If Beamer goes 5 - 7 will he be on the hot seat?

[Cobie]

Beamer is exactly ONE win better than Spurrier over the same period, he is only three wins ahead of Muschamp, 7 ahead of Holtz (Holtz had 0 wins his whole first season), he isn't exactly lighting up the record book. His big contract is a mark of stupidity on our administration more than it is somehow proof that Beamer is doing great.

I recall myself and plenty of other people talking about their disappointment with Spurrier after four seasons. He had lost at least 5 games every season and was 1-2 in bowl games at that point. He hardly looked like one of the greatest college coaches ever. I guess you and your crowd only remember the 2011 to 2013 seasons. Outside of those three seasons, Spurrier lost at least 5 games every season. Then, Spurrier quit on the team mid season because he lost interest in the team and the job, that is unforgivable in my book.

Beamer is doing well enough for South Carolina right now. Let's see how this season goes with all the hype and then we'll see if he keeps up the pace or if we start hearing about how he needs this or that to take the next step.

Botman - You're getting a bit silly at this point with these lame arguments.

You seem to continue to lose sight of the fact he's the best we've had after 4 seasons - which is exactly where we stand today.

The other coaches you named never had to deal with what Beamer is dealing with and Spurrier-has pointed that fact out more than once.

You need to pick up your game going into the season because you've been very sloppy of late.

I'll highlight these instances when I have time.

 

[Cobie]

This.

The bottom line is that all 3 were mediocre to begin. (Ill give Beamer and muschamp a nod for their 9 win seasons, this offset a losing season for each, imo. )

But comparing Beamer to Spurrier's worst years is not a compelling argument to me. If he can put together 2 or 3 11 win seasons, I'll start to compare the two.

I'd respond to this if you and Piscis weren't the exact same guy.

Holding conversations with yourself on a regular basis is very special.

 

[Piscis]

I'd respond to this if you and Piscis weren't the exact same guy.

Holding conversations with yourself on a regular basis is very special.

LOL; in another thread, you said Lurker and 18istheman were the same guy. Is everyone who points out how weak your arguments are one in the same person?

 

[will110]

Yeah, if Spurrier had gotten that extra cupcake 12th game, Beamer would be tied with him in wins. Of course, then some posters would be crowing about "he has matched the record of the best coach in Carolina history".

The bottom line is; both Beamer and Spurrier (Muschamp too, for that matter) have been a little better than mediocre in their records at this point in their careers at Carolina. In a 12 game season, coaches generally start the season with 4 or 5 wins in their pocket. Winning 7 games isn't exactly something to get effusive praise for.

He's not getting praise for winning 7 games. He's getting praise for the 8 win and 9 win seasons that included wins over top ten Clemson, the first ever win against Texas A&M and a win against a top ten Texas A&M, a blowout win over a top 5 Tennessee, and reversing our fortunes against Kentucky (along with quite a few other big wins).

If Beamer won 7 games each of his first four years without those big wins, nobody is excited or optimistic about the future.

 

[Lurker123]

LOL; in another thread, you said Lurker and 18istheman were the same guy. Is everyone who points out how weak your arguments are one in the same person?

You're me now too? Awesome. Welcome to the club.

I guess 18 is too now. You guys should meet Kingward, gaemcockstock and gamecockjacque. They're all "me" too. I think i was also Watson from the old board too. It's hard to keep up sometimes.

 

[Piscis]

He's not getting praise for winning 7 games. He's getting praise for the 8 win and 9 win seasons that included wins over top ten Clemson, the first ever win against Texas A&M and a win against a top ten Texas A&M, a blowout win over a top 5 Tennessee, and reversing our fortunes against Kentucky (along with quite a few other big wins).

If Beamer won 7 games each of his first four years without those big wins, nobody is excited or optimistic about the future.

I agree the Clemson and Tennessee wins were impressive but A&M was vastly overrated when we beat them. Beating UK shouldn't be anything to be especially proud of, they have never been any sort of football power.

This season will be the proof in the pudding. Beamer has his players, his coaches and his system in place. I predict 8-4 and, going forward, Carolina is going to be a 7/8 win a season program. That is probably good enough for the majority of fans.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

You're me now too? Awesome. Welcome to the club.

I guess 18 is too now. You guys should meet Kingward, gaemcockstock and gamecockjacque. They're all "me" too. I think i was also Watson from the old board too. It's hard to keep up sometimes.

So is this an exclusive club or can anyone join ?
Asking for a friend.

 

[Cobie]

You're me now too? Awesome. Welcome to the club.

I guess 18 is too now. You guys should meet Kingward, gaemcockstock and gamecockjacque. They're all "me" too. I think i was also Watson from the old board too. It's hard to keep up sometimes.

There's nothing better than a Botman BOT Rehab Campaign.

Lurker BOT is typically the goto for attempting to put out fires that other parts of Botman's brain have started.

Just one example (there's countless) from a couple of days ago.

Below is Lurker BOT explaining to a poster (COD) that his BOT-in-crime, Piscis, actually meant something much different than what everyone else thought.

Lurker has amazing intuition and is able to answer for others and what they are actually thinking.

Or, simpler explanation is that he was joking. The golf comment made it come across to me that way.

I think a lot of the angst for some posters could be lessened if other posters started putting smiley faces in their posts, to denote jokes. I think there's a lot more joking here than some realize.

 

[Lurker123]

So is this an exclusive club or can anyone join ?
Asking for a friend.

I think you have to be assigned. Ask WardJT, at least that was his name on the old board. Now he's Cobie.

You have my blessing though, for what its worth.

 

[Lurker123]

I predict 8-4 and, going forward, Carolina is going to be a 7/8 win a season program. That is probably good enough for the majority of fans.

I think that would be very agreeable to just about all the fans. There should be the occasional spike (like last year), but win 7/8 annually? He can retire from here.

 

[Cobie]

I think you have to be assigned. Ask WardJT, at least that was his name on the old board. Now he's Cobie.

You have my blessing though, for what its worth.

Botman - What have you done with poor Stock BOT?

This is no way to treat a former Paratrooper, Oil Barron and Contango specialist.

No one is going to believe someone with an advanced degree communicates in this fashion.

When I mentioned that many of the "BOT tells" include massive run-on sentence structures, you didn't need to take it to the other extreme.

I just remember now when I was in graduate school. There was a male USC cheerleader. In 1975, Clemson came into Williams-Brice with a 2-8 record. We beat them that year (Jeff Grantz' senior year) 56-20. When it was obvious that we were going to beat them, the male USC cheerleader led with " Moo, moo moo; Moo, moo, moo. Kiss my a**; kiss my behine, Clemson Tigers you're now 2-9". LMAO. Well, I still prefer female cheerleaders.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

And so we continue to study this lonesome and pitiful creature. In the wild!

 

[will110]

I agree the Clemson and Tennessee wins were impressive but A&M was vastly overrated when we beat them. Beating UK shouldn't be anything to be especially proud of, they have never been any sort of football power.

This season will be the proof in the pudding. Beamer has his players, his coaches and his system in place. I predict 8-4 and, going forward, Carolina is going to be a 7/8 win a season program. That is probably good enough for the majority of fans.

Denigrate the success if you want to. I choose to enjoy it.

 

[Cobie]

And so we continue to study this lonesome and pitiful creature. In the wild!

You've been very sloppy around town of late, Botman.

Try to sober up before the season starts.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

You've been very sloppy around town of late, Botman.

Try to sober up before the season starts.

Sure thing crazy person.

 

[Cobie]

Sure thing crazy person.

Jacque - It's unfortunate Botman has you as only a one-liner BOT.

However, you always seem to be in exactly the right place at exactly the right time and that's what counts in the end.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Jacque - It's unfortunate Botman has you as only a one-liner BOT.

However, you always seem to be in exactly the right place at exactly the right time and that's what counts in the end.

For the first time in my life I'm just going to put you on ignore and forget that you exist. You just give me tired head.

 

[Cobie]

For the first time in my life I'm just going to put you on ignore and forget that you exist. You just give me tired head.

LurkerBOT, 18istheBOT, StockBOT and JacqueBOT have now moved to silent mode.

The forever-troll Botman is breaking.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

 

[Cobie]

Ha. It's a total time suck to have a single individual trolling you with multiple opinions generated from the same mind.

Botman had no less than 30 accounts on the Rivals Board.

Many of those same accounts came to party here -- but there are new ones (18IsTheBot, etc) as well.

I'm figthing the good fight for your freedom.

 

[Lurker123]

I have officially moved to the status of the cat on the right. I just don't care anymore.

Responding in any way just gives the troll what he wants.

 

[Cobie]

I have officially moved to the status of the cat on the right. I just don't care anymore.

Responding in any way just gives the troll what he wants.

You need your tank cleaned. It smells and many are starting to notice.

We see you Botman.

 

[I4CtheFuture]

I don't see the reason for this hype you are talking about.

Sorry King, I didn't see that until today. - Right, wrong, or otherwise, there is some hype out there about Sellers, the Heisman maybe (although not very loud hype) and a possible playoff run for us this season at the very least.....

Is it accurate? Probably not. Realistic? Probably not. Is it out there, albeit quietly maybe?? Yes. - That's way more hype than we normally get. Look, I understand Beamer could go 0-12 this season and still wouldn't be fired. But he would be on the hot seat.

 

[gamecox4982]

Why does anyone care about what happen last year or the years before… in todays College Football World looking in the review mirror doesn’t matter… win now or go home - if he only gets 5 or less wins with this team I definitely think should be on the hot seat.

 

[KingWard]

Sorry King, I didn't see that until today. - Right, wrong, or otherwise, there is some hype out there about Sellers, the Heisman maybe (although not very loud hype) and a possible playoff run for us this season at the very least.....

Is it accurate? Probably not. Realistic? Probably not. Is it out there, albeit quietly maybe?? Yes. - That's way more hype than we normally get. Look, I understand Beamer could go 0-12 this season and still wouldn't be fired. But he would be on the hot seat.

Because of Sellers, unless Sellers gets hurt. Having had very few outstanding teams to support over the years, our fans go gaga over stars more than most.

 

[kidrobinski]

Because of Sellers, unless Sellers gets hurt. Having had very few outstanding teams to support over the years, our fans go gaga over stars more than most.

Still not seeing fans going gaga over Sellers or anyone else. I see hype from media outlets that have bylines, but i don't see fan going gaga. Optimism, yes. Some of our fans seem resent positivity and optimism. Wutevs.

 

[Lurker123]

Still not seeing fans going gaga over Sellers or anyone else. I see hype from media outlets that have bylines, but i don't see fan going gaga. Optimism, yes. Some of our fans seem resent positivity and optimism. Wutevs.

We have one poster saying sellers will be the top 1 or 2 qb's drafted this year. I think that qualifies as going gaga.

 

[Cobie]

We have one poster saying sellers will be the top 1 or 2 qb's drafted this year. I think that qualifies as going gaga.

And we have one disingenuous and clueless frog.

(middle of last season)

"I think the one we let slip away is at Liberty right now." (Lurker BOT)

"I would wager a lot of money that Chadwell will be coaching in a power conference long after Beamer is an analyst somewhere." (Lurker BOT)

"A neighbor friend of mine has a different TV service than I do. His service was not yet on due to the storm. I invited him over to watch the game. The guy is VERY football smart. During the game, he asked me a telling question: "What do you think of Beamer?". He knows what most of us know."

"Wait, "all his experience coaching"? You mean Beamer, the position coach?" (Lurker BOT)

https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/if-anyone-thinks-beamer.1556443/#post-31116938

The Shaman

 

[kidrobinski]

We have one poster saying sellers will be the top 1 or 2 qb's drafted this year. I think that qualifies as going gaga.

One poster? And this offends you?

 

[Cobie]

One poster? And this offends you?

It might not even be one. This frog has historically been full of it.

 

[Lurker123]

One poster? And this offends you?

Not even a little. Why would that offend me?

I'm merely pointing out a glaring example of something you said you're not seeing on the board.

 

[bayrooster]

Not even a little. Why would that offend me?

I'm merely pointing out a glaring example of something you said you're not seeing on the board.

"Let the man do his thing"

 

[KingWard]

Still not seeing fans going gaga over Sellers or anyone else. I see hype from media outlets that have bylines, but i don't see fan going gaga. Optimism, yes. Some of our fans seem resent positivity and optimism. Wutevs.

Still not seeing fans going gaga over Sellers or anyone else. I see hype from media outlets that have bylines, but i don't see fan going gaga. Optimism, yes. Some of our fans seem resent positivity and optimism. Wutevs.

We've got fans talking Heisman. Come on, now.

 

[Thunderstick]

You Beamer supporters are making good points, but I'm not sure I'm resigned to 5-7 or 6-6 as the norm with an occasional 8 or 9 win season every fifth year or so.

If you’re a longtime ’Cock fan you ARE resigned to those seasons.

 

[Skuddy]

He gone!

 

[bayrooster]

If you’re a longtime ’Cock fan you ARE resigned to those seasons.

That's like your opinion, man.

 

[USCEE82]

If you’re a longtime ’Cock fan you ARE resigned to those seasons.

Ha ha. Good point. I was speaking of the future!

 

[Cobie]

We've got fans talking Heisman. Come on, now.

That's becuase he's in the Top 5 of pretty much every Heisman Hopeful List there is right now.

IMO, the "Gaga" piece (whatever that means) are those who believe that we should make the playoffs w/ Sellers or fire the staff.

There's your delusional fans.

 

[kidrobinski]

We've got fans talking Heisman. Come on, now.

And this bothers you why?

 

[KingWard]

And this bothers you why?

Did I say it bothers me? I'm saying that asserting that some people aren't being prematurely euphorious is cracked.