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Aike

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Mar 17, 2002
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Mathematically , yes . But that doesn't mean we have team to win it and we don't yet but you can't see that . It's not my problem that you can't realistically value our team and see what the limitations are . We had a very small chance and I posted as much yesterday , we beat the worst teams in our division which is a good step but we're not ready to beat the upper echelon teams that have more talented players .

Come down off your cloud. You don't have some special knowledge of the game.

I understand the game just fine. And I know what an uphill climb looks like. But we were in position to close the deal tonight.

Then we would have found out what we were made of in Knoxville. I know you think you already know, but there's a reason they play the games.

This team couldn't get it done early in the year, but in the middle of the year they could.

There isn't some magical switch that automatically gets hit in the offseason. If there were, we wouldn't have several decades of depressing seasons.

Ahh, I'm wasting my breath. I know this.
 

Xception

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Only you could say 5-7 to 12-2 and winning the east isn't vast improvement .
And only you could ignore a decade of being successful in lieu of one bad year , you are not rationale but a knee jerk fan that gets caught up in the moment . Missouri had been building their program for years that culminated in their titles but by all means ignore that because it destroys your point .
 

Xception

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Come down off your cloud. You don't have some special knowledge of the game.

I understand the game just fine. And I know what an uphill climb looks like. But we were in position to close the deal tonight.

Then we would have found out what we were made of in Knoxville. I know you think you already know, but there's a reason they play the games.

This team couldn't get it done early in the year, but in the middle of the year they could.

There isn't some magical switch that automatically gets hit in the offseason. If there were, we wouldn't have several decades of depressing seasons.

Ahh, I'm wasting my breath. I know this.
Blah blah blah , I'm Aike and I had a punchers chance . Tell it to somebody else
 

Rupp'sRunt

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And only you could ignore a decade of being successful in lieu of one bad year , you are not rationale but a knee jerk fan that gets caught up in the moment . Missouri had been building their program for years that culminated in their titles but by all means ignore that because it destroys your point .
Not in the SEC
 

billoliver40

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Go from a losing record for six years and two conference wins last year with basically the same team except for an inexperienced quarterback and a three star freshman running back and realistically expect to win the east?????

That's Tennessee level football talk.
 

Xception

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Was clicking to put you on ignore, pretty funny how you hide all your posts.

What kind of loser does that? Someone who only drunk posts idiotic rants?
I don't know what you mean about hiding posts or that you could do that , good point moron .
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Feb 20, 2005
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Call me what you like, but I never believe UK football will perform when they have to. It's just not in them. This program hasn't developed a winner's mentality. I don't know that it ever will.
 

Aike

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Call me what you like, but I never believe UK football will perform when they have to. It's just not in them. This program hasn't developed a winner's mentality. I don't know that it ever will.

I watched them march down the field and kick a game winning field goal a couple weeks ago.

That showed a winner's mentality.
 

DCFseattle

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Defense got gassed. The offense didn't really do them any favors, but lack of depth there was our undoing.

It is deflating, but it's not the end of the road. This team is still young and the improvement is easy to see. It bodes well for the future, but it was right there for the taking tonight. Tough loss.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Feb 20, 2005
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I watched them march down the field and kick a game winning field goal a couple weeks ago.

That showed a winner's mentality.[/QUOTE
You feel how feel, I will feel how I feel. Tonight showed that they just are not as good as some think. UGA is not a good team. UK isn't either.
 

WildcatofNati

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Mar 31, 2009
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O.m.g.
Go from a losing record for six years and two conference wins last year with basically the same team except for an inexperienced quarterback and a three star freshman running back and realistically expect to win the east?????

That's Tennessee level football talk.
Good point, but I would note that Snell is NOT a three star running back. He's a high four or five star running back- the recruiting sites dropped the ball on this guy. He's a future NFL high draft pick. We got lucky to get him.
 
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ScrewDuke1

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No one is saying we are some juggernaut, but we are better than last year.
 
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uk_king_cat2

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Pinkel 8–5 4–4 LIndependence
2004 Pinkel 5–6 3–5
2005 Pinkel 7–5 4–4 WIndependence
2006 Pinkel 8–5 4–4 L Sun
2007 Pinkel 12–2 7–1 1st (North) W Cotton 5 4
2008 Pinkel 10–4 5–3 1st (North) W Alamo 16 19
2009 Pinkel 8–5 4–4 L Texas
2010 Pinkel 10–3 6–2 L Insight 18 18
2011 Pinkel 8–5 5–4 WIndependence
Gary Pinkel (SEC) (2012–2015)
2012 Pinkel 5–7 2–6
2013 Pinkel 12-2 7-1 1st (East) W Cotton 5 5
2014 Pinkel 11-3 7-1 1st (East) W Citrus 11 14

That's Missouri leading up to their east title , I see a lot of winning and bowls . Way to fail at internet but I give you credit for getting Rupp to blindly liking your post .
Look at what they have done in the SEC. I only see two loosing seasons on that list as well.
 

BARRYBLUE1

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The only difference in winning the division last night and next week is Florida has to lose to SC. Either way, UK had to beat UT and Florida had to lose to LSU.
 

ukalum1988

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Dec 21, 2014
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Isn't the only team that has beat them at home alabama? I'd love to have your confidence, but have we even won in knoxville since nixon left office?
Well we did beat them in Knoxville in 1984 and 1976(?).
 

Xception

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Look at what they have done in the SEC. I only see two loosing seasons on that list as well.
They've won a couple of east titles in the sec , what do you want me to look at ? They had one down year but they had been building a program for a decade with progressive steps that culminated into a couple of titles . You can't just look at when they got into the sec and claim they went from nothing to something while ignoring how they got there . In the last decade UK has done nothing and certainly hasn't made the kinds of strides Missouri made during that time .

We need bowls and more success with even better recruiting to win the east title , one begets the other and you can't skip all of those steps . Missouri didn't skip steps and just because they had one down year just before a title doesn't mean they did .
 

Grumpyolddawg

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Jun 11, 2001
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Florida will lose to LSU, UT beat the team we should've just beat on a Hail Mary. Winning the east was very possible.

Just curious, why do you feel UK should have won? UGA had nearly 150 yards more total offense, 7 more first downs, 8 minutes more time of possession, ran 12 more plays, averaged 6.3 yards per play to 5.0 for UK. How does that translate to UK should have won? UK wasn't the only team that dropped a big gainer and possibly a TD. It was a hard fought game by 2 teams with neither team playing well enough that they should have won and didn't. Both have huge question question marks and neither is playing on a championship level. Winning the East is going to be like being the tallest dwarf.
 
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Random UK Fan

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Just curious, why do you feel UK should have won? UGA had nearly 150 yards more total offense, 7 more first downs, 8 minutes more time of possession, ran 12 more plays, averaged 6.3 yards per play to 5.0 for UK. How does that translate to UK should have won? UK wasn't the only team that dropped a big gainer and possibly a TD. It was a hard fought game by 2 teams with neither team playing well enough that they should have won and didn't. Both have huge question question marks and neither is playing on a championship level. Winning the East is going to be like being the tallest dwarf.
FWIW, the thought doesn't discredit UGA. It's more of the thought that we were ahead, the atmosphere was abnormally-electric, and we caught you guys on a down year, while we had a head full of steam. Unfortunately, we've seen this play out like groundhog day before. There's another thread discussing SEC teams that own UK. It's sad but true, and only UK has any say so to change that.
 
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Xception

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Just curious, why do you feel UK should have won?
You're trying to reason with the irrational , the majority of them wanted the coach fired because he wasn't getting it done and now they're upset and think we should/could have won the east . You'll never get them to understand anything other than the east was in our hands but I'm interested in watching your efforts .
 

Grumpyolddawg

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FWIW, the thought doesn't discredit UGA. It's more of the thought that we were ahead, the atmosphere was abnormally-electric, and we caught you guys on a down year, while we had a head full of steam. Unfortunately, we've seen this play out like groundhog day before. There's another thread discussing SEC teams that own UK. It's sad but true, and only UK has any say so to change that.

I understand he is just frustrated, been there plenty of times. Easy for me to say I guess, but I don't think either team played well enough to feel they should have won, both made plenty of mistakes and didn't capitalize on all opportunities. Pretty even game that we happened to be in the lead when it ended.
 

Aike

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I understand he is just frustrated, been there plenty of times. Easy for me to say I guess, but I don't think either team played well enough to feel they should have won, both made plenty of mistakes and didn't capitalize on all opportunities. Pretty even game that we happened to be in the lead when it ended.

Before last night, we were 13-0 under Stoops when leading going into the 4th quarter.

So forgive us for feeling like we should have closed the deal. Maybe we were due for the loss.
 

Grumpyolddawg

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Before last night, we were 13-0 under Stoops when leading going into the 4th quarter.

So forgive us for feeling like we should have closed the deal. Maybe we were due for the loss.

I wasn't aware of that, so I can understand his thinking a little better.
 
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Aike

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I wasn't aware of that, so I can understand his thinking a little better.

Apparently it's even worse than that - and this is a crazy stat - but we had won 31 straight games when leading after 3 quarters.

As bad as we've been, that's stunning.
 
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Rupp'sRunt

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Just curious, why do you feel UK should have won? UGA had nearly 150 yards more total offense, 7 more first downs, 8 minutes more time of possession, ran 12 more plays, averaged 6.3 yards per play to 5.0 for UK. How does that translate to UK should have won? UK wasn't the only team that dropped a big gainer and possibly a TD. It was a hard fought game by 2 teams with neither team playing well enough that they should have won and didn't. Both have huge question question marks and neither is playing on a championship level. Winning the East is going to be like being the tallest dwarf.
Being on UGAs 10 with 2:30 to go down 3, if we score we win. To those stats UK played very well in the first half and couldn't do much(3and outs galore) in the 2nd while UGA played well in the 2nd half. Also Badet catches that pass for a td instead of int the games over
 

Grumpyolddawg

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Being on UGAs 10 with 2:30 to go down 3, if we score we win. To those stats UK played very well in the first half and couldn't do much(3and outs galore) in the 2nd while UGA played well in the 2nd half. Also Badet catches that pass for a td instead of int the games over

But those stats don't point to UK should have won the game. Ridley dropped a TD early too, if he had caught it we were up 10 if we are playing the what if thing. But plays like that are why neither of us are in the playoff talks.

A TD would have given UK the lead with 2 minute to go. Given the way Stoops played D when a FG would beat him, do you think he would have played it different if we needed a TD? I don't, so we would have been inside the 15 1st and 10 with about 45 sec to go and a time out, maybe we get in the endzone, maybe not, but getting the go ahead score with 2+ minutes left doesn't guarantee a win, we went ahead of UT with 10 sec to go and still lost/

I understand the frustration, had a lot of it this season, UK has been playing well and UGA hasn't and UK fans expected to win, why shouldn't they. It was a close hard fought game between 2 teams that were fairly evenly match, time ran out with UGA ahead, could just as easily been UK. But neither team played well enough to say it was a game they should have won.
 
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