IOWA and GABE ARNOLD

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But you also respect the heck out of the non-team player Mo, so you saying it doesn't mean much
Mo is a team player. You don't even know Mo. Ask Gabe what kind of a man Mo is if you want a fair opinion. Maybe Phil would like to comment on Mo's character?
 
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holy ****, are you actually trying to compare Gabe going to 197 and Barr going to 197? 🤣
What’s that old saying…it’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you’re an idiot, than open it and leave no doubt? Something like that
Your point? Gabe was projected as a 184 in the Big board rankings where Barr was a 174. Barr was already way taller so that can't be what you mean. Barr was walking around at 194 last year and Gabe was just as heavy if not a bit bigger. One coach had his guy cut to 174 while the other didn't. Brands knew PK and MK were back at 165 and 174. He knew Angelo was a 184. Gabe would have had a very good season at 197 from the git go but they choose to bring in a 197 transfer instead. What part of that is too difficult for you? It was mismanaged by Brands. You guys deserve what you get - you defended it long enough that now it seems ok. Gabe was amazing with the deck stacked against him, but the dealer that stacked the deck against him is the coach you keep defending. Carry on.
 
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Your point? Gabe was projected as a 184 in the Big board rankings where Barr was a 174. Barr was already way taller so that can't be what you mean. Barr was walking around at 194 last year and Gabe was just as heavy if not a bit bigger. One coach had his guy cut to 174 while the other didn't. Brands knew PK and MK were back at 165 and 174. He knew Angelo was a 184. Gabe would have had a very good season at 197 from the git go but they choose to bring in a 197 transfer instead. What part of that is too difficult for you? It was mismanaged by Brands. You guys deserve what you get - you defended it long enough that now it seems ok. Gabe was amazing with the deck stacked against him, but the dealer that stacked the deck against him is the coach you keep defending. Carry on.
Two distinctly different body types. Gabe has no business at 197. NONE. He weighed in fully fed at 190. That is an AVERAGE 174. Not even one really cutting hard weight.

His ideal weight is absolutely 174. If he can maintain a healthy diet and weight maintenance regimen, he should be pretty damn special next year at that weight!
 

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Your point? Gabe was projected as a 184 in the Big board rankings where Barr was a 174. Barr was already way taller so that can't be what you mean. Barr was walking around at 194 last year and Gabe was just as heavy if not a bit bigger. One coach had his guy cut to 174 while the other didn't. Brands knew PK and MK were back at 165 and 174. He knew Angelo was a 184. Gabe would have had a very good season at 197 from the git go but they choose to bring in a 197 transfer instead. What part of that is too difficult for you? It was mismanaged by Brands. You guys deserve what you get - you defended it long enough that now it seems ok. Gabe was amazing with the deck stacked against him, but the dealer that stacked the deck against him is the coach you keep defending. Carry on.
Im not defending anybody. Im saying you comparing Barr to Gabe at 197 is an absolutely absurd take. I guess everyone, not just Iowa fans, talking about how impressive it was for him to AA at 197 are just idiots. Has there ever even been another 5’6ā€ AA at 197?
 
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That was my point. PSU had a plan and Brands simply let what happened happen. Gabe was put in this situation by these coaches. Why was he cutting to 174 for the Salute? Once Mo was gone why wasn't he given matches at 197 instead of 174. They had him cut to 174 for the PSU dual when they already knew he would go 197 in the post season. It was an amazing effort by Gabe, but it should have never been asked. Do you really think that was handled correctly?

Because 174 is his natural weight and he was already "there." Endene was out on the 13th and the PSU dual was just a few days later. He never saw 174 again.

I can't imagine how big of a bonehead you have to be to see Arnold do what he did and then question if he was prepared well by the coaches. That's next level stupidity.
 

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Im not defending anybody. Im saying you comparing Barr to Gabe at 197 is an absolutely absurd take. I guess everyone, not just Iowa fans, talking about how impressive it was for him to AA at 197 are just idiots. Has there ever even been another 5’6ā€ AA at 197?
Max Dean looked life a dwarf next to Warner too. Gabe did really well against many taller guys. When did I ever say it wasn't impressive that he achieved AA status? Your straw man argument is weak sauce. Do you think that was managed correctly by this coaching staff? Talk about idiots out wandering around!
 

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Max Dean looked life a dwarf next to Warner too. Gabe did really well against many taller guys. When did I ever say it wasn't impressive that he achieved AA status? Your straw man argument is weak sauce. Do you think that was managed correctly by this coaching staff? Talk about idiots out wandering around!
Well considering EVERYONE is saying what an accomplishment it is…ya i think they did a DAMN good job preparing him. How high was he going to need to place for you to say, ā€œnice coaching job TnT!ā€? Cause apparently AAing wasn’t enough šŸ™„
 

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Well considering EVERYONE is saying what an accomplishment it is…ya i think they did a DAMN good job preparing him. How high was he going to need to place for you to say, ā€œnice coaching job TnT!ā€? Cause apparently AAing wasn’t enough šŸ™„
He did an amazing job, but the guys who put him behind the 8 ball did a less than stellar job putting him there unseeded and more undersized than he had to be. If you are happy with how all of this was handled from the Mo situation to Gabe not getting matches at 197 nobody is going to change your mind. Gabe improved handling the size of these guys as the tournament went. He was much better at NCAA than he was at the BIG. I believe he would have been even better with 10 more matches under his belt at 197. He made the absolute best of a bad situation. I think he deserved better.
 
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That was my point. PSU had a plan and Brands simply let what happened happen. Gabe was put in this situation by these coaches. Why was he cutting to 174 for the Salute? Once Mo was gone why wasn't he given matches at 197 instead of 174. They had him cut to 174 for the PSU dual when they already knew he would go 197 in the post season. It was an amazing effort by Gabe, but it should have never been asked. Do you really think that was handled correctly?
Truth be told Gabe achieved the impossible in my opinion. Wrestling up 2 weights I thought going 2-2 would have been impressive. Achieving AA? Just WOW! He wanted it bad!!
 

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Gabe did 2 things Mo couldn't do AA and be a team player. Now hes getting recruited over in Ames with Novak. Just put the 🤔 on ignore . The way others are responding I can tell he's pouting his boy Mo didn't get it done. He's a Penn St fan here to start problems. He probably has never met Mo
 

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He did an amazing job, but the guys who put him behind the 8 ball did a less than stellar job putting him there unseeded and more undersized than he had to be. If you are happy with how all of this was handled from the Mo situation to Gabe not getting matches at 197 nobody is going to change your mind. Gabe improved handling the size of these guys as the tournament went. He was much better at NCAA than he was at the BIG. I believe he would have been even better with 10 more matches under his belt at 197. He made the absolute best of a bad situation. I think he deserved better.

They are such idiots.

If they had just let him wrestle there all year, he would have won the NCAAs and the 2028 Olympics even though it is only 2026.

Why? Because I said so.

Again, how next level dumb do you have to be to criticize Iowa’s coaches for a backup 174 making the podium at 197? I bet you eat a ton of pudding.
 

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Max Dean looked life a dwarf next to Warner too. Gabe did really well against many taller guys. When did I ever say it wasn't impressive that he achieved AA status? Your straw man argument is weak sauce. Do you think that was managed correctly by this coaching staff? Talk about idiots out wandering around!
Not to get involved but major weak sauce would be using the old outdated idiots out......
Gotta be better ....
 

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Gabe did 2 things Mo couldn't do AA and be a team player. Now hes getting recruited over in Ames with Novak. Just put the 🤔 on ignore . The way others are responding I can tell he's pouting his boy Mo didn't get it done. He's a Penn St fan here to start problems. He probably has never met Mo
You read every post I type. You are my personal nut sucker.
 
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Great video to watch of Gabe and Bader.

Just a short summary he talked about being "removed" from the team, being back on, going between the 3 weights, towards the end of the video he said he's preparing for the US open at 79 KG

Fun interview. He also says he’s going 174 next year. Excited to see what he can do at the weight as I think it will be wide open. I think he has great shot to be wrestling Saturday night in St Louis next year.