I really wish 6-8 of the candidates drop out quickly
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These guys are like a broken record. Same sound bite lines in every debate. Same insults against each other. Same playing to the base. Same insults against our President. Same denigration of the country. Some patriots these guys are. By their tone, you'd have thought hundreds or thousands have been killed under Obama in the US. But people know better. Well, at least those not drinking the tea part koolaid. Trump is right about one thing-these guys are losers.
Our President has earned the disdain. Most people realize that our President has been very weak in the view of the world. Quite frankly, he's been a big disappointment on the world stage.
The GOP would be wise to get ride of the bottom 5 in the polls. It is distracting attention from the upper half.
W isn't the President now or for the past 7 years...build your strawman somewhere else. Not only is he a disappointment on the world stage but many members in his own party in congress feel let down by his lack of leadership.
Don't you think they may be waiting until Thanksgiving? Is that not when you assured all of us that Trump would withdraw - or before? Why do you attempt to offer yourself as someone who knows anything regarding the political arena?
I would be happy if 6-8 dropped out as long as I could pick the ones to drop. Actually, I think I'd be fine if you only let me pick one of the 6-8 who dropped out. My choice would be easy - Trump. After that, I think things settle down a lot even if no one else drops out.
I am surprised that Trump is still around. I was convinced that people would eventually see through his BS, but I was wrong.
I understand. I was surprised that Obama got elected, absolutely astounded that he was reelected. Had I been black, I am sure I would have voted for him the first time. There is simply no economic nor political excuse for his reelection.
Frank Luntz - think he was a staffer in the Romney campaign - did a focus group with people who were either Trump supporters or had previously supported Trump. He had them view ads for other candidates that pointed out flaws in Trump's arguments. Almost entirely across the board, the negativity about Trump strengthened support for Trump. The link is to video of an interview with Luntz about the focus group.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...supporters_were_tired_of_weak_candidates.html
It is not a bit unusual to attract a large field in the primaries after the prior administration had been so "feckless". After Jimmy Carter, there were double digit Repubs in the primaries, and a hell of a lot more who showed interest in running. And most did not bail until after primaries had begun.
Santorum came out of no where to gain Iowa the last time. Several probably hoping for like miracle.
Santorum came out of no where to gain Iowa the last time. Several probably hoping for like miracle.
I'll bet that Cruz takes Iowa. I think you might see someone more in line with the establishment take NH. That will make SC very interesting. If Trump loses those first 2, I'll be curious to see if he sticks with it. He may opt to drop out and serve as part of the peanut gallery.
I doubt that is going to happen to lose the first two. SC seems damned secure as the third. We have got to keep in mind that he has not begun a campaign. I cannot fathom what it will look like when he starts running ads. Can he buy up all space in NH? Damned near happened last time here is SC? Parties wanting to buy TV space and there were no spots unoccupied.
Did anyone see how much money Team Jeb was losing? $6 million for every 1 point drop in the polls.
That's really a good point. I've been following politics since the 70s. I've always had an interest in current events and politics. Back then, we had a 30 minute news show (I preferred Cronkite), the daily newspaper, and Time magazine which i subscribed to. Opinions were limited to the editorial page-where they belonged. To understand issues, you actually had to read. Today, people are so effing stupid, they listen to some talking head and watch a 20 second soundbite from a politician and form their opinion. News has become entertainment. Of the 3 big 24 hour news networks, CNN is the most evenhanded yet they are almost unwatchable.. What's with their "breaking news" alert every half hour? Geez. Back in the day, breaking news meant something important. But I digress. 24 hour news and talk radio (and I'll throw in religious influences too)have ruined this country's political climate. I'd much have people ignorant of politics than have them misinformed. people are lazy. Sad but true.
No doubt. My tech is a Trump nut and I get a daily dose of it. Tired of Washington, special interest groups, pork, big business, etc, etc, etc....I understand completely but Trump is nothing but a BS show.
Yes, Trump is for more spending than all the candidates combined if you listen to him. Problem is he gives no details on anything and most of the crap he spews is impossible. And these morons keep cheering him on which makes the whole political environment sink even lower.
Did you watch Newsroom? I really loved that show and was bummed it was canceled. It hooked me right from the get go. Sorkin is a genius.
Agree. Concerning religion I just finished teaching the second semester of church history which covers up to today. A portion of our study focuses on the way evangelicals (using the term loosely) relate to the government in America. Until the 1890s evangelicals generally just wanted government to be moral and to not interfere in church. The economy surged in the 1890s. Decadence increased and came into the open. Risqué literature multiplied. Sensuality in printer and advertising was all around. Evangelicals knew the Old Testament. When Israel prospered the people forgot God and judgment came on the land. Evangelicals feared the same for America and thus began the Temperance Movement. Now as a group evangelicals looked to government to legislate specific points of doctrine. Alcohol was identified as the culprit and the march to prohibition was on. We all know the failure of prohibition. The evangelical reaction to the repeal was to view government as utterly corrupt. Consequently, no good Christian would engage in politics was the message from the pulpit. The Great Depression was God's wrath. Now comes WWII. In Germany is this Antichist figure set on world conquest. Then comes Pearl Harbor. The fear of the judgment of God is heavy across America. After WWII evangelicals got back into government. Left and right become very distinctive positions. The right coops evangelicals and has been gen-ing up issues ever since. Of course the left does exactly the same thing.
I don't know, "feckless weakling" seemed a lil' different than past insults, Dumbass.
Preminds me of what you'll be spewing a little over a year from now, dumbass.
Everyone claims to be for infrastructure spending but it always ends up the 5th or 6th priority so it gets whatever money is left.
I think Trump is taping into the genuine anger that exists out there with people and politicians in general. From local, to state to national, some politicians drive people insane, to the point they're willing to ignore the craziness that is Trump as to feel that they're concerns are being voiced. People are tired of the semantics... the word play... the political speech... They look at Hillary, or Jeb, or any other sitting politician and think of them as being the same.
I felt that Trump would have been out by now. That this was a run to grab some attention, get his name out there, market off of it a little more and move on. But now... I think he actually believes he can win and actually wants to win, so I don't see him dropping out unless his poll numbers drop well below someone else.
“By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.”
Curious whose quote that is. Sounds like something from Kurt Vonnegut Jr's "Mother Knight."
live edit: Never mind, I found it. I wasn't too far off the mark.:boom::smiley::gun:
I loved that show.
What's really great is to watch that show and then watch Dumb and Dumber and watch Jeff Daniels at opposite ends of the spectrum.