If Stoops goes 8-4 will he leave UK for greener pastures?

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I say no.

Seems silly to even contemplate considering that the dude is struggling to beat less talented teams and getting TERRIBLY outcoached by teams such as La. Lafayette, Eastern Kentucky, Vanderbilt, teams with noticeably less talent but far better gamelans and in game decision making from their coaches.

Dude is a marginally better recruiter than we're used to around here (putting us in the 11-14 range in SEC recruiting rankings) but it is yet to be seen if he and the staff that he handpicked are any better than the likes of Joker and Randy Sanders as far as actual coaching and not just recruiting and being a hype man for the program.

As far as pure coaching it would be hard to convince me that Joker and the sand man couldn't win 5 games with last year's talent. Heck, at least when Joker was coach the East had Florida which was rolling with Urban Meyer, South Carolina was rolling, Georgia was rolling, Vandy was solid with James Franklin. Stoops has stepped in when the East was literally as wide open as its ever been (or ever will be) and has failed to take any real meaningful step up the SEC ladder. The guy has been all hype/coachspeak with very little substance to back it up. His in-game decision making in games against Vandy, Auburn, and U of L last year were some of the worst things I've ever seen from a UK coach. He got blown out by an unranked Tennessee at home. He got blown out and embarrassed by an unranked Mississippi State team. He got manhandled by the worst Georgia team that we've seen in 30 years on his way to another late season collapse. Anyone that has any sort of faith in this dude's coaching ability at this point is basing it solely on their love for UK and nothing else. Nothing we have seen from this guy can make an objective person sit back and say 'Wow, that guy's in-game coaching ability and game prep sure gives me hope for the future'. Name one player that has actually gotten BETTER under this guy and his staff. Where is the player development?

Marginally better recruiting alone isn't enough to get it done folks, not in this league anyways. You need solid recruiting with innovative coaching..especially at a place like Kentucky where you're not going to out-Alabama, Alabama.
 
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It's a crap shot for the bottom tier of the SEC East...which teams are always a constant?
 

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Recruiting, rankings....blah, blah and blah....UK and Candy have been a 5/6 or 6/5 way before Stoops and co.
 
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Seems silly to even contemplate considering that the dude is struggling to beat less talented teams and getting TERRIBLY outcoached by teams such as La. Lafayette, Eastern Kentucky, Vanderbilt, teams with noticeably less talent but far better gamelans and in game decision making from their coaches.

Dude is a marginally better recruiter than we're used to around here (putting us in the 11-14 range in SEC recruiting rankings) but it is yet to be seen if he and the staff that he handpicked are any better than the likes of Joker and Randy Sanders as far as actual coaching and not just recruiting and being a hype man for the program.

As far as pure coaching it would be hard to convince me that Joker and the sand man couldn't win 5 games with last year's talent. Heck, at least when Joker was coach the East had Florida which was rolling with Urban Meyer, South Carolina was rolling, Georgia was rolling, Vandy was solid with James Franklin. Stoops has stepped in when the East was literally as wide open as its ever been (or ever will be) and has failed to take any real meaningful step up the SEC ladder. The guy has been all hype/coachspeak with very little substance to back it up. His in-game decision making in games against Vandy, Auburn, and U of L last year were some of the worst things I've ever seen from a UK coach. He got blown out by an unranked Tennessee at home. He got blown out and embarrassed by an unranked Mississippi State team. He got manhandled by the worst Georgia team that we've seen in 30 years on his way to another late season collapse. Anyone that has any sort of faith in this dude's coaching ability at this point is basing it solely on their love for UK and nothing else. Nothing we have seen from this guy can make an objective person sit back and say 'Wow, that guy's in-game coaching ability and game prep sure gives me hope for the future'. Name one player that has actually gotten BETTER under this guy and his staff. Where is the player development?

Marginally better recruiting alone isn't enough to get it done folks, not in this league anyways. You need solid recruiting with innovative coaching..especially at a place like Kentucky where you're not going to out-Alabama, Alabama.

Marginally better recruiter? If you don't think he's a much better recruiter than Joker then you don't know talent. Was Stoops outcoached in some games, absolutely. I'm sure Joker did a great job ending his career here at 2-10. By the way, how can Stoops be a marginal recruiter but Joker could win 5 with the talent, yet Joker won 2 games his last year? Also, we don't have to out-Alabama Alabama, we play them a couple of times per decade. Making players better? Ever heard of our DBs? Maybe you've heard of Toth?
 
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Marginally better recruiter? If you don't think he's a much better recruiter than Joker then you don't know talent. Was Stoops outcoached in some games, absolutely. I'm sure Joker did a great job ending his career here at 2-10. By the way, how can Stoops be a marginal recruiter but Joker could win 5 with the talent, yet Joker won 2 games his last year? Also, we don't have to out-Alabama Alabama, we play them a couple of times per decade. Making players better? Ever heard of our DBs? Maybe you've heard of Toth?
folks, I don't what it is with UK football...I feel like the football program is a freaking rollercoaster. Up/down/up/down....hopes UP....hopes down...Idk...let's see how this season plays out.
 

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Next year's team should be better than this year, so I think he has motivation to stay, but it depends on who offered
CC....only one coach, within that last 18yrs, who didn't care who the team was, Florida Spurrier, Louisville kragthorpe,cooper (whom ever at the dirty birds), Bama etc...it was Mumme, it was fun and exciting.... He went at everyone...
 

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CC....only one coach, within that last 18yrs, who didn't care who the team was, Florida Spurrier, Louisville kragthorpe,cooper (whom ever at the dirty birds), Bama etc...it was Mumme, it was fun and exciting.... He went at everyone...
then he went down hill, after 1998...lol