I can’t anymore…

spilledgrain

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Apr 5, 2019
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Unfortunately, I only see 1 option as a sure fire difference maker as head coach, and that's Jordan Burroughs. Anyone else and I would expect similar results. Not sure JB would even consider the opportunity.
 
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Gonzo_Bloor

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The days of Iowa men just pounding the other team is over.
Those days have been over for a while. But that doesn't mean we should have to stomach a program where the wrestlers bring zero offense and gas out before every opponent. Regardless of where we've sat talent wise, we could always count on our guys being in better condition and outlasting the other team's guys. That apparently is gone and we now have guys who are consistently outworked, outgutted, and outwrestled in the final minute of matches. That was never a thing, is completely avoidable and is 100% on our coaches.
 

Anon1750875978

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I am getting to the apathy stage. I have had season tickets for a long time and have never missed as many duals. Granted I have kids in activities on Friday nights but I also just dont enjoy watching them as much. I vote for a change for sure.

I will say, please stop posting attacks on wrestlers. We have no idea what they have going on behind the scenes. Injuries, illness, weight cutting, school, personal, etc all come into play. Plus families and recruits read these and it does no good.
Fortunately/Unfortunately we are talking about salaried, paid employees.
With that distinction comes a level of scrutiny previously not in play.
No different than working in a corporation where your job performance is evaluated on a regular basis.

Poor performance and you lose your standing.
This is the new world of college athletics.
Sorry.
 
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Kiddagger311

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I have tried to support this staff believing better days are ahead.

I am done, I cancelled my Inner Circle donations.

Going to give to another program.

The team seems to have quit under his leadership. He should shake things up and resign and turn it over temporarily to someone other than anyone on this staff.
He has had great teams but they keep underperforming.

it’s time to get a new staff and let go of the past.

Tom will always be one of the greats, but he is approaching 60
Come give it to RU ;)
 

Anon1746362370

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John Smith set a good example. Let’s hope he follows his path.

Tom’s had his time. I would like to see Terry have his leading the HWC. He still has a lot to offer. The older, mature, proven guys like Lee, Desanto, Buchanan respond to him. His style translates well to the freestyle game.

Hiring JB to take over the program, I could see him trying to make that happen. There’s mutual respect there.
Terry moving to HWC would be ideal but in all honesty, would he even agree to that? I'm sure Lee, DeSanto would be affected if both Brands left but that's just an assumption on my end. My bet would be if Tom is gone, Terry isn't going to stick around (another assumption). And if Tom's gone, I'd guess they'll clean house with Telford and Morningstar (which is what should happen). So who leads the HWC if Dennis is replaced since a new head coach is coming in and would probably want his own HWC coach. What's Cejudo doing these days? Is he a realistic replacement for the HWC? I could see the guys responding to him and he would obviously have a Brands component in his coaching. Would Mocco be a possibility for either the college staff or the HWC? I've always thought Snyder out at NE would be a great head coach, sure JB and Dake would be bigger names but not sure if that's possible. Snyder might be able to get Tervel to come as well. Sure some PSU influence would be great so get Nolf, N.Lee, Zain in as an assistant and throw in Kem for the other. I think another great coach in hiding is Pritzloff, dude is making some quiet noise out east with Columbia. Speaking of Columbia, Keegan would be a great assistant to bring in the Askren mindset. Would Coleman Scott give up his club gig to be a HC here?
 
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mcpat

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Some Iowa fans:
Where were these Penn State fair weather fans before Cael?

Some of those same Iowa fans:
I can’t watch this anymore. It’s no longer fun. I’m cancelling my season tickets. I stopped going to home meets - it’s no longer worth the drive. I don’t even watch some of the meets on TV anymore and when I do, I fast forward through it.
 

WhiteDog125

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Terry moving to HWC would be ideal but in all honesty, would he even agree to that? I'm sure Lee, DeSanto would be affected if both Brands left but that's just an assumption on my end. My bet would be if Tom is gone, Terry isn't going to stick around (another assumption). And if Tom's gone, I'd guess they'll clean house with Telford and Morningstar (which is what should happen). So who leads the HWC if Dennis is replaced since a new head coach is coming in and would probably want his own HWC coach. What's Cejudo doing these days? Is he a realistic replacement for the HWC? I could see the guys responding to him and he would obviously have a Brands component in his coaching. Would Mocco be a possibility for either the college staff or the HWC? I've always thought Snyder out at NE would be a great head coach, sure JB and Dake would be bigger names but not sure if that's possible. Snyder might be able to get Tervel to come as well. Sure some PSU influence would be great so get Nolf, N.Lee, Zain in as an assistant and throw in Kem for the other. I think another great coach in hiding is Pritzloff, dude is making some quiet noise out east with Columbia. Speaking of Columbia, Keegan would be a great assistant to bring in the Askren mindset. Would Coleman Scott give up his club gig to be a HC here?
Seems like Terry pretty much is leading the HWC IMO. where the hell is Dennis?
 

AndreTheHawk

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Some Iowa fans:
Where were these Penn State fair weather fans before Cael?

Some of those same Iowa fans:
I can’t watch this anymore. It’s no longer fun. I’m cancelling my season tickets. I stopped going to home meets - it’s no longer worth the drive. I don’t even watch some of the meets on TV anymore and when I do, I fast forward through it.
Penn State had plenty of competitive teams prior to Carl. What they didn't have was much of a fan base, apparently. You also apparently have a Penn State wrestling board as well (?), never read it so I just have to assume it's real. But here you are. Weird.

One thing I know for certain, when Iowa was rolling out Spencer Lee, Kemdawg, Eirman, Marinelli, DeSanto, Fat Tony Cassioppi, etc., you had to look real hard on the previous Iowa Wrestling board to find a comment from a Penn State "fan". They were eerily silent and nowhere to be found. Good times indeed.

So Pot meet Kettle I guess. 😂
 

Timmyd6

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Fortunately/Unfortunately we are talking about salaried, paid employees.
With that distinction comes a level of scrutiny previously not in play.
No different than working in a corporation where your job performance is evaluated on a regular basis.

Poor performance and you lose your standing.
This is the new world of college athletics.
Sorry.
I thought
Fortunately/Unfortunately we are talking about salaried, paid employees.
With that distinction comes a level of scrutiny previously not in play.
No different than working in a corporation where your job performance is evaluated on a regular basis.

Poor performance and you lose your standing.
This is the new world of college athletics.
Sorry.
I actually thought about that with them now being paid but they may or may not be being paid, they are still young, and we still dont know what's going on behind the scenes.
 
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Yep, I have spilt my donations between UNI and Iowa.

been a Hawkeye fan since 74 and a graduate from UNI.

There will be gaggles of people that slip in and replace my 1200 bucks. UNI gets far less support.

No, UNI willl never be at the same level as Iowa but as a season ticket holder I can tell you they are a thousand times more offensive than Iowa.

They aren’t as good, so they don’t score on their shots as often but they make more effort.

As a fan, that’s all I ask for is for attempts!
The 125/133 matches with PSU and OSU both were 1-1 or matches, but were exciting to watch.

exciting is not a word to describe this Iowa team. A couple guys do rise each meet, but on the whole it’s pretty blah.
You should give your money to women's wrestling instead.
 

District 4

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Penn State had plenty of competitive teams prior to Carl. What they didn't have was much of a fan base, apparently. You also apparently have a Penn State wrestling board as well (?), never read it so I just have to assume it's real. But here you are. Weird.

One thing I know for certain, when Iowa was rolling out Spencer Lee, Kemdawg, Eirman, Marinelli, DeSanto, Fat Tony Cassioppi, etc., you had to look real hard on the previous Iowa Wrestling board to find a comment from a Penn State "fan". They were eerily silent and nowhere to be found. Good times indeed.

So Pot meet Kettle I guess. 😂
Thats because the thin skinned mods had us banned for rational thought hence the silence lmfao
 

Anon1750875978

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I thought

I actually thought about that with them now being paid but they may or may not be being paid, they are still young, and we still dont know what's going on behind the scenes.
May or may not be getting paid???

Really?
 

STtiger2025

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Some Iowa fans:
Where were these Penn State fair weather fans before Cael?

Some of those same Iowa fans:
I can’t watch this anymore. It’s no longer fun. I’m cancelling my season tickets. I stopped going to home meets - it’s no longer worth the drive. I don’t even watch some of the meets on TV anymore and when I do, I fast forward through it.
Not sure if I’m one of the ones you’re referring to but since I recently posted about giving up my season tickets and it not being worth the drive but I can assure you that I have never given a moments thought about when psu fans jumped on board and I couldn’t f#*%#king care less!! I also have never visited your board or any other teams board because I simply don’t care what any of you has to say about Iowa wrestling! Hope that clears things up for you.
 
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I am getting to the apathy stage. I have had season tickets for a long time and have never missed as many duals. Granted I have kids in activities on Friday nights but I also just dont enjoy watching them as much. I vote for a change for sure.

I will say, please stop posting attacks on wrestlers. We have no idea what they have going on behind the scenes. Injuries, illness, weight cutting, school, personal, etc all come into play. Plus families and recruits read these and it does no good.
I agree with most of this except your final sentence. Family members and recruits should NEVER hop on the forums and they definitely should never base any decisions off what they read here. Why let anonymous posters put you in a bad mood or worse, sway or dictate some life changing decision?

I've said this to Mama Kueter several times when she hops on here: just stay away.

If you're in their position and you're on here you're simply looking for validation or an argument.
 

JoeBagobagels

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Penn State had plenty of competitive teams prior to Carl. What they didn't have was much of a fan base, apparently. You also apparently have a Penn State wrestling board as well (?), never read it so I just have to assume it's real. But here you are. Weird.

One thing I know for certain, when Iowa was rolling out Spencer Lee, Kemdawg, Eirman, Marinelli, DeSanto, Fat Tony Cassioppi, etc., you had to look real hard on the previous Iowa Wrestling board to find a comment from a Penn State "fan". They were eerily silent and nowhere to be found. Good times indeed.

So Pot meet Kettle I guess. 😂
Not true, there were PSU fans here then.
 

AndreTheHawk

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Not true, there were PSU fans here then.
Yes, about 5 of them. The few "good" posters you actually have. Guys with a clue who know how to interact respectfully on another fanbases board and talk actual wrestling.

The PSU trolls that exist here today (I have an extremely large list of your dorks on Ignore), that had been here before 2020 were long gone, but now that Iowa isn't #1 anymore, they're back. Funny how that works heh? You didn't need the Ignore feature for a couple of years, just silence from the kittie fans.

Apparently the supposed wrestling board PSU has (?), is dogshit, and they wouldn't allow your own trolls on that site, let alone anyone else. Weird.
 
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Reiterate

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Some Iowa fans:
Where were these Penn State fair weather fans before Cael?

Some of those same Iowa fans:
I can’t watch this anymore. It’s no longer fun. I’m cancelling my season tickets. I stopped going to home meets - it’s no longer worth the drive. I don’t even watch some of the meets on TV anymore and when I do, I fast forward through it.
Yeah, I'm sensing some fan concern. If you can call them fans.
 

JoeBagobagels

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Yes, about 5 of them. The few "good" posters you actually have. Guys with a clue who know how to interact respectfully on another fanbases board and talk actual wrestling.

The PSU trolls that exist here today (I have an extremely large list of your dorks on Ignore), that had been here before 2020 were long gone, but now that Iowa isn't #1 anymore, they're back. Funny how that works heh? You didn't need the Ignore feature for a couple of years, just silence from the kittie fans.

Apparently the supposed wrestling board PSU has (?), is dogshit, and they wouldn't allow your own trolls on that site, let alone anyone else. Weird.
There was back and forth from what I recall and I think things were a little more wide open back then .
 

JoeBagobagels

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Yes, about 5 of them. The few "good" posters you actually have. Guys with a clue who know how to interact respectfully on another fanbases board and talk actual wrestling.

The PSU trolls that exist here today (I have an extremely large list of your dorks on Ignore), that had been here before 2020 were long gone, but now that Iowa isn't #1 anymore, they're back. Funny how that works heh? You didn't need the Ignore feature for a couple of years, just silence from the kittie fans.

Apparently the supposed wrestling board PSU has (?), is dogshit, and they wouldn't allow your own trolls on that site, let alone anyone else. Weird.
As for the board, it seems fine to me. There's only so much controversy going on now.

We had the 141 stuff from Nagao getting hurt to Davis silliness and talk about who should probably be at that spot when you include Desmond. And then early honor of a little bit of controversy about Mirasola but he's been improving .