I should die somewhere between 23-25 yrs from now

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I really don't give a rats backside about global warming. I am much more worried about radical Islam and the ex KGB official leading Russia.
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Now, now .......... there's no need to lose your head about this.

That is unless you are a Christian ....... Jew ....... Atheist who won't accept their dogma ....... or Muslim who won't subscribe to their madness.
 

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Did you see where a couple of people showed up for a climate change rally in Richmond today? I looked at the images on NBC12.com and it looked like there were maybe 10 people there. What's even funnier is seeing them all bundled up.



Silly
 

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Re: Now, now .......... there's no need to lose your head about this.


What about that war you said was inevitable that we are going to lose? It's time to panic!
 
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I could see it from my office......the crowd looked very small. Similar to the Hands Up Don't Shoot rally a few months ago in the city
 

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Re: Nice.....really nice

No concern at all about our Earth and protecting it for future generations.
 

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What about it?

Panic?

Our earthly lives are gonna expire one day. Does it matter if it is cancer, famine, beheading, gunshot wound, natural causes, or choking on Mama Cass' sandwich?

If it truly matters to you, then you may want to re-assess who is panicking.

Me? I'm ready for the big ride. Have been that way since I climbed Fayetteville's TRUE catwalk (not the tourist catwalk) just for sh*ts & giggles when I was 17.

"Death" ..... as some of you call it ...... don't scare me.

Only difference is I have zero desire to take infidels with me. I would do what I could, within reason and barring extreme circumstances, to preserve life, not take it.





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there has to be a figure on how much has been spent

by governments on climate change in its impact on temperature.

no seems to what to answer, or guess, at the question of what the temperature should be or how to cool the earth if that is what they want.

Nonetheless, we, the US, probably have spent millions or billions on the issue with likely no measurable gains on changing the climate.
 

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Meanwhile there's China out there, who will offset any gains

we would make.

The mass hysteria over climate change has been around since I was a little kid and will be around long after I'm gone. That doesn't mean we don't seek progress in how we do things, but we shouldn't run around like Chicken Little either.
 

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Exactly how many generations would that be?

Unless our elected leaders prioritize our threats, perceived or otherwise, that number of generations is going to drop markedly.

As one would say:

"Why should I agree to swap one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants a mile away?"
 

Wolf J. Flywheel

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China outpaces this country .......... exactly as you say.

Russia? Close 3rd behind the United States.

Are those countries onboard?

LOL

Will they EVER be onboard?

LOL X 2

Perhaps they will climb onboard as soon as they can find a way to merchandise it as well.

This nation's ignorance is at Defcon 1.
 
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I have a little....


I don't litter, I recycle, I keep my vehicles tuned properly, and dispose of my chemicals properly. I do my small part for the environment but I am not going to try to stop a natural gas pipeline from being built or attempt to put a coal-fired power plant out of business.
 

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Protecting this earth for future generations is more than just doing one's part. But at least it is good you do what you do.

As it pertains to the governments of the world, I'm all about finding the right balance that will be a positive impact on the economy at the same time preserving natural resources. Too often, people find they should choose a side. I don't believe in that crap and they only do it because they have been influenced politically. But make no mistake about one fact: we must not take this world for granted and sometimes hard decisions are needed by the government that will piss off either and both sides of the spectrum.
 

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Re: there has to be a figure on how much has been spent


It's the combination of countries, with the U.S. showing some degree of leadership, doing something that would potentially make any difference. I'm sure the U.S. doesn't think they can do it all by themselves. There are lots of environmental and health costs associated with burning fossil fuels as well outside of any climate effects. Of course, none of that matters if the world destruction is just around the corner.
 

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Global Warming is nothing but a money ploy.

There's a reason why Al Gore is as wealthy as Mitt Romney. Pushing the "go green" agenda.
And nobody denies climate change. It's perfectly normal. Climate has changed a lot over the past 4.5 billion years and will continue to do so until this planet no longer exists.

Do humans play a role? Sure but it's insignificant.

But the scientists say humans do. Of course, they do. Many of them receive governmental funding and would be black-balled if they ever spoke out.

Follow the money trail and stop buying the propaganda.
 

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Re: there has to be a figure on how much has been spent

What are these potential impacts and what are their benefit. Please provide a link to back up your claims.
 

moe

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Instead of me explaining it to you, there are lots of articles out there to get you up to speed on the climate change/global warming discussion. Let us know how it went.
 

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Re: there has to be a figure on how much has been spent

I didnt think you knew. Thanks for proving you are nothing more than a blowhard.
 

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Re: there has to be a figure on how much has been spent

You're the one with questions about the topic. Not going to teach you Dave, sorry. Feel free to take issue with anything I've posted on the subject.
 

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Re: there has to be a figure on how much has been spent

Originally posted by moe:


It's the combination of countries, with the U.S. showing some degree of leadership, doing something that would potentially make any difference. I'm sure the U.S. doesn't think they can do it all by themselves. There are lots of environmental and health costs associated with burning fossil fuels as well outside of any climate effects. Of course, none of that matters if the world destruction is just around the corner.
how many countries, how long, and at how much money to pay? I have a feeling you don't care but rather only to be flippant and not give a rational answer to a good question. How much positive impact on the environment has there been since 3 decades alone of emissions control, no matter how much? There has to be data showing something for the current investment of tax payer dollars, whether positive or not.
 

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Still waiting for you to provide documentation your claims. I dont take exception with what you say. I know you are full of ****. Most folks on here realize you are dumb.
 

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please only use valid sources

Wikipedia and nasa are not valid sources.
 

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If the ultimate end of the fight against "global warming" and "climate change" is to preserve life, why are we killing millions of innocent lives every year through abortions? That right there tells you it is just an agenda by the globalists to take more control because if they really cared about preserving life, abortions would be illegal.
 

moe

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What claims are you speaking of?
 

dave

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Re: there has to be a figure on how much has been spent

The questions you keep failing to answer. Read the thread. Even the mayor of tardville should be able to gigure it out.
 

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Re: please only use valid sources

If the survival of earth were really at stake we would be invading china to stop the worlds biggest polluter.
 

moe

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Survival of the earth? You should really check out those links or maybe some others since you didn't like those or just stick to the denier sites that you favor.
 

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Re: there has to be a figure on how much has been spent

You asked one question and I denied your request to brief you on the topic. You said I made claims, I asked you what are those claims and you can't come up with anything. Thanks for the stimulating discussion.
 

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I didnt expect you to be able to back up your claims. Thanks for proving my right.
 

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Re: please only use valid sources

I thought several countries were working together to affect change? I thought this was the biggest crisis we have today. You keep talking about denier websites and other websites. I know a few idiots believe everything they read on the net but i just listen to what people say andask simple questions.
 

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In the big picture polar ice caps are a recent phenomina. Until relatively recently, the Tertiary most continents were covered by epicontinental seas. Gonwanda, the land mass that comprised the modern day continental plates was equatorial. We know that mountain building correlated with Oceanic Anoxin events altered pale climates. We know during the Permian sea level rise was up to 450 feet. We know during Pleistocene there was 3 mile thick ice were New York City is located. We know that a .6 degree temperature increase and a 4 mm sea level rise that is below instrument accuracy has had no observable large scale physical impact. Why the f##k should I care about about a hypothesis promulgated by a band of lunatics. You libtards are Delusional.