You are an absolute fail at understanding what logic even means , don't even reference it . I am taking about the decades before Stoops , it's not fair to put a lifetime of fail all on them . If it applied to Cal then he couldn't take credit for any UK success before his tenure . You aren't going to get that but there it is anyway .
I Am Sickened By The Venemous Hate Filled Rants Towards Coaches and Players
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Dead wrong. You say it's not fair to put decades of failure at the current team's feet; meaning you believe it is decades of failure that has put them in their current hole, and it's not 100% their fault for the current ineptitude we are witnessing. Thereby (since I have to break this down into tiny fragments so you can mentally digest them because you weren't capable of connecting the dots from my post on your own) Cal does not get credit for all of his current success either, since clearly it must be a product of his predecessors.
Again, that's not what I'm saying, that's what you're saying with your jackass fallacy that we can't put all of this on the current coaches and players. We absolutely can and should. The previous decades mean squat, just as Cal's success has nothing to do with our past.
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Absolutely. We need more fans like him and the guy above to tell us to accept the situation and that it's all OK. That is the path to success.
Good post overall OP, but some of your words I find troublesome.
If we beat New Mexico State and South Carolina we are on our way to what exactly? These are two teams that everyone predicted us to beat before the season. We would have accomplished exactly nothing but go par for the course, except for that gigantic hiccup against Southern Miss.
Also you say that this weekend truly starts the turnaround. Did Mark Stoops say it would take 38 games to see it? Did he say no turnaround before game 39? Why couldn't it start against Southern Miss? Why couldn't it start against Florida? You're picking cream puff New Mexico State as the perfect point for your agenda because there's no doubt we're gonna blow them out of the water. Beating this team 70-0 proves NOTHING. THEY ARE THAT BAD. Beating South Carolina proves NOTHING. They are a mess and have a first year head coach who's a certified moron when it comes to offense. South Carolina and Steve Spurrier themselves got the guy fired 2 years ago because he could not run out the clock effectively.
So if we beat NMSU and SC, what exactly does that prove? It proves every preseason pundit right and it proves we're just above completely incompetent, nothing more. It does not signal a turnaround in any way.
Beat Alabama then we're talking.
I knew you couldn't get it , making up bs logic and attributing it to me is about what I expected . One more time I'll hold your hand , even though it's not going to help . Stoops is taking heat because posters are frustrated over a long string of events before Stoops was even coach . They reference Mitch's failures in hiring or the how they've put up with the losing so long and so on . The team is not to blame for all of that and shouldn't be seeing decades of venom spill onto them . You stroll in with championship level idiocracy and fail boat an analogy to Cal with some incoherent ramblings of him not getting credit for his success . The correct analogy would be Cal not getting credit for success prior to him . See how that works ? I didn't think so , let's do a simplified version .
Pre Stoops , no blame Stoops
Pre Cal , no credit Cal
You're tired of people picking on the coaches. Okay. I get that. Most of us on the other hand are tired of getting our butts kicked because these coaches are failing in their job duties. I hope you can likewise appreciate our viewpoint. Considering the current state of affairs around here, I don't think it is unfair that these coaches are being skewered by the fans, especially considering this is year 4 and the team looks worse than it did in year 1 in some ways.
I can see my post has created a lot of good debate both for and against our coaching staff and players. I am somewhat surprised there was not more of a back lash towards Mitch Barnhart, since he is the person who made the hire to get our program to the situation we currently reside. I appreciate the feed back and I just want everyone to know that my post was not directed at other fans with opposing views, I really just wanted to see what the pulse of the Big Blue Nation is concerning our football programs struggles. Go Cats.
There's a difference but it has nothing to do with race. It has to do with an undeserved contract extension that was created more out of incompetence than anything else. Without that buy out it is basically 100% that Stoops would be gone. Using race as an excuse for everything is intellectually lazy.
From here on out how about all replies simply say Yes to keeping. Stoops for year 5 with only having 5 wins this year or No if the cats only secure 5 wins and do not go to a bowl.
You sound like a *****. How does it feel knowing you have wasted thousands of dollars to keep a problem progressing?
Why? Don't like what the people are saying?
As to this year - not only would it be the 5 wins but how we lost the other 5.
Were we competitive? Did we lose a couple of heartbreakers? Was obvious improvement displayed on both sides of the ball?
Retention with only 5 wins this year would have to provide serious examples of the program moving in the right direction on many fronts.
Anything under 5 and he is has got to go.
(unless the 4 wins are vs Bama, GA, TN, and UL - of course then my brain would explode becasue we lost to NMSU and Austin Peay...)
This team would have to make major improvements to win 5 games.
See that bolded part? That is exactly what I said. You have got to be the stupidest son of a b!tch on here to first try and talk down to me and then retort by agreeing with exactly what I said. The best part is how you go on a soapbox rant about fail and comprehension. Just....wow. I don't even think you realize it, that's what makes it even funnier. Go back, reread my post, then go sit in the corner when you realize your idiotic retort was completely and hilariously misguided, and think long and hard before you decide to make another smart *** response showing your ***. How can you even win a debate when you don't even understand what's being said? :joy:
Go read your own post again , here I'll bold it for you .
Cal does not get credit for all of his current success either, since clearly it must be a product of his predecessors.
You are a gigantic touching idiot , nothing you've posted in any thread is remotely sensible . Read it a bunch of times and ponder on it for awhile , no hurry . Let me know when it dawns on you if it ever does .
If your dumbass had read my entire post where I said that was what you were saying when you said that the current football team can't be held accountable for the current predicament due to previous regimes' failures and decades of poor football, then perhaps you could have responded with a germane retort.
Therefore, Cal isn't responsible for his current success since according to your moronic football logic the teams are victims or beneficiaries of their predecessors. By that logic Cal clearly is only able to succeed due to the previous foundation set in place, not because he's a great coach. Since we both agree Cal is responsible solely for the current hoops success, it stands to reason that your moronic original point (which is what I initially called you out on) is a load of crap, because Stoops' crappy coaching decisions and the players quitting on the field ARE responsible for 100% of the current issues. Not Bill Curry, not CM Newton, and not Bear Bryant.You inexplicably say no they aren't and to accept the current state of affairs. You're a complete moron, so dumb that I've had to explain it to you three times now.
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There's leading a horse to water but not being able to make it drink and there's water boarding an imbecile that still dies of dehydration . Stay bliss and bless your heart
Yep, and you're a mule so it sure hasn't been easy trying to drag your *** to water. Glad you were finally able to quench your thirst on my last post.
I understand your posts and have no dog in your argument. It's not true that everyone is taking it out on stoops because of the past. Stoops is taking a lot of heat mainly because of his mishaps. I wanted stoops to work out, but he has disappointed myself and many others fans. The past is the past, all we can hope for is changing the culture of the program. It sorely reminds people of the past because we're facing the same results. Losing seasons. Factor in that he almost got beat by EKU last year, defensive players told how Kentucky didn't even prepare for Lamar Jackson last year, the second half collapse against USM, Shannon Dawson racking up 520 yards on stoops defense, looking like a sunbelt team against Florida, etc. Stoops teams aren't fundamentally sound, regress as the season goes on, and are now the third best team in our state. He is going to get criticized till he either improves or is fired.
Enough already !
This is our team and I agree that I am sick of the bashing .
I , like everyone , want us to win.
This is not the time to throw our team / coaches "under the bus " .
If you are truly "fed up " ;
Don't renew your tickets next year .
Give your tickets this year to families and kids who want to experience a college game day !
I and my sons will be there tomorrow going on 26 years for ; first and foremost , the opportunity to cheer on " our team " , but , most importantly , father and sons time !
Peace
This is our team and I agree that I am sick of the bashing .
I , like everyone , want us to win.
This is not the time to throw our team / coaches "under the bus " .
If you are truly "fed up " ;
Don't renew your tickets next year .
Give your tickets this year to families and kids who want to experience a college game day !
I and my sons will be there tomorrow going on 26 years for ; first and foremost , the opportunity to cheer on " our team " , but , most importantly , father and sons time !
Peace