If Michigan State can do it....

Beatle Bum

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I was wrong about the MSU/Bama matchup. It was one that I was really looking forward to, thinking the whole game would be much like the first quarter. I thought Bama would win a low scoring close one. I knew Sparty would struggle to score, but thought they would hang about 10-13 on the Tide and lost by 7-10. I did not consider Coker going off, rather I thought Henry would eventually wear MSU down.

Wow. Was I wrong. I bought the MSU narrative, watched them battle out too many close games in the Big Ten and thought Bama could not take advantage of their secondary. Giving the Big Ten too much credit was my main mistake.
 
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Big John Stud

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Please....can we never use them again to prove that talent isn't an issue. They have talent and experience, yet, the SEC made them look ridiculous. The difference is, Alabama has MORE talent and the same experience.
The SEC didn't make them look ridiculous, Alabama did. We play Florida, UGA, UT, USC Jr, Mizzou, Vandy, MSU, and a random west team. None of those are the caliber of Alabama.
 

merrimanm

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The SEC didn't make them look ridiculous, Alabama did. We play Florida, UGA, UT, USC Jr, Mizzou, Vandy, MSU, and a random west team. None of those are the caliber of Alabama.
UT almost beat Alabama and it could be argued that they should have.
UF played them tough in the SEC championship game. It was not a beat down like last night.
Bama beat a UGA team pretty good the week after losing their best player and they went into a lull until getting things sorted out.
MSU also played Alabama way closer than MSU.
USC beat a UNC team that was in the discussion for a playoff spot and nearly beat Clemson, and one could argue should have.

So again, I have seen people on this board say WKU could beat us because they beat Vandy, so by that same logic, MSU proved they would lose quit a bit in the SEC.
 

NoDef

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In in a crappy year, USC beat UNC and almost beat Clemson.
You can pick and choose scores all day. A mid pack ACC UofL beat an 8-4 SEC team. Anyone can win on a given day against most of these teams in P5 conferences. Citadel beat that same SEC team you used in the example.
 

Beatle Bum

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You can pick and choose scores all day. A mid pack ACC UofL beat an 8-4 SEC team. Anyone can win on a given day against most of these teams in P5 conferences. Citadel beat that same SEC team you used in the example.

We can avoid the fact that A&M had a third stinger and barely lost. Clemson and UNC do not have such excuses. If we cannot talk about the games actually played ....
 

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NoDef, you appear to me to be one of those people who is never wrong, or won't admit it when you are. I don't think we know how Stoops is going to turn out. We will know in the next couple of years, since he has who he wants as his assistants.
Try thinking who ever the coach is, as a new hire, he is going to be successful. Life will be a lot better, and I guarantee you will be happier. It appears by your posts, that your glass is always half empty.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

Nope just watching on the field screw ups. Stoops is learning on the job and hopefully he makes adjustments. He is probably here at least three more years or more. Him and MB will either make it together or leave together.
 

merrimanm

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You can pick and choose scores all day. A mid pack ACC UofL beat an 8-4 SEC team. Anyone can win on a given day against most of these teams in P5 conferences. Citadel beat that same SEC team you used in the example.
I agree, any given day. But you use the UL game as an example. But you fail to mention that that 8-4 SEC team was starting a freshman QB making his first start. Pretty sure that was his first game minutes in general, had some other key guys out including a really good WR, and UL still barely won.
 

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We can avoid the fact that A&M had a third stinger and barely lost. Clemson and UNC do not have such excuses. If we cannot talk about the games actually played ....
UofL didnt even start the QB that started in their last game of the season. That 8-4 A&M had inconsistent QB play all year and finished with that. The gap is not as huge as some think in the mid-pack SEC and the others. The difference is at the very top.
 
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Beatle Bum

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UofL didnt even start the QB that played in their last game of the season. That 8-4 A&M had inconsistent QB play all year and finished with that. The gap is not as huge as some think in the mid-pack SEC and the others. The difference is at the very top.

LOL

UL played their best QB. If you watched the game, which I assume most UL fans did, you saw UL play defense much the same way UK played Bonnafon last year, stopping run and putting pressure on QB. A better QB wins that game for A&M. Hubanek could not hit wide open WRs, giving up at least two wide open TDs in the first half.

But, you can recreate the history of that game all you want.
 

domino79

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Never seen anyone play the What If game more than Merriman.
And no one has ever argued if Michigan state can do it, we can, too argument.
Silly.
 

Blue Decade

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Quit trying to lump us in with the SEC. All we are doing is currently playing in it. Bama is at another level to all but a couple of teams in the league and those teams are in the west. Nobody else in our league is capable of laying that kind of thumping on MSU. They might throw in one clunker in one of their 12 games, but if they played everyone in the league in a best of five they win four against anyone.
This is the way people talk when they are content to be average. Being average works for people who are risk averse. Alabama plays under the same set of rules as everyone else. They are just better at it right now. Alabama's success should serve as a motivating force for all SEC football programs. What Saban and his predecessors have accomplished at Alabama doesn't happen overnight. It takes strategic thinking, commitment, courage. I know some people on this board don't believe this, but it can happen anywhere including here. Kentucky is an SEC member. Kentucky will always be an SEC member. We should take pride in that and accept the challenge.
 

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I look at these bowl games and think that UK and Vandy probably wish they played in another league and it would increase their chances of getting into a bowl game every year about three fold.