Human “Intelligence”

The-Hack

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I’ve read that researchers believe some porpoises have learned thousands of words.

So, if they can understand what we are saying, but we can’t understand what they are saying, wherein lies the “intelligence” in that relationship?
 

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I’ve read that researchers believe some porpoises have learned thousands of words.

So, if they can understand what we are saying, but we can’t understand what they are saying, wherein lies the “intelligence” in that relationship?

Who figured out that they can understand us?
 
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They’ve figured out all kinds of stuff

 
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It seems like most animals besides fish and reptiles can learn some human word meanings but the only animals we can figure out are the ones that mimic us like parrots. Plus do we even know if any animal species really has a language and not just a bunch of random sounds accompanied with body movements?

We didn't evolve to understand them possibly because we are the dominant race on this planet or we just lack the ability to do it. I'm guessing it is the former because if we ever were invaded by a far superior alien race, I'm sure we would be forced to learn their language. Invaders usually force the indigenous beings to learn their language.
 

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I don't believe a dolphin would know thousands of words. I do believe you could teach a dolphin to do commands on cue by rewarding it with a fish. I also believe that no government funded study would ever be definitive, especially ones with EPA money involved.
 
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For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.
 

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Plus do we even know if any animal species really has a language and not just a bunch of random sounds accompanied with body movements?

I read of a study that took the thousands of sound porpoises make, and the frequency of their uses matched that of human languages.

But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.

I suspect the “random noises” scientists have noted, if correctly translated would be something like: “A . . . B . . . . C . . . . D . . . . E . . . .F . . . . G...................

H . . . . I . . . . J . . . .K . . . . L . . . . . N . . . . O . . . .P......”
 

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Be honest OP, you started this thread just for the halibut.

Fishing for answers on Derby Day beats horsing around!

Some folks on this thread need to cut bait!

I’m headed back to the FB Forum, where “tackle” won’t be used as a pun!
 
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For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.

The interweb winner for the day.
So long, and thanks for all the fish.
 
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Dogs can also learn human words yet we can’t understand a lick of dog-speak. Does that mean dogs are smarter than some humans?

Yes