iasooner...This One's 4 U, My Friend...

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If the Shoe Fits...Wear it in Good Health...;)

 

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Thanks Ma'am ! There are a lot of Sooner fans up here (those folks that appreciate watching a Great football team instead of watching the corn harvest)
Good to know, ia...I don't recall your mentioning that...Thought you might be one of the Rare Few, and sometimes, it's Lonely, at the top.

As you probably well know, OUr off-season leisure activities, here, in the cradle of Sooner Football, are watching paint dry, and watching grass grow...Your corn harvest sounds like a definite upgrade!
 
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iasooner1

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Yeah I'm a transplant: born & raised in TUL & the princess found me, moved here in '81 where I remain. It's nice for spring & summer but arctic (usually) from about Dec through April...
 
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My g-g-great grandparents were herded from Morgan County, Alabama to Haskell County, Oklahoma (Choctaw land) on the "Trail Where They Cried" ("Trail of Tears"). And no, I'm not Choctaw. My white Arkansas mother migrated from Sevier County, Arkansas to Haskell County, Oklahoma where she found my father.
 
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I cannot remember the whole thing without looking it up but when I was in grade school in TUL we were taught the 'whole list' of tribes represented and it started "Choctaw, Chickasaw..."
Since my family moved to Miama I've learned there are seven major tribes headquartered there that all are in the Casino binness now and there are 'Minor tribes' that no one have much heard of (Modoc is one).
 

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I cannot remember the whole thing without looking it up but when I was in grade school in TUL we were taught the 'whole list' of tribes represented and it started "Choctaw, Chickasaw..."
Since my family moved to Miama I've learned there are seven major tribes headquartered there that all are in the Casino binness now and there are 'Minor tribes' that no one have much heard of (Modoc is one).
That's about how far I got with it, too, ia...Choctaw, Chickasaw, Cherokee, and Creek were fairly easy...All 'C' Words, but the fifth, of the 5 Civilized Tribes, always eluded me...Seminoles. I had to stop and think about that one...
 

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The "tribes" are Nations. "Tribe" comes from white man. Native American is one born in the Americas. Anyone. "War Chief" comes from Hollywood.

I would never address a Comanche brother, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek, Blackfeet, Navajo, Kiowa, Umatilla, Lumbee, Fort Sill Apache and Apache as Native American. Not even a Crow or Flathead.
 
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iasooner1

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My bad SI; force of habit I suppose. No offense intended. Which nation was 'apportioned' the most territory in OK by the double-tongues ?
 
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virgie76712

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iasooner, I can't answer that one. I know the Osage and Chickasaw lands are pretty big geographically. Good subject. I'll study.

My public education at Taft Elementary in Lawton taught me what I am. Years later, Genelex Labs in Seattle confirmed. Our public education system doesn't seem to teach us we're Native Oklahomans and Native Americans anymore.
 
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The indian friends I had in the early years were surnamed Payne, Butler and McDonald. (there were more but its been too many moons...)
 
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The indian friends I had in the early years were surnamed Payne, Butler and McDonald. (there were more but its been too many moons...)
My Friends were named Whiteshield, Standingwater, Lone Elk, Pewo, Big Foot, Howling Water, Old Crow, Scabby, and other more descriptive names. No one was made fun of, or was 'Bullied' about, those names. Their names were different. Their skin was a different color, but they were our Classmates. They were our Friends. Life was simpler, then...
 

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Also, I dated a girl from my 'hood' whose last name was Crow and I believe both her parents were 100%-ers...
 

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100%-ers are actually pretty hard to come by. I know legions of Choctaw et al who's cards state less than 100% blood and many much, much less than 100%. American Indians are a vanishing breed. The US is indeed a melting pot.
 
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Yeah I don't (know) for sure about her. Schooner & I had a high school chum who was at least 1/8 to 1/4 Sioux from his Mom's side. He ended up being a lifer Marine chopper pilot/instructor
 
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iasooner, I can't answer that one. I know the Osage and Chickasaw lands are pretty big geographically. Good subject. I'll study.

My public education at Taft Elementary in Lawton taught me what I am. Years later, Genelex Labs in Seattle confirmed. Our public education system doesn't seem to teach us we're Native Oklahomans and Native Americans anymore.
 
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Crow died Apr. 3, 2016. "War chief" comes from Hollywood. Who knows beside Crow may have adopted such a title.

So Hollywood wrote the Constitution of the Iroquois Nation?

http://cscie12.dce.harvard.edu/ssi/iroquois/simple/4.shtml

"many Native American societies of the Great Plains during the preconquest era embraced the concept of a war chief (e.g., toyopki to the Kiowas; blotahunka among the Oglala Sioux) and constructed a cultural order that reinforced a military tradition"

http://plainshumanities.unl.edu/encyclopedia/doc/egp.war.052
 
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iasooner1

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So someone tell me please, do you see & hear Rock & Roll only or does the link continue to another song... (did I do it correctly) ??
 
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