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2blue4u_rivals376918

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Willy4UK said:
Totally agree. With everybody questioning everything, conspiracy theories, things run rampant. If kidnapping were legal. I would kidnap a Free Mason and water board them to give me the info I needed..
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Waterboarding may be the only way you crack one those boys. Besides, most of them don't know **** anyway.
 
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i actually do believe the reason we turned on Libya, after Gaddafi gave us his nukes, was that Obama and Co. were running arms to what would become ISIS through Libya to "rebels" in Syria. But i could be wrong.
 
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LordEgg said:
i actually do believe the reason we turned on Libya, after Gaddafi gave us his nukes, was that Obama and Co. were running arms to what would become ISIS through Libya to "rebels" in Syria. But i could be wrong.
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Nah. Will say this though - No one loves conspiracy theories more than the Arabs though. They can pin any issue/subject within their society on the West/Jews instead of, you know, actually taking a hard look at themselves.
 
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2blue4u said:
I guess I could tell the actual story of how I got ask to join.

First off, it wasn't good ole Uncle J who asked me. No, at the time I was asked I don't believe I even knew UJ was a Mason. I was 21 and I had a summer job in Versailes I drove a forklift and worked in a warehouse. My boss was this middle-age guy who took a liking to me pretty early on, which to me, was weird b/c he was my boss. It was only like my third job ever so being friends with the boss was foreign to me. He and I would take breaks together , eat lunch together, stuff like that.( Pretty romantic, huh?)

Well after awhile, when we got to know each other better, I started noticing he and I would always seem to get ourselves in these huge philosophical convo/arguments. Everyday, without fail, it seemed like one of this type conversations would get started. I didn't mind them at all really, but b/c he was my boss, I was weary about disagreeing with him as much as I did. But despite this weariness, I never did kiss up by just agreeing with him. If I thought he was wrong, I'd tell him.

These discussions went on another month or so. Then one day,we stumbled onto the topic of pre-history. Which more or less was, an ancient aliens type discussion. This was '97, '98 and I honestly didn't know, at that time, there was such a thing as an ancient alien theory. Which was odd, b/c even though I didn't have the knowledge there was a real world theory on the subject, I had came up with my own vague theory that was pretty damn close to the actual ancient alien theory. In the most vague sense possible, of course. I know that may not seem too likely, but it's true. And looking back, the one reason it could be that I was totally ignorant of the actual theory was that, much like my atheism, I kept this particular theory to myself. So those," Hey, if you think like that, you need to check out this book Chariot of the Gods" suggestions didn't happen, which in turn, would have made me aware of the whole AA theory.

Why am I spending so much time trying to convince you of, what seems to be, such an inconsequential fact to this story? Well, I think it actually had a lot to do with me being asked to join. And by it, I mean the fact that I had came up with this theory on my own, and I wasn't simply repeating what I had heard or read. There is another part to this, but it's coming up next in the story.

So, like I said, we're having this discussion on pre-history and pretty much off the bat I sensed something different in ole dude. He wasn't disagreeing with me as much as he was picking my brain. Which wasn't our normal back and forth at all. It was a lot of,"If that's true, wouldn't that also mean this is true." and, "why/how do you think that happened?" It wasn't his normal, " You're wrong and here's why." spiel. It was like, and this is the other part I mentioned earlier, that I had stumbled on some kind of truth and he wanted to see just how I had done it. Basically, was it dumb luck or had I actually thought it out. Now, whether the Masons have their own theories on ancient aliens, I couldn't say, but ole dude seemed way to comfortable with the subject for me.

This discussion went on 3 or 4 days, which again, wasn't normal hat for us. We would start other convos but he would always come back to this one. I'm boring myself, so I'm going to try and speed this up. For whatever reason, I can't remember why I did really, but I told him that I was an atheist. One of the few people I had ever dropped that on. And he took it well, but what really stuck out to me was after that,i t seemed he wasn't really concerned with convincing me to believe in the traditional God, as much as it seemed his concern, determination really, was centered around simply convincing me there was *a god*. It was just odd at the time.

So basically, during the course of him trying to convince me to believe in a god, he revealed he was a freemason(he wore a masonic ring the whole time I knew him btw and I had no clue) and he really thought a person with my mind set and and so on, can't remember how he put it, would be perfect for the masons. Minus the atheism part, of course. Why didn't I lie and say I had finally seen the light on the whole god thing? A few reasons really. But the main one, I chalk up to youthful idealism. I thought that way for a reason, and by god, you can't get me to go back on something that I believe to be true. Especially after I've vehemently defended my position for 3 or 4 days. Calling you hurtful names in the process The other reason, youthful ignorance. I wasn't as keen on the Masons as I am today. I remember the actual term devil worshipers coming to my mind back then.
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As someone who has submitted my application to become a Mason and awaiting approval (I'm not worried because I will be 5th generation), I have just one question about your experience and it isn't that I don't believe you, I do. It's just that Masons are allowed to ask others to join. They aren't allowed to offer up information. To join you have to ask a Mason if you can. Do the work yourself to kind of prove that you are actually interested in it.I just wonder what made your boss offer this invite up. It is interesting.

I've known for a long time that my Dad and Grandfather were both Masons. It's been something that is has been part of my life for as long as I can remember, but even my Dad didn't ask me if I would be interested. I had to ask him. Men I've known my entire life have never asked me to join. Rarely talked about it around me unless I brought it up and then they would answer the majority of the general questions I had. They are also all Shriners and do a lot of volunteer work to raise money for the hospitals, which is what got me interested in it initially.

To get back to the point I wonder why he would break this oath, if you want to call it that, to not discuss Masonry with non-Masons. Again I believe your story that is just very interesting to me.
 
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I'll start by saying thanks for not actually calling me a liar. It shows good manners on your part. However, actually calling me a liar probably would have been a much more efficient use of your time. A lot less typing and what not. I *do* appreciate the effort taken not to insult me though. This sort of ******** social decorum is too rare these days. So again, thanks for the effort.

razinkane1282807 said:
To get back to the point I wonder why he would break this oath, if you want to call it that, to not discuss Masonry with non-Masons. Again I believe your story that is just very interesting to me.
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So, just trying to get it clear here, you're asking me why he broke his oath? That's what you're asking me? And it's not a rhetorical question? Well, o.k., I don't know why he did what he did, but, like you, I find it very interesting. Very.

Now, let me ask you a question. I know you're not officially a Mason just yet (formalities, right), meaning you haven't taken your oath at this time. Forgetting that fact for a moment, would you consider the post you just made to be a violation of the oath? No? Well, if the answer is no, my former boss discussed Masonry with me just as much as you just did. And if I gave the impression of him doing otherwise, allow me to apologize and correct that, b/c he didn't. And even though he let it be known he was a Mason and told me to seriously consider becoming a member, to say he discussed, or even tried to define, Masonry as a thing, violating his oath, would be a stretch. Actually, it would just be wrong.

Anything else you want to discuss before you fulfill your destiny and take that oath?


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My uncle has not asked me to join but has commented multiple times that he thinks I would enjoy it, would be good for me, etc. I just don't have time.
 
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I had a friend in college, Anthony (first names are okay) who sincerely believed David Icke. Like, no bullshitting, he thought the Pope was a lizard.

He was a Psych major just like me, so we had a lot of classes together. Not a dumb guy by any means. I could never figure out how someone who got pretty good grades could be so gullible.
 
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Quoting so no one misses it.

2blue4u said:
I guess I could tell the actual story of how I got ask to join.

First off, it wasn't good ole Uncle J who asked me. No, at the time I was asked I don't believe I even knew UJ was a Mason. I was 21 and I had a summer job in Versailes I drove a forklift and worked in a warehouse. My boss was this middle-age guy who took a liking to me pretty early on, which to me, was weird b/c he was my boss. It was only like my third job ever so being friends with the boss was foreign to me. He and I would take breaks together , eat lunch together, stuff like that.( Pretty romantic, huh?)

Well after awhile, when we got to know each other better, I started noticing he and I would always seem to get ourselves in these huge philosophical convo/arguments. Everyday, without fail, it seemed like one of this type conversations would get started. I didn't mind them at all really, but b/c he was my boss, I was weary about disagreeing with him as much as I did. But despite this weariness, I never did kiss up by just agreeing with him. If I thought he was wrong, I'd tell him.

These discussions went on another month or so. Then one day,we stumbled onto the topic of pre-history. Which more or less was, an ancient aliens type discussion. This was '97, '98 and I honestly didn't know, at that time, there was such a thing as an ancient alien theory. Which was odd, b/c even though I didn't have the knowledge there was a real world theory on the subject, I had came up with my own vague theory that was pretty damn close to the actual ancient alien theory. In the most vague sense possible, of course. I know that may not seem too likely, but it's true. And looking back, the one reason it could be that I was totally ignorant of the actual theory was that, much like my atheism, I kept this particular theory to myself. So those," Hey, if you think like that, you need to check out this book Chariot of the Gods" suggestions didn't happen, which in turn, would have made me aware of the whole AA theory.

Why am I spending so much time trying to convince you of, what seems to be, such an inconsequential fact to this story? Well, I think it actually had a lot to do with me being asked to join. And by it, I mean the fact that I had came up with this theory on my own, and I wasn't simply repeating what I had heard or read. There is another part to this, but it's coming up next in the story.

So, like I said, we're having this discussion on pre-history and pretty much off the bat I sensed something different in ole dude. He wasn't disagreeing with me as much as he was picking my brain. Which wasn't our normal back and forth at all. It was a lot of,"If that's true, wouldn't that also mean this is true." and, "why/how do you think that happened?" It wasn't his normal, " You're wrong and here's why." spiel. It was like, and this is the other part I mentioned earlier, that I had stumbled on some kind of truth and he wanted to see just how I had done it. Basically, was it dumb luck or had I actually thought it out. Now, whether the Masons have their own theories on ancient aliens, I couldn't say, but ole dude seemed way to comfortable with the subject for me.

This discussion went on 3 or 4 days, which again, wasn't normal hat for us. We would start other convos but he would always come back to this one. I'm boring myself, so I'm going to try and speed this up. For whatever reason, I can't remember why I did really, but I told him that I was an atheist. One of the few people I had ever dropped that on. And he took it well, but what really stuck out to me was after that,i t seemed he wasn't really concerned with convincing me to believe in the traditional God, as much as it seemed his concern, determination really, was centered around simply convincing me there was *a god*. It was just odd at the time.

So basically, during the course of him trying to convince me to believe in a god, he revealed he was a freemason(he wore a masonic ring the whole time I knew him btw and I had no clue) and he really thought a person with my mind set and and so on, can't remember how he put it, would be perfect for the masons. Minus the atheism part, of course. Why didn't I lie and say I had finally seen the light on the whole god thing? A few reasons really. But the main one, I chalk up to youthful idealism. I thought that way for a reason, and by god, you can't get me to go back on something that I believe to be true. Especially after I've vehemently defended my position for 3 or 4 days. Calling you hurtful names in the process The other reason, youthful ignorance. I wasn't as keen on the Masons as I am today. I remember the actual term devil worshipers coming to my mind back then.
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