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Buzzooka Joe

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9dukejames said:
I believed that it was just an internet rumor. It never made any sense to me. The general consensus appears to be that he needs at least another year to gain weight and get stronger before the NBA becomes a strong option. I don't see how sitting out a year helps him. That change in his twitter profile? seems to have been the spark that set the speculation off.

I guess that it takes very little to start something. I could see him at least exploring feedback from the pro folks but it would surprise me if he transferred.
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Yea, he would be better off just declaring for the draft than to transfer.. he could develop a lot more in 2 years of G-League play than he would sitting out one year then playing one more year of NCAA ball..

Duke for one more year is the best option for him to develop though.
 
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HuffyJB

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There are a couple of things I was hoping Duke could get off its back with a good tournament run this year, which was entirely possible. One of those was a strong run as something other than a 1 seed. Duke almost certainly wasn't getting a 1 seed this year, even with an ACC Tournament championship. They would have had to make a run as a 2 or 3 seed, and I wanted to see that. Believe it or not, Duke has not made a Final Four as anything other than a 1 seed in 26 years, when Grant Hill's senior team made the final as a 2 seed. That is pretty crazy to think about.

I was also hoping to see Duke get the Elite 8 bugaboo away. That round has been a roadblock lately. It used to be the Sweet Sixteen: if you look at Duke's 10 tournament losses between the 2001 championship game and 2012, 6 of the 10 were in the S16. But of Duke's most recent 6 losses, half of them have been in the Elite Eight. Duke was one game away from three more Final Fours in the last six tournaments.
 
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nets on nets on nets

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This is all gonna be really weird. There is not gonna be an NBA combine. From everything I have read, the NBA is determined to finish this season, way too much $$$ at stake. They may wait until July, and then play the playoffs without fans up through September. (China is playing games again with no fans) They have already said the draft won't take place until after the season, the draft could be in October and then the season starts next Christmas.

Long story short, I think this helps Duke's case in Matthew Hurt (and a longshot of Stanley) returning, there are just too many unknowns for Hurt not to come back IMO.
 
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youknowit1

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Looking like this will be the roster for next season

1. Roach/goldwire
2. Moore/DJ
3. Johnson/ baker
4. Hurt/brakefield
5. Williams/ Coleman
 
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nets on nets on nets

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youknowit1 said:
Looking like this will be the roster for next season

1. Roach/goldwire
2. Moore/DJ
3. Johnson/ baker
4. Hurt/brakefield
5. Williams/ Coleman
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I love the combo of playing Johnson at the 3 and Hurt at the 4. They should compliment each other very nicely...what Johnson struggles at (shooting) is what Hurt does best. What Hurt struggles at (passing, ball handling, defense) Johnson will excel at.

On offense Hurt can space the floor and allow Johnson to attack the rim. On defense, Johnson will cover the stronger wing and Hurt will get the weak link.

If Hurt can just get stronger, we can play him some at the 5 too and our offense will be impossible to defend.
 
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HuffyJB

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If Moore can improve his shooting percentage similar to the way Tre did from year 1 to year 2, this team will be tough.

If Stanley returns (extremely long shot, I'm aware), that is probably your preseason #1 team.
 
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BOOGIEMAN1914

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HuffyJB said:
There are a couple of things I was hoping Duke could get off its back with a good tournament run this year, which was entirely possible. One of those was a strong run as something other than a 1 seed. Duke almost certainly wasn't getting a 1 seed this year, even with an ACC Tournament championship. They would have had to make a run as a 2 or 3 seed, and I wanted to see that. Believe it or not, Duke has not made a Final Four as anything other than a 1 seed in 26 years, when Grant Hill's senior team made the final as a 2 seed. That is pretty crazy to think about.

I was also hoping to see Duke get the Elite 8 bugaboo away. That round has been a roadblock lately. It used to be the Sweet Sixteen: if you look at Duke's 10 tournament losses between the 2001 championship game and 2012, 6 of the 10 were in the S16. But of Duke's most recent 6 losses, half of them have been in the Elite Eight. Duke was one game away from three more Final Fours in the last six tournaments.
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exactly w/ the E8 perspective....2013 game against Louisville just got away after the leg break incident, but 2018 and 2019 we were basically 1 key defensive stop away and both breakdowns led to a 3 pt being made by the other team.....uggghhhhh
 
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youknowit1

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Moore's shot is fine imo...shot 80% from the FT line this year...that usually translates to a decent 3pt shooter, he just needs to take the 3 more..think he only shot 10 or 15 3s this year.
 
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johnl1219_

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BOOGIEMAN1914 said:
exactly w/ the E8 perspective....2013 game against Louisville just got away the leg break incident, but 2018 and 2019 we were basically 1 key defensive stop away and both breakdowns led to a 3 pt being made by the other team.....uggghhhhh
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And on top of that, if RJ makes just one free throw, the game against Mich St. is tied. That was a tough one.
 
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politicsasusual21_rivals176516

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What are the Tar Possums lookin like next year? They seem to think Brooks and Bacot return, which admittedly gives them a hell of a front court. Although, I'm sure the 2 freshman aren't going to like that. I would guess their guard play is the biggest question mark as to who steps in.
 
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youknowit1

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1. Love/Francis
2. Harris/davis
3. Leaky/puff
4. Brooks/Kessler
5. Bacot/sharpe

Seniors... platek, huff and manley...idk I would expect some transfers but that's there 13 scholarship players.
 
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peterjurkinsquirtsroywilliams

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youknowit1 said:
1. Love/Francis
2. Harris/davis
3. Leaky/puff
4. Brooks/Kessler
5. Bacot/sharpe

Seniors... platek, huff and manley...idk I would expect some transfers but that's there 13 scholarship players.
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UNC will be much improved. They'll have some experience but very reliant on youth again. With better talent next year, I expect UNC to make a good push in the NIT next season. Could be a banner year for them.
 
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dukiejay

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Assuming both Brooks and Bacot return, I think they’re a potential top 10 team nationally. A lot will depend on how good Caleb Love can be right off the bat. If he’s really good then they can be really good. If his learning curve takes a while longer they might struggle at times.
 
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peterjurkinsquirtsroywilliams

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dukiejay said:
Assuming both Brooks and Bacot return, I think they’re a potential top 10 team nationally. A lot will depend on how good Caleb Love can be right off the bat. If he’s really good then they can be really good. If his learning curve takes a while longer they might struggle at times.
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You have to love the logjam Roy is creating at these positions in order to keep kids longer. I wonder how Kessler and Sharpe will like playing limited minutes and the full press Roy will invoke to keep them another year.
 
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nets on nets on nets

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Completely baffled as to why Kessler chose UNC, especially if Brooks/Bacot return. He's definitely not starting if they come back. Sounds like his intention is to be a OAD player, good luck playing for Roy and having that happen, especially if your not starting.

There would be many more minutes at the 5 available at Duke. Oh well, I love our team next year, and would prefer a sophomore Hurt over a freshman Kessler anyway. I really like Mark Williams too, think he could be as impactful as Kessler would have been anyway, and will provide more help on what we need most : rebounds and blocks.
 
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timo0402

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Between Sharpe, Brooks, Bacot and Kessler, that’s a lot of mouths to feed and a lot of minutes being taken up in the post alone. You’d think Roy will keep two of those four on the court at all times but that’s a lot of clog in the lane. Brooks has shown the ability to step out and knock down mid range jumpers. Kessler supposedly can do the same. So if they can, Bacot and Sharpe can play with them in complementary fashion. At worst they should be an insanely good rebounding team.
 
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dukedevilz

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timo0402 said:
Between Sharpe, Brooks, Bacot and Kessler, that’s a lot of mouths to feed and a lot of minutes being taken up in the post alone. You’d think Roy will keep two of those four on the court at all times but that’s a lot of clog in the lane.
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Remember when Roy occasionally played John Henson at the 2 and one of the Wear twins at the 3? That was a magical season. Would love to see more of that.
 
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peterjurkinsquirtsroywilliams

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timo0402 said:
Between Sharpe, Brooks, Bacot and Kessler, that’s a lot of mouths to feed and a lot of minutes being taken up in the post alone. You’d think Roy will keep two of those four on the court at all times but that’s a lot of clog in the lane. Brooks has shown the ability to step out and knock down mid range jumpers. Kessler supposedly can do the same. So if they can, Bacot and Sharpe can play with them in complementary fashion. At worst they should be an insanely good rebounding team.
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One thing UNC does well every year is rebound. I'll give Roy credit when credit is due, he prepares his teams to rebound every season. They have a talented frontcourt and I truly don't understand how he pulled off getting Bacot, Kessler, Brooks, and Sharpe. How he manages the minutes, I'm not sure. Both Kessler and Sharpe are top 15 players coming out of HS. They should be OAD, but I fully expect Roy to try and squeeze two years out of them and 3 out of Bacot.
 
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LouisiAaron

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peterjurkinsquirtsroywilliams said:
One thing UNC does well every year is rebound. I'll give Roy credit when credit is due, he prepares his teams to rebound every season. They have a talented frontcourt and I truly don't understand how he pulled off getting Bacot, Kessler, Brooks, and Sharpe. How he manages the minutes, I'm not sure. Both Kessler and Sharpe are top 15 players coming out of HS. They should be OAD, but I fully expect Roy to try and squeeze two years out of them and 3 out of Bacot.
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Funny thing is he says he never practice rebounding drills or anything.
 
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Fourteen44

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timo0402 said:
Between Sharpe, Brooks, Bacot and Kessler, that’s a lot of mouths to feed and a lot of minutes being taken up in the post alone. You’d think Roy will keep two of those four on the court at all times but that’s a lot of clog in the lane. Brooks has shown the ability to step out and knock down mid range jumpers. Kessler supposedly can do the same. So if they can, Bacot and Sharpe can play with them in complementary fashion. At worst they should be an insanely good rebounding team.
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Isn’t Manley still in the mix too?
 
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skysdad

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Fourteen44 said:
Isn’t Manley still in the mix too?
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For sure. Don't know how serious his injury was but he could have helped this year and although he did not play much this year he's another big. The cheaters with all that's coming back should be really good next year. And even though it's pretty much a done deal cole anthony hasn't declared yet or I just missed it. We all know hof coach roy williams has a way of getting his players to hang around to learn that complicated cheater u system. OFC
 
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HuffyJB

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Man, that is a ton of big bodies, and a lot of mouth to keep fed with basically two spots. They won't take a back seat to anyone on the boards though. You will probably see some lineups where they go giant with three of those guys on the floor, and maybe play some zone with them.
 
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dukiejay

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Manley will be a non-factor. He’s better off going someplace he can maybe play. Injuries have ravaged him. He’s probably not a high level D1 player anymore.
 
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LouisiAaron

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peterjurkinsquirtsroywilliams said:
He's full of ****. You don't rebound that well unless you prepare your teams for that style of play. However, If you're able to get away with mauling opponents, you can grab rebounds at a high rate.
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No real talk. He said they don’t do drills. It’s just in their system that the 3 man crashes the board hard. They always have at least 3 hitting the boards hard every time a shot goes up.
 
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jimlsumner

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johnl1219 said:
Yep, and now he's in the NBA averaging 5 PPG. Roy sure can develop talent.
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Henson's lasted eight years in the NBA. That's more than either Kyle Singler or Nolan Smith. That's worthy of some respect, at least from where I sit, which is on my couch binge-watching The Expanse.
 
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