Interesting - Cards Lose Both Defensive Backs Coaches to SEC Schools..

Beatle Bum

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What excuses? And our leadership has a lot to do with our falling behind, not just in not recruiting criminals but anyone else that has any faults at all, and kicking Tubman out and the COA fiasco are just two more examples. I was thoroughly opposed to hiring BP here, he should be in jail, but UK is the biggest scaredy cat in the nation about the incompetent NCAA while other schools like UL are getting away with murder.

BP had serious problems recruiting elsewhere, after having TWO great seasons at Arkansas AND them starting a FOUR HUNDRED MILLION dollar athletics facilities upgrade he had TWO four star commits in his last two classes there, and that was before his troubles surfaced.

His one year at WKU he also had THIRTY TWO commits, but only THREE were THREE stars, that is TWENTY NINE two stars in one class

I didn't give excuses, I gave reasons, reading comprehension is your friend.

At WKU he recruited a bunch of Jucos and sites often give them no more than 2 stars.
 
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I just checked their commit list for 13 and it now shows 34 total commits (wonder how he got that many openings his first year?) and it shows four THREE stars (UK has four FOUR stars this year, UL three) with all of them being OL, three of them only 5.5s. Yes, he had eight JCs, but two of them were half of his three stars, and NONE of them were in this years two deep. Even minus the six JC two stars that left TWENTY FOUR freshmen two star commits in his class, AND most weren't even 5.4s, more 5.2's than 5.4s and they averaged below a 5.3. It reminds me a lot of UK's great 07 class, with nineteen two stars and NO four stars, Joker's senior leaders his first year.

And Doughty, that was responsible for a lot of their success, was a 2010 commit. Then he had six JC's in last years class at UL, but then that isn't counting all the other transfers at Transfer U.

Considering the success he had recruiting his last two years at a State University in the SEC with GREAT success for two years AND the $400,000,000 in improvements at Arkansas I think there is good reason to question his upgrade in recruiting at a City College. Oh, and have you ever heard of hurtt and jurich?

And if you think I am trying to insult our "guests" and get them to leave, don't worry, they love coming over here and lording it over us.
 

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Last time I check Clint Hurtt is coaching for the Chicago Bears...and Jauk...the end all be all is not some number Rivals assigns to a HS Player...you can win a lot of games with players to your system-(check out Michigan State classes....not a Top 25 Class from 2011-2015 yet they won the B1G and made the playoffs) or even Houston.

And really our recruiting classes the past two years have been par the course...we even started a "2*" True Freshman WR-(Jaylen Smith) for the entire year or another player TE Cole Hikutini...don't care what a so-called internet service rates them...both are very good young football players...it called player evaluation.
 
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What excuses? And our leadership has a lot to do with our falling behind, not just in not recruiting criminals but anyone else that has any faults at all, and kicking Tubman out and the COA fiasco are just two more examples. I was thoroughly opposed to hiring BP here, he should be in jail, but UK is the biggest scaredy cat in the nation about the incompetent NCAA while other schools like UL are getting away with murder.

For what? Having an affair? Good gawd. We better hurry up and build a crapola load of jails across america to house everyone that has an affair.
 
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Sounds like "U" really "Lover" UK, LOL. Don't U guys have a board?

No, misuse of public funds. that is where you or I would be in that situation.

And I don't know if abortion is legal in Kentucky or not, funny that BP arranged his in Cincinnati if it is, but I would say arranging and paying for one is very questionable.

Slick Rick did a wonderful job with snowing her, all she had to do was have his baby and with his millions she could have lived the life of Reilly for 21 years on the child support she would have gotten from him. jurich would have probably had to give him a raise, although I do think Boston gave him a $50,000,000 contract to leave UK after him saying he would never do that.

Do you think he will be there after this year?
 
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Last time I check Clint Hurtt is coaching for the Chicago Bears...and Jauk...the end all be all is not some number Rivals assigns to a HS Player...you can win a lot of games with players to your system-(check out Michigan State classes....not a Top 25 Class from 2011-2015 yet they won the B1G and made the playoffs) or even Houston.

And really our recruiting classes the past two years have been par the course...we even started a "2*" True Freshman WR-(Jaylen Smith) for the entire year or another player TE Cole Hikutini...don't care what a so-called internet service rates them...both are very good young football players...it called player evaluation.

Of course he is in Chicago, hurtt was damaged goods, he had to leave town. Didn't he still have part of his recruiting embargo in effect, and wouldn't the NCAA have been watching him like a hawk? Pretty comical Strong having to take him with him to Knoxville, he would have been a big hit there, and also kind of funny that jurich couldn't fire him, you think.

Of course stars aren't everything, Brooks would have never beaten a SEC team (except for Vandy) if they decided the score by the stars. Woodson was a four star, Little a 5.6, Burton a LATE three star turned down by UL (BP), Tamme a LATE three star turned down by UK, (Morris), Johnson a two star per Rivals, Lyons a FOUR POINT NINE two star. AND the OL averaged about a FIVE POINT TWO two star.

Joker's first team in 10 had nineteen two stars in his senior class from 07 with only two JC four stars, and he beat top ten USC AND only lost to NC Auburn with Cam 39-36. TWO four stars, USC had 39 four stars in the previous four classes plus a FIVE star, and the other SEC teams he faced AVERAGED 38 four stars (not counting the five stars) the previous four years, omitting Vandy but including the two Misses.

But I still would much rather have half the four stars that Bama has than whatever Michigan State brings in------and their classes aren't that bad, think they got a four star RB we really wanted.

BS that UL isn't recruiting better than expected under BP, and when you add in all the transfers most real Universities won't take their talent isn't bad at all.

But UK is just starting to dig itself out of a huge hole, lots of improved talent here and once the experience kicks in we will be much better.
 
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I hate posts like this, always reads like sour grapes because they keep kicking our tail. Man up and admit they have a better program right and hope that our leadership does something to correct it. Just don't make excuses, makes us sound like a bunch of ***'s.
That's pretty normal with jauk, just get used to it. Pretty hardcore homer. Anyways id rather have petrino and win with questionable players than lose with high character players. Any and everyday of the week.
 
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Of course he is in Chicago, hurtt was damaged goods, he had to leave town. Didn't he still have part of his recruiting embargo in effect, and wouldn't the NCAA have been watching him like a hawk? Pretty comical Strong having to take him with him to Knoxville, he would have been a big hit there, and also kind of funny that jurich couldn't fire him, you think.

Of course stars aren't everything, Brooks would have never beaten a SEC team (except for Vandy) if they decided the score by the stars. Woodson was a four star, Little a 5.6, Burton a LATE three star turned down by UL (BP), Tamme a LATE three star turned down by UK, (Morris), Johnson a two star per Rivals, Lyons a FOUR POINT NINE two star. AND the OL averaged about a FIVE POINT TWO two star.

Joker's first team in 10 had nineteen two stars in his senior class from 07 with only two JC four stars, and he beat top ten USC AND only lost to NC Auburn with Cam 39-36. TWO four stars, USC had 39 four stars in the previous four classes plus a FIVE star, and the other SEC teams he faced AVERAGED 38 four stars (not counting the five stars) the previous four years, omitting Vandy but including the two Misses.

But I still would much rather have half the four stars that Bama has than whatever Michigan State brings in------and their classes aren't that bad, think they got a four star RB we really wanted.

BS that UL isn't recruiting better than expected under BP, and when you add in all the transfers most real Universities won't take their talent isn't bad at all.

But UK is just starting to dig itself out of a huge hole, lots of improved talent here and once the experience kicks in we will be much better.
Once the coaching gets halfway competent and learns how to make adjustments then we'll be much better. Stoops is a disaster when it comes to in game coaching. I don't see how some people just ignore that fact.
 

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False. He was still gainfully employed when Petrino came calling.
Gainfully is a stretch. It's pretty much agreed that richt didn't want to have to fire him so he suggested that he looked for other opportunities. UL came on just in time. Uga wasn't going into spring with him as dc.
 

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Gainfully is a stretch. It's pretty much agreed that richt didn't want to have to fire him so he suggested that he looked for other opportunities. UL came on just in time. Uga wasn't going into spring with him as dc.

Pretty much the understanding...they wanted Pruitt badly from FSU.
 

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This whole thread is kind of odd. Jauk, you like the direction of your program as we do ours, nothing wrong with that.
 
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Once the coaching gets halfway competent and learns how to make adjustments then we'll be much better. Stoops is a disaster when it comes to in game coaching. I don't see how some people just ignore that fact.
see your still throwing out the same tired crap. But it does not surprise me that someone like you would want Petrino at UK. UL is the slimiest program in the Div I and they were the only ones going after Petrino. You can actually win with class but UL doesn't know how to do that so they hire coaches like Petrino and Pitino. Petrino will never reach the high water mark that Strong did at UL. His teams have gotten worse each year he's been there.

At some point all of the right moves that UK and Stoops have made will begin to have a positive effect. Hopefully that starts this year. If we'd had a competent offense we would have had a much different year. Coaching didn't cause Towles to throw all those interceptions or make Baker drop all of those TD passes.
 
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see your still throwing out the same tired crap. But it does not surprise me that someone like you would want Petrino at UK. UL is the slimiest program in the Div I and they were the only ones going after Petrino. You can actually win with class but UL doesn't know how to do that so they hire coaches like Petrino and Pitino. Petrino will never reach the high water mark that Strong did at UL. His teams have gotten worse each year he's been there.

At some point all of the right moves that UK and Stoops have made will begin to have a positive effect. Hopefully that starts this year. If we'd had a competent offense we would have had a much different year. Coaching didn't cause Towles to throw all those interceptions or make Baker drop all of those TD passes.
When you drop 14 NFL Draft picks in a 2 year period you're going to take a dip...still won 8 games in 2015 while starting basically 6 Freshmen on Offense...the Way Too Early list has Louisville as high as #16 going into 2016...like the direction it is especially since Louisville is returning at minimum 18 out of 22 starters.

Also, we will survive the departure of Coach Buckley and Brown
 
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see your still throwing out the same tired crap. But it does not surprise me that someone like you would want Petrino at UK. UL is the slimiest program in the Div I and they were the only ones going after Petrino. You can actually win with class but UL doesn't know how to do that so they hire coaches like Petrino and Pitino. Petrino will never reach the high water mark that Strong did at UL. His teams have gotten worse each year he's been there.

At some point all of the right moves that UK and Stoops have made will begin to have a positive effect. Hopefully that starts this year. If we'd had a competent offense we would have had a much different year. Coaching didn't cause Towles to throw all those interceptions or make Baker drop all of those TD passes.
Until we learn to make adjustments. Which we did none of last season. We will not be good. Just no way you can sugarcoat that.
 

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And Richt is out basically a year later, averaging 10 wins a year. Crazy.
His goose was cooked a few years ago. It was sec title this year or he was gone. They were tired of coming in 2nd and 3rd in a down east.
 

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What excuses? And our leadership has a lot to do with our falling behind, not just in not recruiting criminals but anyone else that has any faults at all, and kicking Tubman out and the COA fiasco are just two more examples. I was thoroughly opposed to hiring BP here, he should be in jail, but UK is the biggest scaredy cat in the nation about the incompetent NCAA while other schools like UL are getting away with murder.

BP had serious problems recruiting elsewhere, after having TWO great seasons at Arkansas AND them starting a FOUR HUNDRED MILLION dollar athletics facilities upgrade he had TWO four star commits in his last two classes there, and that was before his troubles surfaced.

His one year at WKU he also had THIRTY TWO commits, but only THREE were THREE stars, that is TWENTY NINE two stars in one class

I didn't give excuses, I gave reasons, reading comprehension is your friend.
This may get me banned but Jauk you are a complete tool. What does UL recruiting thugs as you say have to do with anything regarding the success of UK football?

You are great at ruing decent threads by adding you drivel.
 

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As should anyone that cares about the image they give of our state or that cares anything about integrity. The NCAA is a joke.

Just win baby, two adulterers and abortionists (among other things) running their teams with the biggest cheater in history just run off by the NCAA and their fans seem to totally endorse it. Jurich and amateur athletics in the same sentence is a joke.
Once again you are a joke. Only threads you post in are ones including UL subjects and you bring absolutely nothing to the discussion but your tired *** hate for Pitino,Petrino and Jurich.
 

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You should be banned. You are a guest here.
I understand I'm a guest and since I've been posting here I have been nothing but respectful towards the other posters here. It's just crazy how both IL and UK fans can be having a civil discussion and Jauk constantly derails it with his completely off topic nonsense.
 
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This may get me banned but Jauk you are a complete tool. What does UL recruiting thugs as you say have to do with anything regarding the success of UK football?

You are great at ruing decent threads by adding you drivel.
He does it all the time. If someone speaks truth about UK or speaks well of UL he tries to make UL look bad in whatever way he can to make himself feel better about us. Obviously they're the better program at this point in time which I really hate to admit. But it's the gods honest truth. That can and should change in UKs favor. But at this moment UL is obviously a much better FB program.
 
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This may get me banned but Jauk you are a complete tool. What does UL recruiting thugs as you say have to do with anything regarding the success of UK football?

You are great at ruing decent threads by adding you drivel.

LOL.

Glad to see the truth still hurts sometimes-----and the MANY truths about the UL program are almost beyond belief, amazing how incompetent the NCAA is today, probably won't do anything about the paid prostitutes at UL either.

Beating UL every year like we should would make a great difference in our program, a bowl game each of the last two years would have had a great effect in a lot of ways, including making better players of the players we do have. And how many transfers and rejects from other schools did you have playing for you last year, you don't think that made a huge difference and plugged some of your biggest holes. How do you explain the huge dropoff in BPs recruiting at Arkansas with the huge commitment they were making to athletics AND his two great seasons there, before his arrogant A$$ was exposed? How stupid do you have to be to be be riding around on an open bike with a beautiful babe hanging on to your waist with all the skeletons he had in his closet. I really feel that he has a huge recruiting advantage at UL now because recruits not only know a lot more is tolerated but also know that they probably won't get in trouble even if they get in trouble. Similar to the eight thugs at Thug U getting off without a parking ticket when the normal procedure would have been charging all of them with attempted murder and watching them squeal------although, who knows, maybe all eight were equally guilty.

And yes, BP should have been in big trouble in Arkansas for misuse of public funds, hasn't one of UK's basketball heroes been in trouble for that lately?

How many of your 14 NFL prospects were transfers, either kicked out of other schools for grades, behavior, or criminal acts, and the really weird thing is that UL has a bunch of Rhodes Scholars once they get to UL, a PERFECT APR score according to the well oiled publicity machine controlled by jurich.

I never post on anything else, LOL, do you get around much. But you would be wise to just quit while you are behind, I usually don't say anything about the mess at UL (or TU) unless one of you come over and stir the pot. I have never posted on a UL board, but then I would be banned as soon as the name came up, LOL, like most of our posters are the first time they say anything even slightly derogatory.

I know it would take a long time, but why not TRY to dispute some of the facts in my posts, they need some more publicity.

Just win, baby.
 

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LOL.

Glad to see the truth still hurts sometimes-----and the MANY truths about the UL program are almost beyond belief, amazing how incompetent the NCAA is today, probably won't do anything about the paid prostitutes at UL either.

Beating UL every year like we should would make a great difference in our program, a bowl game each of the last two years would have had a great effect in a lot of ways, including making better players of the players we do have. And how many transfers and rejects from other schools did you have playing for you last year, you don't think that made a huge difference and plugged some of your biggest holes. How do you explain the huge dropoff in BPs recruiting at Arkansas with the huge commitment they were making to athletics AND his two great seasons there, before his arrogant A$$ was exposed? How stupid do you have to be to be be riding around on an open bike with a beautiful babe hanging on to your waist with all the skeletons he had in his closet. I really feel that he has a huge recruiting advantage at UL now because recruits not only know a lot more is tolerated but also know that they probably won't get in trouble even if they get in trouble. Similar to the eight thugs at Thug U getting off without a parking ticket when the normal procedure would have been charging all of them with attempted murder and watching them squeal------although, who knows, maybe all eight were equally guilty.

And yes, BP should have been in big trouble in Arkansas for misuse of public funds, hasn't one of UK's basketball heroes been in trouble for that lately?

How many of your 14 NFL prospects were transfers, either kicked out of other schools for grades, behavior, or criminal acts, and the really weird thing is that UL has a bunch of Rhodes Scholars once they get to UL, a PERFECT APR score according to the well oiled publicity machine controlled by jurich.

I never post on anything else, LOL, do you get around much. But you would be wise to just quit while you are behind, I usually don't say anything about the mess at UL (or TU) unless one of you come over and stir the pot. I have never posted on a UL board, but then I would be banned as soon as the name came up, LOL, like most of our posters are the first time they say anything even slightly derogatory.

I know it would take a long time, but why not TRY to dispute some of the facts in my posts, they need some more publicity.

Just win, baby.
You can't name one UL poster that has came to stir the pot in any kind of way in this thread. Also, all the ill toward UL transfers.Outside of you and a few poster here I'm sure they would definitely be welcomed with open arms to the UK program.

Your obsession with UL isn't healthy at all jauk. You come off as a 40 year old Virginia in your mom's basement,maybe you should call Katina for some services my man.
 

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I understand I'm a guest and since I've been posting here I have been nothing but respectful towards the other posters here. It's just crazy how both IL and UK fans can be having a civil discussion and Jauk constantly derails it with his completely off topic nonsense.

Go to your site and ask if I could get away with what you did and see all the posters that simply demean UK, just because.
 

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He does it all the time. If someone speaks truth about UK or speaks well of UL he tries to make UL look bad in whatever way he can to make himself feel better about us. Obviously they're the better program at this point in time which I really hate to admit. But it's the gods honest truth. That can and should change in UKs favor. But at this moment UL is obviously a much better FB program.

Most here see you as a UL fan pretending to be a UK fan. If so, so very sad.
 
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Go to your site and ask if I could get away with what you did and see all the posters that simply demean UK, just because.
I got banned over there for pointing out that rick had never beaten cal (at the time) and debunking ul is a better team. Literally 1 guy said take out the trash and I was immediately banned. I posted a few times since the format change but its like stalinist Russia over there.