Here is the problem with this ridiculousness. People don’t read the science. They listen to the politicians and they read the news articles, like you prefer to post, that parse the science to get hits. For example, how many times have you posted about the benefits to a warmer climate and the benefits to increased CO2 in the atmosphere? Yeah, we aren’t serious about this stuff so we should quit pretending.
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Scientists slam Trump administration climate report as a ‘farce’ full of misinformation
Experts say the report being used to justify the mass rollback of climate regulations has many claims based on long-debunked research
www.theguardian.com
Check this article.
No. Don't care what Brits think about American policy.
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What you don't get is that "us switching" just means someone else is profiting, experts are bought too, and "the science" is easily fudged.
Which is another blaring aspect of it, the blatant hypocrisy. You pulling out your bin on recycle day is not "doing your part;" if you actually believed the Science™, then you'd put your money where your mouth is and live self-sufficiently, subsistently.
All of "your" fixes requires nothing of you... shift the burden onto someone else with no regard to downstream consequences.
Yeah, this ain’t political.Scientists slam Trump administration climate report as a ‘farce’ full of misinformation
Experts say the report being used to justify the mass rollback of climate regulations has many claims based on long-debunked research
Check this article.
. Not a bad idea.Please ignore what your eyes tell you, and hand your property over to the state.
If anyone believes that humans can impact the climate, they’re too dumb to live.
I assume @GJNorman1 is staunchly against ai, right? I mean since these giant ai data centers consume insane amounts of energy. One of those centers uses as much energy as an entire city of around 2 million people. That doesn't even get into water used for cooling.
So until all your people start acting alarmed over these giant power sucking behemoths, I don't want to hear a word about the car I drive or the food i eat
So until all your people start acting alarmed over these giant power sucking behemoths, I don't want to hear a word about the car I drive or the food i eat
It's so on the mark that it took a lefty needing insane amounts of power for nuclear to be back in the discussion. Wind and solar for you plebs. Gates needs something slightly more dependable.
Normy will be in here shortly to tell us he has always been for nuclear. That or Gates isn't real lefty.
Odds?
I don’t know what to make of AI. But, looks like there’s no stopping it. It’s on its way, like it or not.
You may not know this, but now you will. Oracle just signed a deal with bloom energy to power their AI with hydrogen. Green hydrogen, emits zero carbon.
A fuel cell power plant can power the AI without emissions. Check out what bloom energy is doing with Oracle.
Nuclear is great until it goes wrong
Nuclear also takes a long time to build
He has resorted to reading, believing and posting a Washington Post article to try and prove a point.
So you don't know what to think of ai despite the fact one server farm consumes the power of a large city. Got it.
This confirms the very real issue i have with so many global warming pushers. The only consistency in their arguments is they only side with whatever their political allies want. Facts be damned.
Learn me! What is your take on Ai?
I own a little Nvidia. I do know there are zero emission power sources for all this chit.
A green Hydrogen powered fuel cell power plant can power small cities.
you could run all the AI off fuel Cell power plants and emit zero carbon.
I’m good with safe nuclear if there is such a thing
Unsafe nuclear caused huge damage in Chernobyl in the surrounding areas. And by surrounding areas, I mean 1000 mi.².
The Chernobyl nuclear disaster left approximately 1,000 square miles(2,600 square kilometers) uninhabitable and designated as an exclusion zone. This area, a 30km radius around the plant, was deemed unsafe for human habitation due to radioactive contamination.
Not directly related to this thread, but here is a detailed recent look at the make-up of Congress. I found it interesting to review and consider:
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47470
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47470
Oracle is contracting Bloom Energy to power Ai, using zero emission green H2
I have owned Bloom energy stock for years. Stock symbol is BE. They turned a profit in Q2. They have a low float, making it hard for shorts to attack. If other AI companies start to contract them, they will really blow up. JP Morgan is a believer.
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In terms if energy consumption and climate concerns, it is by far the biggest drain on resources in recorded history.
Also the alternative energy pursued, to the extent it is, has zero to do with carbon etc. Its about feeding this insatiable energy beast.
Anyone with climate concerns should absolutely oppose each and every one of these server farms.
No reactor in the West has the terribly flawed design that the Chernobyl reactor did.
So-called "renewables" (specifically, wind and solar) have a place in the energy mix, but their intermittency is a huge problem, not just for grid stability, but also the amount of battery capacity that would need to be constructed to guarantee a reliable supply from those sources is an insurmountable hurdle at this point.
In terms of non-nuclear renewables, hydro and geothermal energy deserve much more investment than wind or solar. The energy mix of the future will be centered on nuclear, natural gas, hydro, and geothermal, which deliver clean, reliable baseload power and can be ramped up easily for peak demand.
Mr. Norman can speak for himself, but as for me, I certainly support nuclear as part of the equation (and if you look, I guarantee you can find any number of posts in previous threads, where I have said so)
The problem lies with the politicians pushing this issue. People here can say they support nuclear but if the liberal politicians who make money off this issue won’t move toward nuclear, the issue remains. Left politicians thrive on this issue and while they have recently given spoken approval for nukes, they make no moves to make that happen. Gavin Newsom may be the exception, but his legislative Dem colleagues won’t even let the existing nukes stand. Existential threat my arse.
This whole issue is manufactured nonsense, pure duplicity.
We are expected to believe that climate change is an existential crisis while being told that we can’t use nuclear, the cleanest and safest thing we have. It has never added up. And the other option is a return to pre-industrial living and economic standards? It’s almost like there’s an ulterior motive.
Think carefully when you hear people demand that you follow the science or whatever.
We are expected to believe that climate change is an existential crisis while being told that we can’t use nuclear, the cleanest and safest thing we have. It has never added up. And the other option is a return to pre-industrial living and economic standards? It’s almost like there’s an ulterior motive.
Think carefully when you hear people demand that you follow the science or whatever.
Yeah, Gates prolly needs you to research it for him.
The largest fuel cell plant is located in s Korea. It produces 68 mw.
Paducah-McCracken County consumes 85mw.
Gates plant, projected for 2030, is 345 mw but can run at 500 mw for short periods.
By the way, China adds 70,000 mw of new coal fired power plants every year. They will eclipse the 1200 coal fired plant mark this year. They have a bunch of clean running ev to power.
The us is down to 200. In the last 15 years, we have closed 400, while China has opened 750.
I am so thankful that we made that effort. It makes it worth it knowing every low 90* day that tva will beg me to raise my thermostat.
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