My guess is he means 1 of the incoming recruits was having second thoughts (Tobias maybe?) And now that player is 100% on board. This is great to hear. I won't lie, I'm pretty shocked this class is sticking it out for UK. Can't wait to see these boys on campus next year.
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My guess is he means 1 of the incoming recruits was having second thoughts (Tobias maybe?) And now that player is 100% on board. This is great to hear. I won't lie, I'm pretty shocked this class is sticking it out for UK. Can't wait to see these boys on campus next year.
A defection or 2 is the norm. This class sticking together is very telling. This class also fills a lot of needs & will help take UK to the next level.
I don't think that UK has ever landed three 4 star OL (including 2 OT's), that had offers from Alabama, in the same class. The weakest & most important link on the team is about to get a whole lot better.
The DLine recruits look solid as well, especially Kobe Smith. Smith has a ton of potential... Pun not intended.
The DLine recruits look solid as well, especially Kobe Smith. Smith has a ton of potential... Pun not intended.
Yup. The o line recruits will especially help. God knows we need help there.
Who says we don't? Most of the time better players make better coaches.
I think the staff has shown it can develop talent. The in game coaching is what needs to improve. And hopefully it does.
Not sure why those two games (which we won btw) mean the staff can't develop players. Those two games were hard fought wins even though they shouldn't have been. That's in game management and coaching that needs to improve. I do think a few staff changes need to happen (especially firing Schlarman and Eliot) but overall the staff has done a solid job at development.
When are people gonna realize that your not gonna win 8 9 games with all your talent being freshman and sophomores.. anybody who does not think 5 wins is better than what Stoops inherited is an idiot. This team was starting 4 freshman dbs by the end of the year 7 or 8 wins would have been a miracle.
Sorry, but I couldn't let this slide. This staff has shown it can develop talent? Really? Can you give us some examples? Lol, goodness. I'd say right now they're about as far as they can get from "showing us" they can develop talent. You would struggle to find more than one or two players on the entire roster that have legitimately gotten better under this staff.
My mind continues to be blown by the people on this board finding nothing but positives about what was universally considered a debacle of a season by those that think rationally and leave their emotions out of it.
Why don't you go visit your own site for a while, brag about all the damage you are trying to do to our recruiting.
Although it doesn't seem to be working.
Thanks for the link, screwduke, backs up the impression I am getting.
Westry, Baity, Mike Edwards, Melvin Lewis. Zedarius Smith, Marcus McWilson, C.J Johnson, Garret Johnson, Boom Williams, Jo Jo Kemp, Jon Toth, Charles Walker, Josh Forrest. I am sure I am missing other.
Thanks, good list, but you are going to have to list everyone on the roster to please some of our fans.
They have done a decent job at developing most positions. It is the high profile positions of QB and WR where they have struggled and I think that leads many fans to conclude that they can't develop anybody. We were supposed to be in great shape at QB with Towles and Barker. Neither one lived up to their potential. Baker and Timmons have been busts at WR with Badet and Bone also being less than impressive. Snodgrass fizzled out and Conrad at TE disappeared. The Oline didn't develop very well either but they may have been a lost cause from the get go.
Omg we won against eku in 60 minute football game that went to overtime! How awesome!! Our offensive line didn't get better, Patrick towles got worse, the 2 most important positions in football where the game starts and ends, has seen zero improvement since day one. Our fundamentals are as bad as it gets, outside of a few exceptions we are horrible at tackling. Offensive line has zero discipline. I haven't seen any players develop to be honest. Westry was good since day one, he didn't develop he just has the ability. It wasn't like he went from being decent to good after some good coaching, he has always been good. Kinda like Randall Cobb, under the radar but no one developed him into what he was. He was just a special player.
The one player that I can say has improved is josh forest. I think that's where the list truely starts and ends maybe Edwards? He was always good I feel like though. Zadarius smith was the same player he was from day one til his very last game. All I see on that list are talented players that have been the exact same player since the day they arrived on campus, with forest being the exception. And I feel like that was more because of his will to than coaching development. horton still runs standing straight up. Alabama wanted Elam so bad, look what he is today. What happened to stamps and towles you all? Dorian baker, bone, Timmonsz if you all want to start. This will be a way longer list than the list of players who've performed above expectations. Merriman will never have a negative thing to say about this staff he's as unrealistic as a poster can get. He sees nothing but greatness out of stoops. The guy is clueless. If merriman agrees with what any poster is saying then it really means nothing as far as credibility to that post goes.
I'd add JD Harmon to that list. I thought he quietly had a solid year. Great post though.
You say "we", but you're not even a fan of this team. I don't understand.
Yea I have as much knowledge as I do about the team because I watch them all the time. I guess I just watch them all the time because I enjoy watching bad football couldn't possibly be because I was born this way.
I agree. He's a former walkon from Paducah who has turned into a very solid player with big play potential.
Seems there are others that think you are clueless as well. Now you can stop stalking my posts and calling me out every time you make a ridiculous argument.
Khalid Henderson developed really well. After his sophomore year I thought he'd transfer and never play a down. Had a pretty solid sr year.
This staff has a lot to prove next year but Geeze some of you must be joys to be around in real life.
This staff has a lot to prove next year but Geeze some of you must be joys to be around in real life.
The O line is what is needing development the most. It was attocious. I think our D is ahead of offense cause the simple fact is they lived on the field. The O line broke down so many times with 3 and outs etc.. We get that developed I think this team can finnaly take a step forward. Sustain some drives give our D more rest through out games etc.. Oline development IMO is the major key going forward.
Most people on this board will acknowledge that I am very contrary. I disagree with plenty of people. I enjoy it. I am tired of disagreeing with you. I think you are an a$$(I can't say it because I've been warned) If we can keep up getting these guys, we can be good. I want us to be good. I get frustrated and complain, but I want what is best. I think you just like to complain. Get lost.
That's why this program is a "dumpster fire" under Stoops. If only he were like the other 50 coaches before him, then we would still be dominant!!! Oh...wait...nevermind.
True, and, IMO, is the position with the most potential for great improvement in the next couple of years. Which is reason for some optimism.
It's hard to please some fans. I could add many players on the team that have showed dramatic improvement, but I'll just mention one - Josh Forrest. Recruited as a WR to become one of the SECs leading tacklers and best libebackers and a player that will get a chance to play on Sundays.
Players on D have definitely improved since Stoops arrived. Cant say the same for the offense. I cant name one player on offense thats gotten better. Boom was the same, he just got more carries. MAYBE Toth? Juice? Minimal improvement, if any.
Thats what concerned me most about the offense. Players arent developing.
Ok merriman. Enlighten me. What did I say that comes off as clueless? Just because people don't like what I'm saying, doesn't mean I'm clueless. I don't see anything wrong that I've posted, seems to be all correct to me. Funny coming from the guy that wanted to call THIS YEARS USC TEAM the EQUIVALENT to LAST YEARS FLORIDA TEAM (your exact words btw) in order to make the argument that it was a quality win against a good team. And you also said its a fact that stoops is a great coach considering we've improved every year since he's been here (we absolutely didn't improve between years 2 and 3 if anything we regressed, if anyone wants to call this season an improvement they're an absolute moron). Might want to point the finger at yourself if you're talking clueless.
Ha! Now how does it feel? You called me clueless and much worse for having a different opinion than you. Now when I do it you get upset. And NEVER did I say Stoops was a great coach. I said he improved the em team every year.
Funny you keep using the same arguments against me although I have explained my stance many times. And those are my OPINIONS, and I used information to back up my opinions. So you are in agreement that you should not call names due to difference in opinions. Then practice what you preach.
theyre not really opinions when they're proven to be false, but ok man.
What have you proven false? Nothing.
What have you used to support your opinion? You claim to watch the games a lot. That is weak as I am sure we all do.
What have I don't to back up my opinions? I have given clear explanations of my thoughts. And how do you rebut my thoughts? Through name calling. Seems to me like you don't have a real thought other than just hating on UK football and any coach who is here.