Yes 8-10 games but never beating the top guys. Keep going after 2 and 3 stars taking 3-5 years to develop them and that work flow will continue to produce the same results. That formula gets you wins versus the teams you are suppose to beat and just falling short in the big games. The result: 8-4, 9-3.
I was just told that our media members
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Yes 8-10 games but never beating the top guys. Keep going after 2 and 3 stars taking 3-5 years to develop them and that work flow will continue to produce the same results. That formula gets you wins versus the teams you are suppose to beat and just falling short in the big games. The result: 8-4, 9-3.
And he is paid in the Top 15 of all coaches, we are not getting our money's worth...
We all need to face the reality, that Mullen just sucks at recruiting.
Now that Dak is gone, welcome back to being an SEC bottom feeder guys..
This is not surprising.
for those of you that dabble in the Twitters, just glance at his timeline and tell me which staff acted like they really wanted him. Coaches in Starkville could ride a bike to West Point and its Alabama coaches that have been beating a path to West Point lately. Saban is all over his timeline spending time with him. No sign of Mullen. One or two pics of Hev's face though.
ive looked at who is on board right now and have concluded its possible this class could be under 20 in number.
for those of you that dabble in the Twitters, just glance at his timeline and tell me which staff acted like they really wanted him. Coaches in Starkville could ride a bike to West Point and its Alabama coaches that have been beating a path to West Point lately. Saban is all over his timeline spending time with him. No sign of Mullen. One or two pics of Hev's face though.
ive looked at who is on board right now and have concluded its possible this class could be under 20 in number.
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That's what
I don't understand about those that ***** nonstop about his recruiting, which I admit is lackluster sometimes. If he's such a terrible recruiter like everyone says, then how do you explain winning 8, 9, 10 games? It must mean he's a pretty good coach, right?
I don't understand about those that ***** nonstop about his recruiting, which I admit is lackluster sometimes. If he's such a terrible recruiter like everyone says, then how do you explain winning 8, 9, 10 games? It must mean he's a pretty good coach, right?
Try 5th... Tied with Northern Miss...
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/113991/re-grading-the-secs-2012-recruiting-classes
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/113991/re-grading-the-secs-2012-recruiting-classes
I agree he's proven he's a good coach and developer of players. However if we ever want to contend for the west recruiting has got to get better. If this class finishes with a thud it's not the end of the world but we would have lost ground to the rest of the West. Hopefully this is another 2012 class and Mullen makes us all look like chumps for complaining.
I don't
disagree at all that if we want to be a national title contender more frequently, we need to pick it up, however, we've got to also realize that croom 2.0 is right around the corner with boneheaded personel moves.
disagree at all that if we want to be a national title contender more frequently, we need to pick it up, however, we've got to also realize that croom 2.0 is right around the corner with boneheaded personel moves.
Absolutely right. Hopefully Sirmon, Buckley, and whoever else we hire can pay some dividends next year. Recruiting rankings matter but I feel we don't have to be in the top ten every year. If we can average top 20, we will be fine. Top 20 recruiting is very attainable.
I do. But it won't be because they are getting who they have been wanting. They have moved to shallower waters and in a few cases, cut bait.
He doesn't come in 50th in recruiting. He just cannot compete with the best, nor tries to
It hasn't been that way for about a decade. Mississippi was shut-off to Bama, mostly thanks to the Bears up north. Nick James, Chris Jones, and Leo Lewis come to mind.
0 and 7 vs. Saban
1 and 6 vs. Miles
1 and 4 vs. Sumlin
1 and 3 vs. Freeze
2 and 1 vs. Malzahn
2 and 0 vs. Bielema
7-21 vs. the current head coaches in the SEC West. Yeah man, we are straight killing it. Don't change a thing.****
Mullen's "8-10 win seasons" are actually 3-4 win seasons propped up by Kentucky and four cupcakes out of conference.
Unwilling is the answer. He's a smart guy - he knows what it takes.
He won't accept help from people who have offered. He is keeping his nose clean for his next job. It's very frustrating.
He won't accept help from people who have offered. He is keeping his nose clean for his next job. It's very frustrating.
He is in fact Alan AND he is from Wes Point.Maybe we still get him.But yeah .WTF
It shouldn't be this hard.
It shouldn't be this hard.
Are they?? Do you expect the "death penalty" to happen or something??
That won't be used against a P5 school. Unless some kids are getting fadoodled in athletic fieldhouse and the leadership sweeps it under the-- oh wait! That actually happened... Still have played football every season since.
That was a decade ago. We live in a very different time than the 90s and early turn of the Millennium, college Football has been mainlined into the cyclical popculture/newsfeed/internet media vortex and there is more money than ever being made. In fact, there is too much money being made by all parties (that aren't athletes) to ever delve out too severe of a punishment. Money talks. Sad truth.
They will probably get some scholly losses and a vacated season or two from the Nutty years (Fitty!) and a brief cutback on the recruitage hours or whatever the pc term is.
But, in the end, they will still have a hell of a motivator in that beaver-toothed, bible-shield waving bunghole they have as a HC. Love him or hate him, the guy connects and recruits very well and ALWAYS has his team up for the big games. *Sigh* We need a motivator... also, quality talent to be motivated. I'm kind of tired of developing.
I hear there is some guy named Hudspeth that might need a job soon**
That won't be used against a P5 school. Unless some kids are getting fadoodled in athletic fieldhouse and the leadership sweeps it under the-- oh wait! That actually happened... Still have played football every season since.
That was a decade ago. We live in a very different time than the 90s and early turn of the Millennium, college Football has been mainlined into the cyclical popculture/newsfeed/internet media vortex and there is more money than ever being made. In fact, there is too much money being made by all parties (that aren't athletes) to ever delve out too severe of a punishment. Money talks. Sad truth.
They will probably get some scholly losses and a vacated season or two from the Nutty years (Fitty!) and a brief cutback on the recruitage hours or whatever the pc term is.
But, in the end, they will still have a hell of a motivator in that beaver-toothed, bible-shield waving bunghole they have as a HC. Love him or hate him, the guy connects and recruits very well and ALWAYS has his team up for the big games. *Sigh* We need a motivator... also, quality talent to be motivated. I'm kind of tired of developing.
I hear there is some guy named Hudspeth that might need a job soon**
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This is a huge worry to me, and why I got that "good Lord, MSU can never keep anything worth a f**ck" attitude when Byrne left. There would be heads rolling if he was still here. But as it is.....
i expect a largely congratulatory tone on here toward Saban, Miles, Sumlin and others by some after the usual next year. I hate that Mullen will miss his Sunday Scientology meeting pulling their foot out of his *** again. But who cares if we win 7 or 8 right? Win 7 and it's a party in Memphis baby.
Then it's back to the yearly job exploration by Mullen and annual DC replacement carousel.
Good times
That, and you can pretty much guarantee every time we play a team with a pulse that Mullen won't have the team ready. We come out flat and let them take control of the game. Boy but it sure feels good to beat Kentucky every year and Arkansas by the skin of our teeth. We should enjoy the time we have beating Auburn, too, because you can bet that they aren't gonna sit around and be happy with their results.
God that's depressing, and makes me even more pissed off that we still have fans that are happy with just being "meh". Even the year Mullen shot to #1, better recruiting would have given better depth to go the length of the season. We see how that turned out though, and that was Mullen's BEST year. Besides that year, Mullen hasn't finished any higher than 4th in the West, I'm almost certain.
State will never threaten even a second place finish in the West if the staff keeps getting these late flips and letting all of this talent in their back yard slip away. How that isn't concerning to some people blows my mind. Yeah, 9 wins are good, but why can't we at least look like we WANT to be better than the Bamas and LSUs of college football sometimes?
P.S.- A coach as smart as Mullen should never lose to a goober with half a brain like Miles. Certainly not as much anyway.
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If Alabama's head coach is there (West Point, for example, but really anywhere) and it's a guy we really want, shouldn't our head coach be there too instead of the area recruiter? These guys have to be a lot more impressed with a visit by a head coach in the SEC than one of area recruiters on our staff.