If South won independence in Civil War when/why/how would slavery have ended?

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This is sort of a prediction thread. Instead of the North winning in 1865, suppose the South won their independence and the war ended in 1865. What then? What happens to the territories out west that weren't states yet? How long would slavery have endured? Why and how would it have ended? For that matter, WOULD it have ended?
 

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This is sort of a prediction thread. Instead of the North winning in 1865, suppose the South won their independence and the war ended in 1865. What then? What happens to the territories out west that weren't states yet? How long would slavery have endured? Why and how would it have ended? For that matter, WOULD it have ended?

It would have ended when Chuck Norris said so
 

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Very interesting question. I believe it would have lasted for several more years, maybe until WW1 or WW2.
 

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Very interesting question. I believe it would have lasted for several more years, maybe until WW1 or WW2.
Well, when you consider that most Southerners didn't want them to have any equal rights after emancipation, I think you are correct. It took almost 100 years after emancipation before Blacks even sniffed the beginnings of any meaningful rights. And many were murdered trying to attain them.
 

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This is sort of a prediction thread. Instead of the North winning in 1865, suppose the South won their independence and the war ended in 1865. What then? What happens to the territories out west that weren't states yet? How long would slavery have endured? Why and how would it have ended? For that matter, WOULD it have ended?
It would have ended when Bear Bryant realized he needed faster running backs to win national championships
 

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It would have ended when Bear Bryant realized he needed faster running backs to win national championships
Actually won National Championships with and without black players equally. Really, not all people in the South discriminate, as some sate.
 

RichardPeterJohnson

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Actually won National Championships with and without black players equally. Really, not all people in the South discriminate, as some sate.

All of the SEC discriminated against Black football players until 1967 despite the 1954 ruling (Brown v. Board of Education) that segregation in public schools was unconstitutional. UK was the first to have a Black player. Alabama had their first in 1971. Ole Miss and LSU had no Black players until 1972. 1972. I mean, you can look it up.
 

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This is sort of a prediction thread. Instead of the North winning in 1865, suppose the South won their independence and the war ended in 1865. What then? What happens to the territories out west that weren't states yet? How long would slavery have endured? Why and how would it have ended? For that matter, WOULD it have ended?
The South would not have survived long on its own. By 1865 its infrastructure had been destroyed, civil society was in chaos, tens of thousands of people were all but homeless and starving, and almost half of their slaves had run off and would not have been returned. The states squabbled among themselves and with the central government in Richmond. Its currency was near worthless, and not one single foreign nation had recognized the Confederate States of America as France, Holland, and Spain had done for the U.S. in 1778. As for the western territories, France had 50,000 troops in Mexico and could have marched into Texas or Arizona virtually unopposed, and if the Confederacy sent what was left of its armies west they'd have been annihilated either by the French or by the Indians.
 

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They would have been defeated by the Third Reich in the Battle of New York, hours after the Nazi's dropped the Atomic Bomb on Richmond.
 

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This is sort of a prediction thread. Instead of the North winning in 1865, suppose the South won their independence and the war ended in 1865. What then? What happens to the territories out west that weren't states yet? How long would slavery have endured? Why and how would it have ended? For that matter, WOULD it have ended?

To be honest, probably the 1950's or 1960's. And then that would have occurred during the Cold War, with our attentions elsewhere, and secession may have happened and we might have been in a war with the South instead of Korea or Vietnam, because the south would have reached out to the USSR for assistance (enemy of my enemy thing).