If Iowa beats Michigan:

[PSUFTG]

I don't think the Hawkeyes will win, but if they do, and Oklahoma State wins the B12 game, guess who gets 4 teams into the New Year's Six?
The Big Ten, of course.
Michigan, Ohio State, Iowa, Michigan State - along with Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma State, Pitt/Wake winner, Utah/Oregon winner, Cincinnati, and Notre Dame,

For folks dreaming of a "higher than they should get" bowl for Penn State, that's the ticket there.
Penn State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Purdue would be jockeying for position for the Citrus and the Outback - with the other two dropping to the minor bowls.

 

[PineIslandLion]

As you’ve said, Iowa is not winning tomorrow (don’t see them scoring more than 10 points). But if they somehow pull off a miracle, no way 4 Big 10 teams getting a NY6 bowl. I believe Sparty would be the team left out.

 

[PSUFTG]

As you’ve said, Iowa is not winning tomorrow (don’t see them scoring more than 10 points). But if they somehow pull off a miracle, no way 4 Big 10 teams getting a NY6 bowl. I believe Sparty would be the team left out.

Who, do you think, would bump them? (I agree though, that the whole idea is highly unlikely. Like you, I doubt Iowa has much of a chance)

 

[BobPSU92]

iowa is not beating michigan tomorrow. Forget about it.

 

[PSUFBFAN]

iowa is not beating michigan tomorrow. Forget about it.

"illinois is not beating penn state, forget about it".

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

there is a better chance of Bob drinking a Bloody Mary in the morning and a 12 pack of Coors Lite in the afternoon than Michigan has of losing! Michigan will get every call..

 

[ODShowtime]

Michigan will get every call..

That is a solid prediction.

 

[PineIslandLion]

Who, do you think, would bump them? (I agree though, that the whole idea is highly unlikely. Like you, I doubt Iowa has much of a chance)

If Iowa wins, perhaps something like this:
Peach-Ole Miss vs Michigan
Fiesta-ND vs OSU
Rose-Iowa vs Utah/Oregon
Sugar-OU vs Alabama

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

iowa is not beating michigan tomorrow. Forget about it.

Always room for Jimmah to pull a classic Harbaugh. Remember, the meatchicken coach has been underwhelming since before our own.

 

[loinfan01]

I think Iowa can win the game. If they do, no big ten team gets in the playoff.

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

Always room for Jimmah to pull a classic Harbaugh. Remember, the meatchicken coach has been underwhelming since before our own.

O’Neill and crew will make sure Jimmah does not screw it up! Too much $$$ on the line

 

[PineIslandLion]

Who, do you think, would bump them? (I agree though, that the whole idea is highly unlikely. Like you, I doubt Iowa has much of a chance)

Also didn’t state in my original response that I suspect you’re feeling like MSU a NY6 lock cause of their current #11 ranking. Keep in mind there’s at least a few teams ranked behind them who earn NY6 bowl berth with con champ game win: the ACC champ to Orange and the PAC12 champ to Rose (if Utah). Oregon currently ranked above Sparty.

 

[PSUFTG]

If Iowa wins, perhaps something like this:
Peach-Ole Miss vs Michigan
Fiesta-ND vs OSU
Rose-Iowa vs Utah/Oregon
Sugar-OU vs Alabama

MSU is currently 3 spots ahead of OU, and neither have any more games to play. I know the "committee" is known to do some whacky things, but what would be the chances that they would move one team four spots over another, when neither play? Anyway, the fighting Harbaugh's will probably make it all moot.

 

[ManxomeLion]

there is a better chance of Bob drinking a Bloody Mary in the morning and a 12 pack of Coors Lite in the afternoon than Michigan has of losing! Michigan will get every call..

Is that with or without scones?

 

[PSUFTG]

Also didn’t state in my original response that I suspect you’re feeling like MSU a NY6 lock cause of their current #11 ranking. Keep in mind there’s at least a few teams ranked behind them who earn NY6 bowl berth with con champ game win: the ACC champ to Orange and the PAC12 champ to Rose (if Utah). Oregon currently ranked above Sparty.

No. I had both the ACC and P12 accounted for. Unless one of them, ACC or P12, gets 2 in over MSU - which would be just about impossible (No chance in the ACC, and just about 0 in the P12, would require Oregon to lose, and in so doing, not drop down a single spot, since MSU is right behind them with identical records.) - wouldn't matter. And, of course, the original premise was that Oklahoma State would win the B12 - thereby removing Baylor from contention for an at large.

 

[BW Lion]

iowa is not beating michigan tomorrow. Forget about it.

I agree. The B1G has already determined their preferred winner and will send their best crew to ensure the desired outcome.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

I agree. The B1G has already determined their preferred winner and will send their best crew to ensure the desired outcome.

But the Big 2(12) doesn’t have a “best crew”!

 

[PSUForever]

Even with an Iowa win I have a hard time seeing 4 B10 teams the in NY6. I would love to see PSU in the Outback but cannot take another key game against a quality opponent where we are right there for the win but cannot make any clutch plays down the stretch and lose.

 

[BW Lion]

But the Big 2(12) doesn’t have a “best crew”!

I used the adjective "best" as a veiled substitute for "corrupt". Fonzie has more ethics than any B1G zebras.

 

[GregInPitt]

If pigs fly....

 

[PineIslandLion]

MSU is currently 3 spots ahead of OU, and neither have any more games to play. I know the "committee" is known to do some whacky things, but what would be the chances that they would move one team four spots over another, when neither play? Anyway, the fighting Harbaugh's will probably make it all moot.

Don’t disagree at all with your point (which is logical), but just can’t see the Committee putting 4 Big 10 teams into the the NY6. With this said, who knows…perhaps they diss OU since since they’re coachless (shouldn’t be a factor, but they alluded to it when discussing ND).

 

[PSUFTG]

Don’t disagree at all with your point (which is logical), but just can’t see the Committee putting 4 Big 10 teams into the the NY6. With this said, who knows…perhaps they diss OU since since they’re coachless (shouldn’t be a factor, but they alluded to it when discussing ND).

FWIW, I think the SEC has had 4 in multiple times. I know they did last year. And I think the Big Ten did at least once - maybe the year, 2016, when PSU was left out of the playoff. But, yes, that may not be as likely for the Big Ten this year.

 

[blion72]

Also didn’t state in my original response that I suspect you’re feeling like MSU a NY6 lock cause of their current #11 ranking. Keep in mind there’s at least a few teams ranked behind them who earn NY6 bowl berth with con champ game win: the ACC champ to Orange and the PAC12 champ to Rose (if Utah). Oregon currently ranked above Sparty.

the conf tie ins impact this for sure. The ACC is still considered a P5 conf even in a year where Clemson accidentally does not win, so they get a NY6 spot. Iowa is not only not going to win, they are going to get hammered. The BIG East div is soooo much better than the West, and Iowa has just been lucky. they play field position, punting and depend totally on mistakes. their offense is in the bottom 2 of BIG. this will get ugly. Even say a miracle occurred and most of the UMich team has flu, and somehow Iowa wins 6-3 in OT, now the BIG has not team in playoff, unless Bama loses, Okie State loses, UC loses, ND loses without playing Oregon and Utah both lose in the immaculate deception, etc. You now have a bunch of 2 loss teams that are on the edge. The likely final 4 are going to be UGA, Umich, Okie State and UC. If Bama wins, then likely have UGA, BAMA, UM and UC. That is my favorite as UM then plays Bama and UGA if they were liucky to win that game (remember they were lucky to beat us with a 50% Clifford).

You now have the following BIG teams fighting for bowls
Iowa
OSU
MSU
Wisconsin
Purdue
Minnesota
Maryland

This group is fighting for Rose, Citrus, Outback Music City, Vegas and Pinstripe. Then there are other at large bowls. What is the demand for a 7-5 unranked team from the BIG.

 

[Schoolie]

I don't think the Hawkeyes will win, but if they do, and Oklahoma State wins the B12 game, guess who gets 4 teams into the New Year's Six?
The Big Ten, of course.
Michigan, Ohio State, Iowa, Michigan State - along with Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma State, Pitt/Wake winner, Utah/Oregon winner, Cincinnati, and Notre Dame,

For folks dreaming of a "higher than they should get" bowl for Penn State, that's the ticket there.
Penn State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Purdue would be jockeying for position for the Citrus and the Outback - with the other two dropping to the minor bowls.

Meh, at this point I could care less where it is. Just glad they’re getting more practice.That’s where I am with PSU’s football season. Sorry to report that.

 

[saturdaysarebetter]

 

[PSUriseANDfire]

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Wheatley was stopped at the 7 yard line on this play. The reach of that dude. Lmao

Actually think it will be a good game but the officials definitely have their marching orders.

I don't like Iowa either though. Michigan, MSU and then Iowa for me.

Don't even hate OSU.

 

[PSUFTG]

Meh, at this point I could care less where it is. Just glad they’re getting more practice.That’s where I am with PSU’s football season. Sorry to report th

Meh, at this point I could care less where it is. Just glad they’re getting more practice.That’s where I am with PSU’s football season. Sorry to report that.

Kind of feel the same.
Unfortunately, for the fans anyway, one of the downsides to the new college football calendars is that there really is not much meaningful practice time to be gained - not like it used to be. Back in the day, with seasons ending third week of November, and most bowl games not until January 1st, "pre-bowl" was nearly as meaningful as having an extra spring practice.
Now, with 1) The season running so much later, 2) The recruiting signing period taking place in December, and 3) So many of these no-one-cares-except-for-the-ESPN-programmers-and-the-coaches-bank-accounts" bowl games, that often take place well before January 1st, the pre-bowl practices mean very little, in most cases, if it's not one of the New Year's 6 level bowls.

Just using the Las Vegas Bowl as an example, if PSU were to go to someplace like that. Penn State finished the season on November 27th - and the coaches immediately left to hit the recruiting trail - and will be focused on recruiting until December 15th. They will have, literally, a couple of days before Christmas - to maybe put together some half-assed "gameplan" for the team they will face in the bowl, the team will fly out for a couple of days at the bowl site, and that's it.

Before all the changes, a squad in a big bowl game would have three weeks or more of "camp", where they could spend a lot of time with developing kids, adjust and add to things they were doing on offense and defense, and address issues, and then get another week or so of actual practice time in at the bowl site. You would often, back in those days, see young guys who really didn't factor in much during the season, but kind of had a coming out party during the bowl. And coaches - and Paterno was notorious for this - putting together tweaks and adjustments to the system to really confound the bowl opponent. It is not really like that anymore - not for the paycheck bowls anyway.

 

[Schoolie]

Kind of feel the same.
Unfortunately, for the fans anyway, one of the downsides to the new college football calendars is that there really is not much meaningful practice time to be gained - not like it used to be. Back in the day, with seasons ending third week of November, and most bowl games not until January 1st, "pre-bowl" was nearly as meaningful as having an extra spring practice.
Now, with 1) The season running so much later, 2) The recruiting signing period taking place in December, and 3) So many of these no-one-cares-except-for-the-ESPN-programmers-and-the-coaches-bank-accounts" bowl games, that often take place well before January 1st, the pre-bowl practices mean very little, in most cases, if it's not one of the New Year's 6 level bowls.

Just using the Las Vegas Bowl as an example, if PSU were to go to someplace like that. Penn State finished the season on November 27th - and the coaches immediately left to hit the recruiting trail - and will be focused on recruiting until December 15th. They will have, literally, a couple of days before Christmas - to maybe put together some half-assed "gameplan" for the team they will face in the bowl, the team will fly out for a couple of days at the bowl site, and that's it.

Before all the changes, a squad in a big bowl game would have three weeks or more of "camp", where they could spend a lot of time with developing kids, adjust and add to things they were doing on offense and defense, and address issues, and then get another week or so of actual practice time in at the bowl site. You would often, back in those days, see young guys who really didn't factor in much during the season, but kind of had a coming out party during the bowl. And coaches - and Paterno was notorious for this - putting together tweaks and adjustments to the system to really confound the bowl opponent. It is not really like that anymore - not for the paycheck bowls anyway.

Yes, I remember the photos in the newspapers of Penn State players on the beaches around Miami when they used to go to the Orange Bowl. Very sadly the old days are gone.

 

[BUFFALO LION]

I don't think the Hawkeyes will win, but if they do, and Oklahoma State wins the B12 game, guess who gets 4 teams into the New Year's Six?
The Big Ten, of course.
Michigan, Ohio State, Iowa, Michigan State - along with Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma State, Pitt/Wake winner, Utah/Oregon winner, Cincinnati, and Notre Dame,

For folks dreaming of a "higher than they should get" bowl for Penn State, that's the ticket there.
Penn State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Purdue would be jockeying for position for the Citrus and the Outback - with the other two dropping to the minor bowls.

Are you saying if Iowa wins, the Big Ten will still get a team in the CFP Final Four? Because if you’re not, it would be next to impossible for the Big Ten to get four teams in the NY6 because of the Sugar Bowl tie in.

 

[psu31trap]

If Iowa wins, perhaps something like this:
Peach-Ole Miss vs Michigan
Fiesta-ND vs OSU
Rose-Iowa vs Utah/Oregon
Sugar-OU vs Alabama

If Michigan losses I see a real chance for Notre Dame making the playoffs.

 

[Nits74]

I agree. The B1G has already determined their preferred winner and will send their best crew to ensure the desired outcome.

Be that as it may, under no circumstances can I hope Iowa wins. I despise everything about that program and its trash fanbase.

 

[Alphalion75]

I don't think the Hawkeyes will win, but if they do, and Oklahoma State wins the B12 game, guess who gets 4 teams into the New Year's Six?
The Big Ten, of course.
Michigan, Ohio State, Iowa, Michigan State - along with Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma State, Pitt/Wake winner, Utah/Oregon winner, Cincinnati, and Notre Dame,

For folks dreaming of a "higher than they should get" bowl for Penn State, that's the ticket there.
Penn State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Purdue would be jockeying for position for the Citrus and the Outback - with the other two dropping to the minor bowls.

I'm glad you did this analysis. I don't have the time nor the IQ to think that through.

 

[bdgan]

To be honest I find it difficult to watch these games. I usually root for teams ahead of PSU to lose so that PSU can move up in the polls. Unfortunately we're so far below any poll ranking that it doesn't matter.

I dislike Iowa but I dislike Michigan more. I guess I'll root for Iowa.