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1vagamecock

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South Carolina has led the SEC in going backwards on Offense.
Now I'm not one of the guys who is calling for Beamers head, but if it doesn't change we are looking at some really bad seasons ahead.
We won't always have NFL QBs to cover this glaring weakness.
Just my thought.
 
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KingWard

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South Carolina has led the SEC in going backwards on Offense.
Now I'm not one of the guys who is calling for Beamers head, but if it doesn't change we are looking at some really bad seasons ahead.
We won't always have NFL QBs to cover this glaring weakness.
Just my thought.
He can save himself with some consequential staff changes, but that will entail consequential money. In his position, you have to jettison out-of-favor coaches. They got that way for a reason.
 

Cobie

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AD has to put heat on Beamer to make changes on offense this offseason and emphasize that this is his last chance to get it right.

There's something very special about the morning cup of joe coupled this BOT's Manopause-on-a-Page that really sets the day off right.

If only he could get his hands on the program.....
 
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18IsTheMan

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He can save himself with some consequential staff changes, but that will entail consequential money. In his position, you have to jettison out-of-favor coaches. They got that way for a reason.
I don't know the impact of buyouts, but we are already paying nearly top-10 money nationally for OC and DC.
 

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Not sure the athletic department has the ability to just keep paying buyouts, it is sorta like getting married, then finding out she wasnt what you wanted, you want the other GF. Not sure what we can do, we are kinda STUCK IMO!!
 
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kidrobinski

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There's something very special about the morning cup of joe coupled this BOT's Manopause-on-a-Page that really sets the day off right.

If only he could get his hands on the program.....
Gotta say these are some sad folks on here, sympathize with them in a way. The sabre rattling has become a din, they’re going to break the scabbards. It’s endless; they seek that which they cannot find.
 
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1vagamecock

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AD has to put heat on Beamer to make wholesale changes on offense this offseason and emphasize that this is his last chance to get it right.

Beamer needs someone to tell him his coaches are not good.
I believe this will happen if the season continues to go south.
If Beamer can turn the line play around we all win and that is what I'm hoping for.
 

Lurker123

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AD has to put heat on Beamer to make wholesale changes on offense this offseason and emphasize that this is his last chance to get it right.

Beamer needs someone to tell him his coaches are not good.

Some quote from some AD years ago (may have e even been the dreaded school), "if I have to tell my coach who to hire as assistants, then I have the wrong coach".

Basically, a head coach should be able to identify these issues.

But if was the AD, I would certainly have that conversation if I felt the coach though there was no issue.
 
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Piscis

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Some quote from some AD years ago (may have e even been the dreaded school), "if I have to tell my coach who to hire as assistants, then I have the wrong coach".

Basically, a head coach should be able to identify these issues.

But if was the AD, I would certainly have that conversation if I felt the coach though there was no issue.
I view the AD as the CEO of the corporation. He hires a coach and tells him, "I expect our ____________ team to be competitive and in the championship picture every year". It is the job of the coach to do what he is directed to do.

If the coach isn't doing the job he was hired to do, the coach needs to be replaced with a coach who can do the job the AD wants done. It is not the AD's job to bring the coach in and tell him what he needs to do. If the AD is going to do that, he can simply coach the team himself.

The AD position is more about overseeing the finances of the athletic association, not micromanaging the individual teams. Tanner was probably perfectly happy with the results of the athletic association, money was/is pouring in. When the cash flow slows down, the AD springs into action.
 
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South Carolina has led the SEC in going backwards on Offense...
 

KingWard

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AD has to put heat on Beamer to make wholesale changes on offense this offseason and emphasize that this is his last chance to get it right.

Beamer needs someone to tell him his coaches are not good.
You would think his Daddy could do that if he hasn't gone around the bend.
 
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18IsTheMan

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We might have to pay more, or risk declining to Va. Tech status.

For what we are paying, though, we should easily be at top 25 team. Our head coach is the 17th highest paid nationally (a tick behind James Franklin who has PSU on the verge of title contender status in recent years).

We are just getting lousy ROI.
 
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Gamecock Jacque

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I view the AD as the CEO of the corporation. He hires a coach and tells him, "I expect our ____________ team to be competitive and in the championship picture every year". It is the job of the coach to do what he is directed to do.

If the coach isn't doing the job he was hired to do, the coach needs to be replaced with a coach who can do the job the AD wants done. It is not the AD's job to bring the coach in and tell him what he needs to do. If the AD is going to do that, he can simply coach the team himself.

The AD position is more about overseeing the finances of the athletic association, not micromanaging the individual teams. Tanner was probably perfectly happy with the results of the athletic association, money was/is pouring in. When the cash flow slows down, the AD springs into action.
Especially since the current AD did NOT hire the current HC. And I doubt he would have.
 

Slim Chickens Gamecock

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The NFL quarterbacks are not covering us now. It is the basics we are failing at again. Blocking and tackling.
So many isolation plays where a TE whiffed a block or a running back fell at the feet of a rushing defender. Why cant we find OLinemen and DT's.
ive been complaining about a lack of DLinemen recruiting for a while.
You have to have run stoppers there to make a defense click.
 
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I no longer have much faith in Beamer. If we keep him he will give us winning seasons maybe half the time. The other half will be break even or losing. The sad thing is that is about average for us.
 
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KingWard

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For what we are paying, though, we should easily be at top 25 team. Our head coach is the 17th highest paid nationally (a tick behind James Franklin who has PSU on the verge of title contender status in recent years).

We are just getting lousy ROI.
That would probably be true at an even lower price.
 
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gamecock stock

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I believe we have the right man now as AD. Donati will straighten out the football program. He fired Gary Patterson at TCU. Patterson was honored with other TCU Hall of Fame inductees this past Saturday at TCU at half time. I think Beamer is smart enough to know that he can't BS himself out of trouble with Donati. Beamer does not have the "goodwill" that Patterson had at TCU. If this season goes south in a hurry, I now suspect that next year will be "do or die" for him. Donati reminds me of Mike McGee. They said McGee fires well and hires well.
 
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Gamecock Jacque

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I believe we have the right man now as AD. Donati will straighten out the football program. He fired Gary Patterson at TCU. Patterson was honored with other TCU Hall of Fame inductees this past Saturday at TCU at half time. I think Beamer is smart enough to know that he can't BS himself out of trouble with Donati. Beamer does not have the "goodwill" that Patterson had at TCU. If this season goes south in a hurry, I now suspect that next year will be "do or die" for him. Donati reminds me of Mike McGee. They said McGee fires well and hires well.
I agree. Patterson has a statue at the stadium. And Beamer isn't Donati's coach.
 
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South Carolina has led the SEC in going backwards on Offense.
Now I'm not one of the guys who is calling for Beamers head, but if it doesn't change we are looking at some really bad seasons ahead.
We won't always have NFL QBs to cover this glaring weakness.
Just my thought.
I get a kick out of posters who feel the need to include the statement that they aren't calling for Beamer to be fired. He's paid more money in one season than many will make in a lifetime, and he's doing a crappy job. If someone who matches that description doesn't deserve it, who does?
 
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18IsTheMan

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I get a kick out of posters who feel the need to include the statement that they aren't calling for Beamer to be fired. He's paid more money in one season than many will make in a lifetime, and he's doing a crappy job. If someone who matches that description doesn't deserve it, who does?
Keep in mind that Oklahoma State fired Mike Gundy after he had one bad year on the heels of 18 STRAIGHT very successful season with top 25 finishes and bowl games. All it took was one season (and 3 games this season) for them to say "things are headed in the wrong direction". Yet some say that Beamer absolutely "deserves" to come back for Year 6 just because he had a good Year 4, regardless of how Year 5 goes. Gundy was 10-4 two seasons ago, and he'd been there two decades, but he got canned.

I'm not necessarily saying we should fire him, but if we were to go 1-7 in conference play this year, his 5th year, I don't see how a 9-win season last year gives him a free pass to be guaranteed coming back next season.
 

Piscis

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I believe we have the right man now as AD. Donati will straighten out the football program. He fired Gary Patterson at TCU. Patterson was honored with other TCU Hall of Fame inductees this past Saturday at TCU at half time. I think Beamer is smart enough to know that he can't BS himself out of trouble with Donati. Beamer does not have the "goodwill" that Patterson had at TCU. If this season goes south in a hurry, I now suspect that next year will be "do or die" for him. Donati reminds me of Mike McGee. They said McGee fires well and hires well.
Patterson was fired because he was losing as much as he was winning over his last four seasons. Shane better hope that isn't reason enough for Donati to fire a coach.
 

1vagamecock

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Keep in mind that Oklahoma State fired Mike Gundy after he had one bad year on the heels of 18 STRAIGHT very successful season with top 25 finishes and bowl games. All it took was one season (and 3 games this season) for them to say "things are headed in the wrong direction". Yet some say that Beamer absolutely "deserves" to come back for Year 6 just because he had a good Year 4, regardless of how Year 5 goes. Gundy was 10-4 two seasons ago, and he'd been there two decades, but he got canned.

I'm not necessarily saying we should fire him, but if we were to go 1-7 in conference play this year, his 5th year, I don't see how a 9-win season last year gives him a free pass to be guaranteed coming back next season.
His seat isn't even warm yet. Just because this board thinks it is doesn't make it so.
Unless he does something illegal or takes another job he will be back.
 
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18IsTheMan

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His seat isn't even warm yet. Just because this board thinks it is doesn't make it so.
Unless he does something illegal or takes another job he will be back.

Well, that's the exact point I'm making. His seat isn't warm, but it should get there if the current trajectory keeps up. For some reason because we got 9 wins last year, we're able to completely toss out this season's results. Is there any other profession where that would happen?
 

Piscis

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Well, that's the exact point I'm making. His seat isn't warm, but it should get there if the current trajectory keeps up. For some reason because we got 9 wins last year, we're able to completely toss out this season's results. Is there any other profession where that would happen?
Those 9 wins also erased all memory of the 5-7 season in 2023.
 

1vagamecock

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Well, that's the exact point I'm making. His seat isn't warm, but it should get there if the current trajectory keeps up. For some reason because we got 9 wins last year, we're able to completely toss out this season's results. Is there any other profession where that would happen?
Mens BB at our university.