#imwithgreg
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It’s better we don’t make any assumptions. Only thing we KNOW from sworn testimony is McQueery saw and told Paterno. They are the only two people we KNOW knew something. We can ASSUME others knew. But a person reputation and a job shouldn’t be ruined because of an assumption.
I didn't say I wouldn't report it.
I doubt men who are really nothing more than overpaid gym teachers would though. In fact, they didn't for years.
Why wouldn’t they? Overpaid gym teachers don’t risk their necks for anyone. They usually blackmail you with that kind of secret.
Many of my friends played for Greg. Close friends n guys I just know. Also I've met em. He's no angel. And he is not liked as much as you probably think. I don't wanna really bad mouth the guy- but he's far from adored.. You won't know how his playere really feel unless you know them personally. Never heard much love for him
Damn straight! Greg is the real victim in this whole tragedy, not the children Not the fact that someone close to the situation said he knew and was well aware of the situation, not the fact that coaches are a very close nit group and the very idea that this type of activity would somehow be kept secret is totally ludicrous, it is all hearsay, Greg is innocent, he is the real victim. By the way, now that O.J. is out of prison, what do you think the chances are he will finally be able to find the real killers?
Listen *** hat. You were the one that stated as fact that someone with personal knowledge said he knew. Name that someone. Please. Otherwise you are full of crap and just on here as a Schiano hater. Go root for Tennessee. You, like them, love to make up stories.
Could you be a bigger loser in life? I didn't start or make up anything you moron, it was reported in the Washington Post among scores of media outlets over a year ago. Grow up and stop being such a blind homer.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-state-documents-show/?utm_term=.94d9be225cdf
Agreed! Greg doesn’t need the support of a second cult. The one in PA will suffice!
Not to mention the fact that Tim Curley testified under oath that Pedterno knew in 1998.
Hope Joe Ped has a great Christmas in Dante's Seventh Circle.
Can you actually read? The only person who said this is McQueary who did not talk to Schiano and the person, Bradley, has vehemently denied. And McQueary is the only one who made money off all this. He had a motive to back up his story. Your dumb *** statement is far from fact as you present it. Maybe you should read the article again. Slowly. Or maybe have someone to explain it for you.
Seriously, you didn't read the article. It says Bradley told him Schiano told him about it. It would have to be brought up in a conversation 10 years before of an incident that happened 10 years before that, considering Schiano was there from 91-95 (thing blew up in 2011), when the person that made the allegation was not a part of the program. The allegation was also conveniently made up when he was suing Penn State for wrongful termination because he was trying to show that a lot of people knew about this. His own attorneys called this heresy and didn't keep this piece of the testimony for the actual case.
Bradley did deny knowing about this under oath.
EDIT: To add to this, McQueary also felt no need to bring up these facts in the actual Sandusky investigation. He only brought it up in his civil suit against Penn State. Hope that helps you understand the nature of these allegations against Greg.
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This is a witch hunt by deluded Tennessee fans. Their next coach will get fired after posting a sub-.600 record regardless of who it is. Minimal in-state talent and a fanbase with unrealistic championship expectations. Tennessee is like the Nebraska of the SEC.
How could he not have known either via witnessing or the grapevine ? There is no chance that he knew nothing about it. And "hearsay" isn't admissible evidence but may still be true.
My opinion is that Greg knew but 15 years later when asked about it he thought it would be too damaging to his career to admit to that. However, I think this was a miscalculation. I think if he came clean about knowing and stated that as a young assistant all he could do was stay out of it since Paterno and the executives were already informed, he'd not be the pariah he worried about being.
My opinion is that Greg knew but 15 years later when asked about it he thought it would be too damaging to his career to admit to that. However, I think this was a miscalculation. I think if he came clean about knowing and stated that as a young assistant all he could do was stay out of it since Paterno and the executives were already informed, he'd not be the pariah he worried about being.
Add to all of that that NONE of the victims ever brought up GS... ever.
I am not GS biggest fan like some here, but anyone who thinks they know for sure that GS knew something is not making any sense whatsoever. The facts just don't back it up.
Again, this is how cults react to news that their leader is flawed. You accused me of starting an issue and to name name's. I provide you an article from an established newspaper and then you go about ripping it apart, that is fine, but where is the apology to me for your accusations against me and your attempted cyber bullying?
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Seriously, your opinion vs the experts in what might be the most investigated case of this decade. I think the experts might have at least caught a sniff of something if he was involved in anyway at all. Your opinion has no basis other than fantasy.
Does't mean he is lying that it was brought up in a civil suit, what it does mean is that your hero may be flawed and you can't accept that fact. Do you have first hand knowledge that the allegation is "made up"? I am just reporting the facts as they the appeared in pages of a well established newspapers. I guess it was all fake news and Greg didn't know. Yea right.
anvil...why would McQueary lie about that ? Everything else he said has been true and proved in court. The Schiano / Bradley part just wasn't admissible. And even if he did lie about being told Schiano witnessed it once, you don't think anyone else on that staff knew but was afraid to come forward at the time and face Paterno's wrath ? I'm not saying Schiano is guilty of any crime, but I find it impossible to believe no one else either saw or heard rumors about Sandusky.
Rather, I believe others knew but had incentives (career concerns) to stay out of it...and all these years later need to stick to their original story.
Rather, I believe others knew but had incentives (career concerns) to stay out of it...and all these years later need to stick to their original story.
This is simple really.
Schiano was "implicated" in an insurance company deposition by McQueery as someone who he heard told someone else (Tom Bradley) that he had seen something. It was third-hand information and speculative at that.
Shortly after this deposition became public, both Schiano and Bradley denied that such a conversation ever occurred, and that either was aware of Sandusky's actions.
Do you really choose to believe this?
For me, Greg Schiano has demonstrated enough through his own words and actions to accept his statement at face value. I believe Greg.
Again. You said someone knew and present an article about McQueary testimony. McQueary didn' know, never spoke with Schiano, or anyone that backs up McQueary statement which you so heavily rely on, so you still haven' provided a name to your statement. You present crap as fact.
because the lawsuit was literally to get McQueary compensated for wrongful termination. Again, he was a part of 2 criminal investigations where he did not bring up this claim. He only brought it up in the civil suit. He needed the judge to believe that what Sandusky did was common knowledge to get paid out. That is why he made the allegations.
His own attorneys chose not to use his testimony.
You may dispute it, but I presented what you asked for. And how do you personally know that McQueary didn't know? So according to you, McQueary made it all up, very selective, only believe what conforms to your take on the events. The fact is McQueary was telling the truth and proven on all his allegations, this one just happens to be in regards to your hero, so of course he is lying to get money. Unbelievable, what a homer and you still owe me an apology.
You aren't reporting facts.
this is not a fact. this was someone who didn't know Schiano at all (or at least they have never worked together, Schiano was long gone by the time McQueary joined Penn State) saying Bradley told him 10 years ago that Schiano (in 2011 he said Bradley told him in 2001ish) had seen these things 10 years before that (Again Schiano worked at Penn State in 1991-1995).
Now, let's say you believe that timeline is reasonable and that the subject could randomly come up in a conversation. Why did McQueary not report this in the criminal investigations? There were 2 of those. Not a peep. Only in a civil suit where money was on the line for him.
Getting past all that, you would have to also believe that McQueary was telling the truth. If he was telling him the truth, you would have to believe that Bradley was telling McQueary the truth. This whole thing requires a lot of assumptions that stretch the imagination to come up with this conspiracy theory.
Owe you an apology??? You must be dumber than I thought. You still haven't given me the person who has backed up your stupid statement. 3rd person info denied vehemently from the supposed source. You have no one with a facual statement who supports your assine post.
Your statement has zero basis of fact. None.
No one is looking to arrest him, no one is looking to lynch him.
I would say if the skeptical eye he is receiving is the worst thing that happens to him, he is getting off easy.
scarlet...yea, I think it's far more likely that Schiano and many others besides McQueary knew something awful was going on but (understandably) felt powerless or afraid to pursue very far if at all.
There would have been too many football staff around...and people talk.
Assuming he knew this had been reported to superiors, I wouldn't blame him for "not doing more" like Paterno needed to do....but 15 years later his "i never had any idea" story seems implausible.
I think if he originally confirmed McQueary's account this wouldn't be an issue for him now.
There would have been too many football staff around...and people talk.
Assuming he knew this had been reported to superiors, I wouldn't blame him for "not doing more" like Paterno needed to do....but 15 years later his "i never had any idea" story seems implausible.
I think if he originally confirmed McQueary's account this wouldn't be an issue for him now.
Well, if all he heard was "gossip." Gossip which implied that one of the Coaches was doing things to little boy's, it's gossip that he should have confirmed or dismissed. If he did neither, he is culpable. And, if heard, or conveniently saw nothing, then he is both culpable and stupid!
Yes. I think if you hear this sort of thing, you get together with others who have heard the same and schedule a meeting with Paterno, the AD, and the head of the university and get everything out in the open.