in the form of refusing to stand for our national anthem or vocally criticizing our governing authorities. That in itself is extraordinary when one measures the present and historical comparisons of other nations. Perhaps our affluence has driven the present generations to a place where we've lost perspective on a global scale.
The problem with the faddish refusal to stand for the National Anthem is that its premise is built on an opposition to oppression, oppression created by the hands of the state (directly or indirectly).
So what happens when there is racial equality in our nation? Who decides what it looks like and at one point have we as a nation arrived? Those are questions that I don't see addressed by anyone, including this NFL collective of the financially and socially elite. Also, what about other forms of oppression or abuse that have seemingly worked cooperatively with the state: drug abuse, violent media (which often depicts minorities as thugs and criminals), alcohol abuse, human trafficking, etc.? Do these individuals get to choose what quantifies as state-based subjugation and abuse?
On that note, if your premise of not standing for the national anthem is based upon state-correlated injustice, you probably won't ever stand if you follow that conviction to its core. Personally, the flag, to me, doesn't represent the state, but the people within the state, who have orchestrated great amounts of positive social change in our society. Kaepernick and his friends have it backwards, and unfortunately for them, their logic must be extended to any and all forms of nationally- correlated injustice if they want to retain a level of legitimacy within their argument.
The great irony is that we live in a country that allows (to a high degree) expression of thought in the form of refusing to stand for our national anthem or vocally criticizing our governing authorities. That in itself is extraordinary when one measures the present and historical comparisons of other nations. Perhaps our affluence has driven the present generations to a place where we've lost perspective on a global scale.
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Wouldn't care except I'd have to hear lots of other people blabbering about it for months. It's a person's God given right to express their opinion one way or the other though...Thankfully we don't live under Putin's thumb.
It's not really extraordinary. You can do that in the vast majority of countries. The vast majority of countries have freedom too, meanwhile half of y'all can't even buy beer in the county you live in.
But here's the thing bro,
America gives you that position. So, you are allowed to speak up against something you don't like.
Is it supposed to be you're free--as long as you act how we want you to act? Because that's not free.
The soldiers who died in the countless wars to protect our freedom and liberties died so you could disagree with things and protest.
I think anytime you use your freedom, it should be viewed as a sign of respect. People act like you're shitting on the soldiers--but they died so that you could kneel.
And before it comes up--I'm white. I'm anti-social justice warrior ********. But I think that we're free to express whatever the hell we want.
All that said, I hope that there are no individual protestors. I don't care about their political views or their right to say it. I want Kentucky to win and win large, and we don't need the distractions.
As others said--I hope Cal puts something together group wise and then the team can move on.
If everyone wants to kneel, whatever, I'm good with it.
But please God, don't let Humphries be the only one kneeling for Aussie lives matter.
"ALL" of the racism? NO, I didn't say that, did I ? But if you, and your fellow libs,refuse to see how he's had many opportunities to help dampen the racism, then you're either being dishonest, or have an agenda. Him saying if he had a son he'd be like Travon Martin, despite the fact Martin was a thug, only fed the flames of anger of the blacks. No, there is in fact an agenda, and that agenda is to divide our people. You need look no further than George Soros; he's PAYING to have busloads of "PROTESTERS" driven to sites every time a black is shot by law enforcement; and of course we all know who Soros sides with in this despicable agenda: the far left Democrats.
These same folks refuse to acknowledge the fact that blacks overwhelmingly commit more crimes than any other race, so when a cop feels endangered by a suspect, and shoots the suspect, the blacks all begin the same old crap: "he was shot because he was black." Sadly, we have a lot of whites falling for this, but they're usually bleeding hearts just looking for something to moan about anyway.
Personally, I don't have a racist bone in my body, I judge people by their actions, not their skin pigmentation. Until blacks recognize they're pawns to the liberal Democrats, nothing will change.