Hubris

MCC_Cat

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I cringed when Buie declared himself one of the top 2 players in college basketball after the Purdue win. Now the team is all eating humble pie.
 
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Buie scored 23 shooting 8/17 with 5/6 on free throws, had 6 rebounds, 8 assists, a steal, and a shocking 3 turnovers.

I'm not convinced he was the problem last night.
 

MCC_Cat

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I just think it's important for everyone on the team (including Buie, our star) to stay humble and hungry, and to me it was way too early in the season to make such a declaration. When you make a big statement like that it draws a lot of attention on an individual instead of a team.
 

PurpleWhiteBoy

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I just think it's important for everyone on the team (including Buie, our star) to stay humble and hungry, and to me it was way too early in the season to make such a declaration. When you make a big statement like that it draws a lot of attention on an individual instead of a team.
There's no doubt that Buie declaring himself the #1 or #2 college player in America was a bit silly.
A lot of the time guys will say things that are off by an order of magnitude.
If he had said "It was a battle of the two best players in the Big Ten" nobody would really object.
But we're not the best league and NU hasn't played many really good teams outside the league in several years, so it comes off as blowing smoke. The one time we faced a top team (UCLA) Buie didn't earn raves.

I'm sure Boo will be seeking some payback against Maryland's Jahmir Young for last year's fiasco.
The game against Ohio State's Bruce Thornton will be interesting as well.

Boo is our best player, but it might help to let his teammates be the ones saying it.
 

Purple Pile Driver

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I just think it's important for everyone on the team (including Buie, our star) to stay humble and hungry, and to me it was way too early in the season to make such a declaration. When you make a big statement like that it draws a lot of attention on an individual instead of a team.
C’mon. Who really cares what he says? I doubt the best players on our opponents are using this as bulletin board material. In fact, I doubt anyone even remembers it besides our fans.

I think confidence often seperates the good players from the great players. Boo is not a machine like everyone wants him to be, but he almost always backs up what he says. If he doesn’t back it up, he has to account for that, but it has no bearing on the outcome of the last game or any future games.

Greg Newsome was just as brash and you know what he had a right to be.
 

Hungry Jack

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No point in us busting Boo's balls here. I am sure he has contemplated his public pronouncements and will be better for it. These guys are all so young. Look at Trump and Biden. They are both around 80, and say all sorts of dumb stuff.
 

GatoLouco

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Speaking of busting balls, my Purdue fan co worker just showed up with the following video playing on his cell phone. Well played sir, well played, after I sent him a message, right after we won against them, with a single word: "Meow".

 
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techtim72

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You know, after watching that video, if NU had to lose to someone I am glad it was Chicago State. They are working hard, man. Hats off.
 

loyolacat

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They do play hard....and I think BB got into some mano e mano with a couple of the CSU players as they gave him all he could handle...several times up court in the second half he got a pick at the top of the key and then it was man to man all the way to the basket...BB won some and CSU won some. What puzzled me was that in portions of the first half NU worked the ball well and got some really good looks...in the second half it was a TON of dribbling and going to the hoop.....not sure why it occurred . My gut tells me that in-game the team and staff had a hard time saying these guys are good and just decided our best guy could beat their best guy. As for BBs comment it will probably earn him every guards best defensive and offensive effort the rest of the year. But I agree if you had to lose good for CSU as I said the same thing to myself at Loyola as I prepared myself for Loyola to lose to them which they would have if CSU didnt kind of self destruct on their own in the last 5 minutes.
 

techtim72

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I thought the same thing at the time - like at a point into the second half NU had thrown their best shot and these guys just wouldn't go away - and all of a sudden NU realized these guys were for real and definitely could win. At that point NU lost team confidence and started playing carelessly and without a plan. They played that way for a few minutes until Boo stepped back in and put it back on his shoulders.
 

Ilvolino

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Loss to another bad team, I’ll get concerned. For now, not so much.
I wonder why Ryan Langborg was not more involved in the Second half. He was shooting well in the first half and then was almost invisible in the late minutes of the game when all we did was to have BB drive to the basket.
 

PurpleWhiteBoy

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I wonder why Ryan Langborg was not more involved in the Second half. He was shooting well in the first half and then was almost invisible in the late minutes of the game when all we did was to have BB drive to the basket.
Langborg definitely twisted or rolled his ankle at some point in the 2nd half.
Collins didn't appear to notice because it happened on a play that went straight into a timeout, but Langborg limped back to the bench, sat down and then stayed in the game.
 

No Chores

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I think sticking with the small lineup for most of the second half was a significant error. It enabled Chicago State to play all of our guys one on one without having to worry about a big man or two at or near the rim.
 

Ilvolino

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Langborg definitely twisted or rolled his ankle at some point in the 2nd half.
Collins didn't appear to notice because it happened on a play that went straight into a timeout, but Langborg limped back to the bench, sat down and then stayed in the game.
I saw that but Ryan did not ask for any medical attention. He just sat down during the time out and as you correctly state kept playing. I thought he was OK but maybe not
 

NJCat

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I think sticking with the small lineup for most of the second half was a significant error. It enabled Chicago State to play all of our guys one on one without having to worry about a big man or two at or near the rim.
Offense was not the problem in that game. Just couldn't defend.
 

SDakaGordie

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Dec 29, 2016
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I felt like when Buie missed that driving wide open dunk attempt, he and the team really got deflated. (I also actually wonder it if hurt Buie a bit, as he landed awkwardly). That deflation was more evident on defense, as we never could create more defensive energy.
 

DaCat

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I felt like when Buie missed that driving wide open dunk attempt, he and the team really got deflated. (I also actually wonder it if hurt Buie a bit, as he landed awkwardly). That deflation was more evident on defense, as we never could create more defensive energy.
Yes wished Boo had settled for a boring layup on that play, as well as the team making a few more free throws. It all gets magnified in a 2 point loss.
 

NCPurplecat

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The schedule breaks and exams didnt help. Lack of a true PF hurt in the Chicago State game and will hurt. BB and Martinelli play hard and are doing great but we are not getting consistent inside play. Trayce Jackson Davis for IU carried his team. NU wins over IU were great as they overcame that guy a couple times but NU would be so solid with a true PF.
 

CatJones

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Speaking of busting balls, my Purdue fan co worker just showed up with the following video playing on his cell phone.
This is an excellent alma mater sung beautifully. The guy playing the piano has a cloth mask not covering his nose, I guess for optics rather than medical reasons. But he's a musician not a scientist.
 

Gladeskat

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I was shocked when NU was losing but then happy when Chicago State won. NU beat #1 Purdue and then let a hustling Chicago State beat their asses. One of the great lessons in sports is to always take an opponent seriously or you get beat by a hustling team. Effort beats talent when talent doesn't make the effort. Hats off to Chicago State!

That was hammered into us in high school by a once-upset, paranoid HS football coach. He wasn't a standard, "You beat these guys or you're gonna run 'til you drop!" type of coach. He was a, "You're gonna run 'til you drop' because you're gonna beat these guys . . . [or else"] type of coach. Nobody else I knew in coaching agonized over losses and potential upsets more than this guy. We knew that. I'm sure falcon87 has heard stories of Rex's upset losses, the team's fatal sin of overconfidence and discussing Homecoming dates, and their descent into the fiery hell of losing. Thank God, I never experienced it myself in high school.

The next lesson is - how do you respond?
 

Hungry Jack

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I was shocked when NU was losing but then happy when Chicago State won. NU beat #1 Purdue and then let a hustling Chicago State beat their asses. One of the great lessons in sports is to always take an opponent seriously or you get beat by a hustling team. Effort beats talent when talent doesn't make the effort. Hats off to Chicago State!

That was hammered into us in high school by a once-upset, paranoid HS football coach. He wasn't a standard, "You beat these guys or you're gonna run 'til you drop!" type of coach. He was a, "You're gonna run 'til you drop' because you're gonna beat these guys . . . [or else"] type of coach. Nobody else I knew in coaching agonized over losses and potential upsets more than this guy. We knew that. I'm sure falcon87 has heard stories of Rex's upset losses, the team's fatal sin of overconfidence and discussing Homecoming dates, and their descent into the fiery hell of losing. Thank God, I never experienced it myself in high school.

The next lesson is - how do you respond?
This is how kids become adults.

Sports may be the last bastion of meritocracy and that-which-does-not-kill-you-makes-you-stronger pragmatism that [REDACTED] . Thank god for sports.
 

Gladeskat

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This is how kids become adults.

Sports may be the last bastion of meritocracy and that-which-does-not-kill-you-makes-you-stronger pragmatism that [REDACTED]. Thank god for sports.

It's creeped into sports as well. Fitz loved to hand out participation trophies for letters and other recognition. By doing so, he diminished the value of a letter earned. I'll bet NU NIL program will be equitable except for a few star players. Same as it was back in the day of hundred-dollar handshakes, except perhaps the payout is larger. No bagmen, though, or at least fewer in the SEC.
 

xxxbobxxx

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This is how kids become adults.

Sports may be the last bastion of meritocracy and that-which-does-not-kill-you-makes-you-stronger pragmatism that [REDACTED] . Thank god for sports.
Until the participation trophy, everyone graduates crew arrives…

God love old skool sports.

#rubsomedirtinit