If we bring Shane back next year

[sclawman77]

I don't see how he recovers after the embarrassment on Saturday. He's a complete laughingstock now. He's lost the fans now too-a large majority. I guess beating Clemson is the only thing we have to play for now this season and that's not a given.

If you bring him back next year there is going to be immense pressure and spotlight about the expectations and win total needed to keep his job. It will be a major distraction. What a disaster.

 

[18IsTheMan]

We will probably end up going 6–6, and everyone will be celebrating the massive improvement.

 

[I4CtheFuture]

I know I'm in the minority here, and honestly my mood shifts on the subject from hour to hour......

But:

I do believe the guy knows how to coach. We have beaten several ranked teams under Beamer when in reality we had very little business beating those teams. It's happened more than enough for me to chalk it up to coincidence. No... that doesn't happen by accident. He knows what he's doing. I am convinced of that. He also knows how to recruit and apparently he's pretty good at spotting "raw talent" - IE: Harbor.

But ultimately, I believe I've seen enough evidence that he seems to have some sort of ego problem that just will not allow him to hire "real coaches" along the OL and OC positions...(for fear of being shown up???) and I firmly believe that if we lose to Clemson, that will be final nail in the coffin for the already restless fanbase this season and I do believe he will be fired. I know many on here will rejoice in that firing...but I've been around long enough to know that it will just reset the meter for another 5 year experiment that likely won't work out either.

TLDR: His decisions to hire completely inferior OC's and keeping a completely inept OL coach for 3 years will likely be his undoing. Bottom line.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

I know I'm in the minority here, and honestly my mood shifts on the subject from hour to hour......

But:

I do believe the guy knows how to coach. We have beaten several ranked teams under Beamer when in reality we had very little business beating those teams. It's happened more than enough for me to chalk it up to coincidence. No... that doesn't happen by accident. He knows what he's doing. I am convinced of that. He also knows how to recruit and apparently he's pretty good at spotting "raw talent" - IE: Harbor.

But ultimately, I believe I've seen enough evidence that he seems to have some sort of ego problem that just will not allow him to hire "real coaches" along the OL and OC positions...(for fear of being shown up???) and I firmly believe that if we lose to Clemson, that will be final nail in the coffin for the already restless fanbase this season and I do believe he will be fired. I know many on here will rejoice in that firing...but I've been around long enough to know that it will just reset the meter for another 5 year experiment that likely won't work out either.

TLDR: His decisions to hire completely inferior OC's and keeping a completely inept OL coach for 3 years will likely be his undoing. Bottom line.

The fact that he's not a real coach was his undoing. That's the bottom line.

 

[1vagamecock]

I know I'm in the minority here, and honestly my mood shifts on the subject from hour to hour......

But:

I do believe the guy knows how to coach. We have beaten several ranked teams under Beamer when in reality we had very little business beating those teams. It's happened more than enough for me to chalk it up to coincidence. No... that doesn't happen by accident. He knows what he's doing. I am convinced of that. He also knows how to recruit and apparently he's pretty good at spotting "raw talent" - IE: Harbor.

But ultimately, I believe I've seen enough evidence that he seems to have some sort of ego problem that just will not allow him to hire "real coaches" along the OL and OC positions...(for fear of being shown up???) and I firmly believe that if we lose to Clemson, that will be final nail in the coffin for the already restless fanbase this season and I do believe he will be fired. I know many on here will rejoice in that firing...but I've been around long enough to know that it will just reset the meter for another 5 year experiment that likely won't work out either.

TLDR: His decisions to hire completely inferior OC's and keeping a completely inept OL coach for 3 years will likely be his undoing. Bottom line.

Maybe a minority on the board, but I think a lot of people don't want to start over yet.

 

[Evilchicken]

Why give him next year??? This team will not be the same, and it won’t have the talent! Next year is an inevitable step back, even for Beaner. Fire him after Clemson

 

[18IsTheMan]

I know I'm in the minority here, and honestly my mood shifts on the subject from hour to hour......

But:

I do believe the guy knows how to coach. We have beaten several ranked teams under Beamer when in reality we had very little business beating those teams. It's happened more than enough for me to chalk it up to coincidence. No... that doesn't happen by accident. He knows what he's doing. I am convinced of that. He also knows how to recruit and apparently he's pretty good at spotting "raw talent" - IE: Harbor.

But ultimately, I believe I've seen enough evidence that he seems to have some sort of ego problem that just will not allow him to hire "real coaches" along the OL and OC positions...(for fear of being shown up???) and I firmly believe that if we lose to Clemson, that will be final nail in the coffin for the already restless fanbase this season and I do believe he will be fired. I know many on here will rejoice in that firing...but I've been around long enough to know that it will just reset the meter for another 5 year experiment that likely won't work out either.

TLDR: His decisions to hire completely inferior OC's and keeping a completely inept OL coach for 3 years will likely be his undoing. Bottom line.

Unfortunately, a MAJOR part of being a head coach is hiring good assistants.

I think Shane has some good instincts as a head coach, but those instincts have largely not led to making good assistant hires. Aside from Lembo and White, all others have been suspect.

To me, the greatest, inexcusable tragedy was the two-headed mistake of retaining a known liability in Teasley and making an extremely lazy hire by promoting Shula to OC. Those two decisions doomed this season, and it was all-too-predictable. We all knew Teasley was terrible. Our horrendous OL was the least shocking thing this season. Shula, at 59 years old, had never called plays in college before and really had scant college experience overall.

I'll never get over the Teasley move. He SHOULD have been fired after the '23 season. He never had any business being OL coach here in the first place. It was a mistake to bring him back for the '24 season. Bringing him back this season was criminal.

 

[Legal_fowl]

Beamer is not a good coach because he is too up and down. He should have walked into that locker room at halftime scowling at the players for celebrating so early. Instead, he was high-fiving and celebrating with them. Good coaches are stoic in the face of big leads like that. Celebrate at the end of the game.

 

[BoneSpur]

It seems that the last two coaches at USC just could not make in-game adjustments. aTm obviously made adjustments at halftime, and we did not, other than running a semi-prevent zone. Which resulted in 28 straight points. Muschamp couldn't do it either. That is the difference between a mediocre coach and a high-tier coach.

We are getting what we hired, mediocrity. I no longer blame the coaches, I blame those that hired them in the first place. As an outsider looking in, it seems the BOT just don't really care. We sell out every home game regardless of our record. We are in the SEC, so we are bringing in millions.

I don't see this pattern ending any time soon. Spurrier proved it could be done, but then we went right back down after 3 successful years, and he quit on us.

 

[sclawman77]

Beamer is not a good coach because he is too up and down. He should have walked into that locker room at halftime scowling at the players for celebrating so early. Instead, he was high-fiving and celebrating with them. Good coaches are stoic in the face of big leads like that. Celebrate at the end of the game.

Precisely. Leave it to Shane to try to amp up our fans in a hostile environment at halftime. And you don't talk about how we whipped them last year-you remind everyone that there's two quarters left in the game. Don't kids learn that in sports at like 5 years old?

 

[SouthernBelly]

Precisely. Leave it to Shane to try to amp up our fans in a hostile environment at halftime. And you don't talk about how we whipped them last year-you remind everyone that there's two quarters left in the game. Don't kids learn that in sports at like 5 years old?

Elko was asked a couple weeks ago about how A&M tends to collapse. He redirected the question to “how about we enjoy & appreciate what this team is doing right now.” Beamer’s bringing up last season and saying he wasn’t surprised was both stupid and a lie, respectively. One guy will likely play for the SEC & make the playoffs in his second year with his team. The other isn’t close to a winning season in his 5th.

 

[gamecox4982]

Beamer is not a good coach because he is too up and down. He should have walked into that locker room at halftime scowling at the players for celebrating so early. Instead, he was high-fiving and celebrating with them. Good coaches are stoic in the face of big leads like that. Celebrate at the end of the game.

Beamer is not a coach, he‘s the team’s manager… he couldn’t draw up a play if his life depended upon it

 

[Lurker123]

Unfortunately, a MAJOR part of being a head coach is hiring good assistants.

I know it was message board banter, but one of the reasons to hire Beamer was that he was cheap, was going to be a CEO type coach, and would pull in great assistants. His lack of coaching experience was specifically supposed to be countered by his ability to put together a great staff.

And now to conclude that is one of his major weaknesses?

To go back and dig up some of those threads would be very entertaining right now.

 

[Lurker123]

That being said, I bet you we're all going to be surprised how quickly the optimism returns if we manage to beat Clemson.

 

[SouthernBelly]

That being said, I bet you we're all going to be surprised how quickly the optimism returns if we manage to beat Clemson.

Won’t be surprised at all, it’s a thing that happens. Won’t be participating. Don’t care if they skull drag Clemson. Next year will be another losing season.

 

[bayrooster]

I know it was message board banter, but one of the reasons to hire Beamer was that he was cheap, was going to be a CEO type coach, and would pull in great assistants. His lack of coaching experience was specifically supposed to be countered by his ability to put together a great staff.

And now to conclude that is one of his major weaknesses?

To go back and dig up some of those threads would be very entertaining right now.

What's the point of hiring someone on the cheap to end up paying them $8 million for one above average season?

 

[Builderman]

Fire
Beamer and it’s just another ground hogs day.
after 45 years of being a fan, it just doesn’t matter anymore.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Fire
Beamer and it’s just another ground hogs day.
after 45 years of being a fan, it just doesn’t matter anymore.

Still matters to me. Weird, I know.