Was Riley our first choice and got turned down, or did we ever offer him? Did he take the OU job over UK? Which I pray that is what happened! Does anyone have the REAL story? If you do please reply! If conjecture don't bother! We can all assume! Thank you!
I want to know the "REAL" story on Lincoln Riley?
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If you were in his place would you chose UK over OU? This is a coach not a player.
Uk hired Dawson December 17
Oklahoma fired their OC January 6
I can't say if Riley or Dawson was picked first. But I'm fairly confident Oklahoma didn't have anything to do with it at the time.
Oklahoma fired their OC January 6
I can't say if Riley or Dawson was picked first. But I'm fairly confident Oklahoma didn't have anything to do with it at the time.
I think Riley was offered the job and declined. I think he gambled on a better job being open that would want him and he was right. He wound up in Oklahoma. Stoops is maligned right now but no way you pass on a guy with the resume of Riley to take a guy who has never called plays in P5. No one is that stupid. This isn't an attractive job for OC. You'll see that again this go around.
I know none of yall believed me last time but I'll say it again. Stoops secured verbal commitments from 2 candidates, Lincoln Riley and the other was unknown. Stoops knew he had his man, but wouldn't announce it because he was making up his mind which one he would hire. All indications were that Stoops would pick Lincoln Riley, but then Stoops stuck to his guns that he wanted to be more physical and that lead him to choosing the unknown person (who was Shannon Dawson). Lincoln Riley did not turn down UK.
I said that last year and I'll say it again. Those who blasted me last year can blast me again, but that's what happened.
Speculation is that the other part of the reason Stoops didn't choose Lincoln Riley is because of his age. There were some offensive players that really didn't get with Neal Brown and they indicated that he was so young that it seemed like your brother trying to tell you what to do. So people speculated that Stoops didn't want that again, so he chose the older guy.
I said that last year and I'll say it again. Those who blasted me last year can blast me again, but that's what happened.
Speculation is that the other part of the reason Stoops didn't choose Lincoln Riley is because of his age. There were some offensive players that really didn't get with Neal Brown and they indicated that he was so young that it seemed like your brother trying to tell you what to do. So people speculated that Stoops didn't want that again, so he chose the older guy.
I wanted Riley, but who knows if Stoops really did. Maybe he just interviewed him and didn't like what he said. Dawson was coming from a better program and might have just sold himself better with what he wanted to do here.
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Knowing that NCAA cheating is going on but doing jack **** to stop it or report it to superiors, then writing a tell-all book for profit while the program is going through probation hell does tend to get someone put on a blacklist
Riley turned down the offer and was looking for a better gig. I don't think OU played a part in it.
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And a huge reason Riley ended up at OU. Little bubby made the recommendation after he interviewed him twice but went another direction.
And a huge reason Riley ended up at OU. Little bubby made the recommendation after he interviewed him twice but went another direction.
So Stoops offered the job to 2 different guys at the same time? So both guys thought they had a new job at the same time?
If I had the choice between OU loaded with 4 and 5 Stars and Kentucky's current roster I think you know which way I'm going. We're improving though.
I don't know anything about it, but it seems to me someone who is a pretty hot commodity knows he is before he eventually accepts the job he wants. It's possible, maybe even likely, that by the last game of the year Riley knew he was going to be approached by several teams. Believe it or not, UK isn't a top draw. Just my guess.....
The first part of your post sounds a lot more like semi-informed conjecture than actual insider knowledge. Moreover, even if there is *some* truth to it, it's another example of Stoops making a poor decision, and it actually undercuts the arguments that you've made over the past several days defending him.
At least you're honest about the second part of your post being utterly speculative. I can't imagine that Stoops, a hard-nosed, old-school, kinda coach, would stand for something like that.
Anyway, as someone else said, this next OC hire will be the pivotal decision of the Stoops era. Let's hope the decision is the right one this time.
ummmm my whole post was not speculation. The part about age being a factor was, because that's what some are saying in the football offices, but don't know that for fact.
Fact is that Stoops runs these coaching searches with a tight lip, he doesn't tell people much, not even to his assistants. He'll ask probing questions to his assistants asking there thoughts and might make comments, but won't give away his full thoughts. The comments and the probing questions is how we all came up with a list of candidates last time. But if you noticed when everything came out about Shannon Dawson being the OC, he didn't consulting anyone in the football offices, thus nobody knew he was a candidate. Its almost how you have to do anything in the offices if you want to keep things a secret because there are always people in the basketball offices and football offices that are willing to leak information.
Last time one of those comments made was that Stoops had a few candidates willing to take the job, its just that Stoops had to make up his mind. Everything indicated that was going to choose Lincoln Riley, but he didn't. I think even Matt Jones will tell you guys that Lincoln Riley didn't turn UK down.
I'm willing to bet that Stoops will run this coaching search the exact same way. He'll get feedback from his staff on what they think, but won't give them his full thoughts on it and will conduct the search himself and consult with outside people that can keep there mouths closed.
Last time one of those comments made was that Stoops had a few candidates willing to take the job, its just that Stoops had to make up his mind. Everything indicated that was going to choose Lincoln Riley, but he didn't. I think even Matt Jones will tell you guys that Lincoln Riley didn't turn UK down.
I'm willing to bet that Stoops will run this coaching search the exact same way. He'll get feedback from his staff on what they think, but won't give them his full thoughts on it and will conduct the search himself and consult with outside people that can keep there mouths closed.