Interesting Georgetown Transfer Mac Mcclung
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Interesting! According to his Rivals page he was not offered by NU but had offers from Yale and Air Force so grades should not be a problem.
If it were for just one year and we had three open scholarships, I can’t imagine he would hurt the team.
A guy averaging 15+ pts a game? Course we don’t need anyone like that. Maybe Cleveland State does. But not NU or Duke.
"Per NCAA rules, McClung must sit one year and will have two seasons of eligibility remaining, but he tells ESPN he will file a waiver and hopes to be eligible immediately in 2020-2021."
Even if he got that waiver, does NU want to fill another roster spot in 2021-22?
Even if he got that waiver, does NU want to fill another roster spot in 2021-22?
He averaged 16 pts/game in conference this year before getting injured but needed to take 15.3 shots per game to get those 16 points. Miller Kopp took the most shots/game of anyone on the team in conference play this year at 11.6. So no, I don't think we need another high-volume inefficient shooter.A guy averaging 15+ pts a game? Course we don’t need anyone like that. Maybe Cleveland State does. But not NU or Duke.
With a guy scoring 15ppg in the Big East? Yeah, I think so. He would immediately be one of the top three scorers.
A guy averaging 15+ pts a game? Course we don’t need anyone like that. Maybe Cleveland State does. But not NU or Duke.
I’m with you, this thread is mind boggling. We were a last place team and we don’t think a guy who scored 15ppg a game for Georgetown would help?
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GatoLouco said:
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A guy averaging 15+ pts a game? Course we don’t need anyone like that. Maybe Cleveland State does. But not NU or Duke.
I’m with you, this thread is mind boggling. We were a last place team and we don’t think a guy who scored 15ppg a game for Georgetown would help?
Somehow this board seems to believe, for 5 seconds, that we are true contender for anyone available. Could swear this is a Duke/NC/UK/KU board. Oh can we be choosy!
And yet, we are so far from even being on the radar of most guys out there.
Where did our last transfer recruits come from? Any P6 dudes? WM, Evansville and almost a Valpo
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GatoLouco said:
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A guy averaging 15+ pts a game? Course we don’t need anyone like that. Maybe Cleveland State does. But not NU or Duke.
I’m with you, this thread is mind boggling. We were a last place team and we don’t think a guy who scored 15ppg a game for Georgetown would help?
Somehow this board seems to believe, for 5 seconds, that we are true contender for anyone available. Could swear this is a Duke/NC/UK/KU board. Oh can we be choosy!
And yet, we are so far from even being on the radar of most guys out there.
Where did our last transfer recruits come from? Any P6 dudes? WM, Evansville and almost a Valpo
This guy is going to play in the League, and some people here think we wouldn’t have room for him on our roster.
WTF?
WTF?
This thread is insane.
He plays guard, right?
His assist to turnovers is a 1. Which would make him the worst guard for that stat at NU.
He shoots 39%.....29% from three....comparable to Anthony Gaines who is a defensive specialist. But much, much higher volume.
If he had four years of eligibility I'd still rather have any of the guards committed to NU....or any that NU is close to getting.
He plays guard, right?
His assist to turnovers is a 1. Which would make him the worst guard for that stat at NU.
He shoots 39%.....29% from three....comparable to Anthony Gaines who is a defensive specialist. But much, much higher volume.
If he had four years of eligibility I'd still rather have any of the guards committed to NU....or any that NU is close to getting.
Not sure where you are getting your numbers. ESPN has McClung's Assist to Turnover rate as 1.4 for last year. For context Boo Buie was 1.3. And I'm not saying he's better than Buie, but the idea that you wouldn't rather have Mac taking Greer's minutes or the idea that he couldn't help a last place Big 10 team that had trouble scoring seems odd.
I ball parked it, for his career he's at 1.1 which is not good. As a frosh he had more turnovers than assists.
He wouldn't take Greer's minutes because he's not a point guard. He'd take Gaines....or Audige....or Kopp minutes.
I'd prefer to give Ty Berry any avail. minutes so he can develop. I'd rather bet that Ty Berry shoots better than 29 percent from three. I'd opt to give Boo, Berry, Roper and possibly Bates (along w Greer who this year had a 5:1 A/TO) all the space and time they need.
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Actually, the reason he gave for transferring is that he wants to play PG and Ewing said nope. So I bet he finds a school that will accommodate his wishes.
I agree. McClung has ridiculous hops and had some amazing high school highlights. But his all-around game doesn't seem that good. Maybe a slightly better version of Johnny Vassar.
I agree. McClung has ridiculous hops and had some amazing high school highlights. But his all-around game doesn't seem that good. Maybe a slightly better version of Johnny Vassar.
I hear you on developing talent . . . but we won a grand total of 7 BIG games in the last two years. We need help. Not saying that he we would come in and be a star or savior but I struggle to understand why people think he wouldn't at least help. Berry has never played college basketball. Audige played 1 year for a tiny school and didn't average double digits. Yet, people think that this guy who dropped 33 points on the road at Oklahoma State and 26 points on the road at Syracuse couldn't push our guys?
It's time for this program to live or die on its recruits and player development instead of searching for quick fixes in the portal. Let's see what the guys Collins has recruited can do. Either they perform and help Collins set a new foundation, or they don't and we have to find someone who will.
I think we have a handle on how kids Collins recruited have done. About half are decent, the other half not so much.
I actually like this approach but that's only if changes would actually be made. I asked the question at the start of the season what record would get Collins fired and Haywood (who we all acknowledge has his pulse on the administration) said no record would get CC fired anytime soon. So even if we lost to Radford and Merrimack and finish in the basement this year (which we did) and next year as well, it wouldn't matter.
That's why I want to see us add people in the portal. Even if CC's recruits don't work out or they leave, he's our coach for the foreseeable future. I want to see us win games and if that means adding players through the portal then so be it.
In 2020 you have to get guys in the portal too. Every team has guys leave. You can’t replace them all with high 3* high schoolers that need a year or two to be ready. Otherwise you’re always a year away from being competitive. It’s just how it is for every school that isn’t a blue blood.
We all have stars in our eyes and don’t want to “waste” a schollie on someone who isn’t Baldwin or Christie. Thing is, as much as we are all hoping, they’re still long shots. It’s a tough place to be, but I’d take McClung if he wanted to come to NU. And if PBJ et al want to still come to NU we’ll find a way to make it work.
We can spin this wheel for a few more days (or not).
There's a group that will take a 6 2 scoring guard who shoots .39 from the floor and .29 from three, for two years and block out the addition of a four-year player. The next comment this group makes about said player's defense (last I checked, NU plays in the Big Ten) will be the first.
The player is moving schools to play PG. So, presumably, the advocates here think it's smart to slot in a guy with next to no PG experience into a group that already has Boo, Roper, Greer and some Berry.
4-5 PGs on the roster after the player sits out a year.
Makes total sense.
There's a group that will take a 6 2 scoring guard who shoots .39 from the floor and .29 from three, for two years and block out the addition of a four-year player. The next comment this group makes about said player's defense (last I checked, NU plays in the Big Ten) will be the first.
The player is moving schools to play PG. So, presumably, the advocates here think it's smart to slot in a guy with next to no PG experience into a group that already has Boo, Roper, Greer and some Berry.
4-5 PGs on the roster after the player sits out a year.
Makes total sense.
That's fair. Working the portal is a mandatory skill for coaches now. But the essential problem remains that our high 3-star and 4-star recruits haven't been ready to go for a few years now. It's hard to imagine the top transfers or top-50 recruits coming here without confidence that there's already a base of steady players and an established culture.
Play in the B1G.
Play in Chicago.
Get a great education.
Play for Chris Collins.
He likes the color Purple.
Eat at Mustard’s Last Stand.
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Play in Evanston not Chicago
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Might be a negative to some
Great
Deal clincher!!
This thread is bizarre. McClung would arguably be the best player on NU next year! How many guys does NU have that put up 33 in game and averaged almost 16? McClung has next to no help offensively at Georgetown when they got hit by injuries. Of course, percentages drop when the other team focuses on stopping you.
if he is a sit a year out guy, pass. If he is immediately eligible, take.
You need to double check the shooting percentages you are quoting.
here's a cut and paste of McClung's stats from G'Towns media briefing on March 11 of this year, immediately prior to the season shut down
TOTAL 50-49 1331/26.6 236-601 .393 70-237 .295 168-210 .800 38 103 141 2.8 89-0 109 96 8 53 710 14.2
Those are cumulative stats.
So, if you have a ***** with that, call Georgetown.
Best player at NU isn’t saying much and is also not correct. Kopp and Buie are far better than this kid.
I like both the players you listed, but I don’t think this is true at all. Neither of those guys would’ve gotten much playing time at Georgetown last year (prior to the injury bug and transfers that hit them mid season).
Most people quote the stats of transfer players has the previous year. You seem to have an issue with his shooting percentages because he doesn’t have a stroke like Kopp. McClung isn’t Klay Thompson, but he would have been NU’s top scorer, 3rd in 3 PT% and 3rd in FT %.
You comped him to Gaines which makes no sense if you have seen him play. The best comp is Buie and I will take another Buie with hops all day. Buie is more of a ball handler now but not as athletic. Both are not afraid out there to take a shot and both need to shoot better.