Yes, anything after the 9.9 becomes NIL but it’s not NIL money they’re putting in their pocket if they are giving 30,000 NIL for scholarship money they have to pay for the school with her money so they’re actually not putting money in your pocket
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If they’re not a number one or two, they’re not a high target
Tyler Caldwell did a Trackwrestling interview a few years back and was asked what OSU looks for in a recruit. He said top PFP guys, love/live the sport, excellent student, team player.
Might not answer your original question, but it gives some insight. The love/live the sport was related to guys getting distracted once in college. The excellent student means possible academic $ and also helps the team GPA. As an example, I think Hickman has almost a 4.0 GPA.
Ok, but there has to be more to evaluating recruits, no?
Balmeceda wrestled in WNO, so he was top 2 at his weight. When he committed he was ranked #12 PFP in the 2019 class. In HS he could barely stand up after the first period. He'd get a lead and then hang on for the win.
Appreciate the insight Lee and all you do for the program, and glad to see you in here!
If I'm not mistaken, isn't Zo pretty close with Jax Forrest? Would love to see Jax come to OSU, with Lilledahl going to Penn State and already stacked room/recruiting classes coming for them, don't see him going there. I like our chances against the rest of the pack. Glad to hear Zo's kicking butt for us! Along with Perry and Caldwell, you'd have to think Coleman helps a lot with recruiting, he was bringing in some good recruits to NC.
Agree on bad luck, progress with club, portal willingness. We had a very good year with Transfer Portal, love to see it and John's comments about "waking up", maybe woke up a sleeping giant!
Also agree that Matscouts is the clear #1 in HS rankings, Willie & Co's track record is impressive, their HS coverage in general is second to none IMO. Appreciate you always keeping/updating a running list for us!
Hope Blair is right once again, Veazy would be an awesome pick up! As others have mentioned love not only his wrestling but his name, would be sick to yell that out at GIA!
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I wouldn’t say this just yet he will be at 41-49 so 125-33 is probably out of the question for JaX anyway you have to remember he’s only a sophomore he’s got two more years of high school possibly redshirting so you’re talking three more years of full gross
Character lifestyle love for wrestling if they have all that and they’re at one too it’s all there is to it
Those are big. Hopefully OSU has gotten better at identifying those traits. I looked at the 2017-21 recruiting classes to see who was a top 15 PFP recruit and also wrestled at WNO (so top 2 at their weight).
-Fix was #1 PFP when he committed
-Wittlake was #2 when he committed to PSU, still top 10 when he flipped to OSU
-Plott was #4 but didn't wrestle at WNO due to injury
-Ferrari was #1 but didn't wrestle due to injury
Besides those 4 there was Balmeceda plus...
#9 PFP
#5
#15
#15
#4
#6
None of the other 7 AA'd. Only 1 made the blood round, 4 didn't make the starting lineup.
Plott has one more and a redshirt. Surber has one more and a redshirt. Doucet has two more.
I’d bet on Iowa. Seems like he liked them a lot. Glad he changed his mind.
That’s fairly disturbing. Glad we figured it out
He said he had it all planned out and was going to announce it after the hof duals. Called Chris Perry and woke up the next day ready to commit
I would say that the next few years are going to be very important for OSU wrestling. At the moment, we are still playing with house money, but that will run out fast. When our top wrestlers in state, especially Stillwater, are going somewhere else, that is not good.
Told y’all - john grabbed the brinks truck.
You guys are doing fine. Caldwell and Perry do a great job of recruiting. It’s like Blair/Lee said - have to get guys willing to make good lifestyle decisions.
I do agree. It’s discomforting to be back into general population but we are moving in the right direction. We just have to be patient, and that advice is for me as much as anyone. We have a history, a culture and an expectation that others don’t have. We are Oklahoma State!
Did @blair2000 @JAY45 @leecothran or anyone else ever do a breakdown of what ‘25 might look like at each weight?
I’m sure we’ll have transfers incoming and outgoing by that time but with what we know I’d like to see some guess on weights
I’m sure we’ll have transfers incoming and outgoing by that time but with what we know I’d like to see some guess on weights
I think the 25 lineup will look mostly the same as this year. Hughes will likely be 133. Maybe Witcraft. Find a transfer for 165. Somebody is going to have to go up to 157. Carroll or Doucet at 285.
Honestly Travis is looking pretty good at 157. Id be fine with him manning the spot until Lockett gets here.
Carroll, please
2024-2025 125 Spratley soph. 133 Hughes Fr. 141 Jamison soph. 149 Williams soph. 157 Travis jun. 165 Portal again. 174 Thompson soph. 184 Plott sen. 197 Surber sen. Hwt Carroll. Yes it needs to be Carroll or we have had a real recruiting miss by our staff. This is a potential trophy team especially with good development. This year if we get in the top 10 we are doing fairly good if we finish in the top 6 we will have had an excellent year. I really hope to see improvement with Carroll in the 2nd semester.
I guess the small question I have is… why aren’t we addressing the 165 issue? At least long term. Do none of our recruits project to 165? If not, I guess I don’t get why we didn’t give Sommer a shot
Well ideally we would bring in a transfer at 165 that has a few years of eligibility left.
Of these wrestlers the best wrestler will likely be Dustin Plott. If everything goes our way the next 3 best wrestlers will be our 2023 recruiting class Thompson, Hughes and Carroll. Next best for us would be if 1 or 2 of the sophomores really come thru of Williams, Spratley and Jamison. Surber could be an All American. 2025 -2026 could be where we challenge Penn St. if our recruiting and development is excellent because Sakamoto and Merrill could be high All Americans as redshirt freshmen. This with the 2023 class which could include Robb at 184, and also Spratley 125, Williams 149 and Jamison 149 will be our 1st chance to challenge Penn. St. in the future. Then we would have Lockett at 57 most likely or 65. This lineup would not have 1 senior in it and so 2026-2027 could be special also but we would need the breaks and development to win. But it is possible. Many of us old timers would like to see this forum change its name before we are gone.
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Hughes looks pretty big to hold 133 very long
By 25-26 I see Hughes taking 141 from Jamison after a great year at 133 the year before. That would leave Jamison and Williams competing for 149. If Spratley does not jump a level I think we should recruit over him soon ( either portal or a top high schooler).
25-26 was what I was actually asking about earlier. I’m interested to see where we see them