Will Duke ever play an away game in their non conference schedule? Just wondering.
Is Duke ever going to play an away game?
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Can't look up their schedule on the net by yourself? Just wondering. BTW , I have no idea who your fav team is but this is one of the more lame/transparent questions a rival fan can ask. The main reason a rival fan asks this question is because Duke's ooc slate doesn't meet with their approval...usually because they perceive it to be "too easy." The thinking is that Duke has a better chance to LOSE when they play on the road as opposed to playing at home or a neutral site so THAT'S why rivals are concerned with who/where Duke plays. Obviously , they wanna watch Duke take an "L" instead of watching Duke thrash yet another opponent. That's where the "transparency" of their interest comes from. At the end of the day , how many ooc games are we talkin' about anyway? One? Two maybe? All this concern over a game or two? Pretty lame , right? Besides , pretty sure Duke fans and Coach K don't give 2 sheets about how rivals rate his ooc schedule. One other thing...how did an ooc game on the road become tougher than an ACC game away from CIS? Just wondering. unx is no picnic anywhere much less at their place. State? Raleigh has been a nightmare for Duke. Last year , Duke damn-near lost to VTech at Blacksburg and that was with a team that eventually won the national title. Syracuse is a madhouse. South Bend? WTF? The point is obvious. ACC road games are always a bear and no ooc game vs whoever is any tougher. Rivals just wanna see Duke in the best position to lose. Understandable but it's a transparent and lame concern.
OP, speaking of away, how 'bout considering that the next time you think of us.
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The NCAA tourney is played on neutral sites, they are not considered "away" games, so what's the big deal if Duke likes to schedule neutral site games early.
Yeah, why would you schedule true away games unless you had to for the matchup? We get great teams to play us at big arenas. If titles are the goal, you play for the best seeding. Why go to Northern Iowa? Nothing to gain.
Next year we'll play @ the #1 Big 10 venue ooc. So Mich State or Maryland is likely.
Next year we'll play @ the #1 Big 10 venue ooc. So Mich State or Maryland is likely.
Actually Kentucky and Calipari have been scheduling non conference neutral sites the past few years, copying what Duke and Coach K does. And how can anyone argue with a coach that has 1,000 wins and 5 National Championships.
You don't have to like him but 5 titles and 9 title game appearances...give me another coach with that resume. I would say whatever team you like could probably use your expertise right about now.
Why would we? When we play neutral floor game, we generate more money, larger crowds and the last time I checked, the NCAA tournament wasn't played in an "away" venue"... Oh yeah, we also have 3 national championships over the past 15 years with our current scheduling strategy... Anymore questions?
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Haha, why are we feeding the troll?
Feed the hungry. Just don't him after midnight...wait those are gremlins. Dammit.
Because we know that we wouldn't even win a quarter of the games we do in a season if we did.
Actually we are just scared to that's all it is.
Actually we are just scared to that's all it is.
I hope unx fans don't think Roy scheduled that game so his team would have a tougher ooc slate. He scheduled it because Marcus Paige is from that area and he wanted to give the senior a trip back home. K's done that before. Duke's games in Oregon for Singler and Dunleavy are two that come to mind. Lotsa coaches do it. It's not a new practice nor is it done to make the schedule tougher.
Oh gee whiz. Another one. We are supposed to be nice to posters like you. The answer is NO. Duke is a privileged and entitled program. In other words Duke is special. What if lost a game away. How embarrassing and devastating would that be. Duke can't have that can they. Wonder why teams like Elon and Buffalo want to play their games at Duke.
I know what you really want to know is why don't we play teams like UK, MSU, KU, Gonzaga, Arizona, Wichita St. and other power houses like Northern Iowa on their home courts. It's because we're afraid we will get beat and have it reflect on Coach K's winning percentage. Is this the answer your were seeking. And since I have been so cordial and obliging to you would you be so kind as to let us know what team you support? Awaiting patiently for your response to this post. OFC
I was actually thinking the reason Duke doesn't play away games during their out of conference schedule is to inflate their win total to make sure they get a one or two seed in the tournament. Then they can play the first two rounds of the tourney at neutral site like Greensboro or Charlotte. It's great thinking and obviously very successful.
That reasoning is not correct. Duke plays a strong schedule every year. Playing true road games out of conference, win or lose, will boost your measurables come seeding time. So that theory is misleading.
Duke is going to most likely going to play close to North Carolina no matter what seed they get. The NCAA wants to sell out their regional stuff so they tend to allow most popular teams from an area of the country the opportunity to fill seats. Though Duke would probably get a good amount of people in the seats no matter where they go.
Is it really hard to see the logic of playing quality competition in big arenas (as opposed to on-campus facilities)? The NCAA Tournament, particularly the later rounds, is played in giant arenas. Why would a team not value getting that experience ahead of time?
Call me crazy, but I'm going to say that the guy with 1000+ wins, 5 National Championships, and more NCAA Tournament wins than ANYONE EVER knows a little about what he's doing.
Call me crazy, but I'm going to say that the guy with 1000+ wins, 5 National Championships, and more NCAA Tournament wins than ANYONE EVER knows a little about what he's doing.
Duke plays a top five schedule almost every season. Every season. We also play in historically the toughest conference in the country.
As the best in the business, Coach K faces many detractors. This is just another one of them. If you can't beat him, if you aren't better or if you're looking for anything to attack....just go after his character. It's the American way. Besides....he's used to it.
Maybe we can schedule a game at ASU then and give you a butt whipping, is that what you'd like Rancher?
OP. If you don't take anything else from this great first post of yours, please remember, it is much harder to get the referees to accept a payoff for on the road OOC games. We like to play as many neutral court games as possible (if we can't play at home), it saves us a lot of money!
I was really just trying to be tactful in this message, but in case you don't know:
TACT is the ability to tell someone to GO TO HELL in such a way that they LOOK FORWARD TO THE TRIP! Enjoy your trip back to where you came from!
Go Duke!!
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I was really just trying to be tactful in this message, but in case you don't know:
TACT is the ability to tell someone to GO TO HELL in such a way that they LOOK FORWARD TO THE TRIP! Enjoy your trip back to where you came from!
Go Duke!!
JC-OFC
I frankly think the scheduling is all driven by revenue / fund-raising. Duke's got a huge alumni base in NY and along the Acela corridor (which is where I and most of my college friends from Duke live along) and these games up in the North Easteast give Duke a chance to reconnect with its alums, and hold fundraising events. Also, it allows Duke to generate revenue from non-Cameron games against great competition -- whereas Duke would get $0 from playing an away game at UCLA, for instance. I don't know the precise numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Duke makes more money from the upcoming Duke v. Utah game up in MSG than they would if UK came to Cameron -- just b/c of the increased attendance + NY alums are willing to dish out for the occasional game in NY.
If we wanted to play true home-and-away games against elite programs I'm sure we could play one a year, but it really doesn't make much of a difference -- as we already face tremendous neutral cite competition in the Champions classic & a preseason tournament, typically have a home-and-away in the Big 10 challenge against a very good team, and then generally one other big neutral cite game every season in the NY area. Then couple that with the new ACC schedule that takes us to extremely challenging venues like the Carrier Dome, KFC Yum, Dean Dome, etc. -- there's really no shortage of opportunities to play in tough environments. This really is such a non-issue for Duke.
Duke fans are all well aware of that. It is just another thing the desperate cling to now that K, with his unbelievable accomplishments, is in essence above reproach. It's a tired and easily refuted argument, as most of them are.
You beat me to it son. I doubt it happens at ASU or Duke I don't think Coach K feels comfortable with scheduling a game with a former player or assistant coach. Of course N.D. is in the ACC and it could happen in the national tourney though. OFC
While I can see how someone without real knowledge would look at it that way, how do you explain 5 titles and 9 title game appearance? Surely, you can't think that inflating all these win totals guarantees a team to be in the final game? No other coach currently and very few in history can claim that type of success.
So while you can have your opinion, you truly have no idea what you're talking about. Other teams wish they had that type of success over the last 35 years.
You DO know who ASU's coach is and where he went to school , right? Can we assume you also know what coach he played for during his collegiate career too? If ya don't know the answers to those questions , find out and get back to us. One other thing...before ya return try and find out how ASU's coach feels about K. Ya know , find out what his opinion is of Coach K in particular AND how he feels about Duke University in general. Interested to see if the Sun Devil's coach has the same opinion as you.
Again , we're talkin' about only 1 or 2 games a year. If K wanted to inflate his "win total" he's sure as heck takin' his time about it. Lulz. Pretty sure an extra win ( or two ) here or there isn't going to determine Duke's seeding anyway. They're not a mid-major. They're not a "bubble-team." They don't play in a conference where only the champ of that conference gets a bid. Ya watch a lotta basketball?
I don't remember saying anything derogatory toward Coach K. Matter of fact no one is more impressed with his record and accomplishments. I've even had the pleasure of meeting coach K three times and every time I could not been more impressed with his class and graciousness. A true gentlemen.
My question was why Duke never schedules an away ooc game. My question has been completely answered. Thank you.
I'm totally pleased that you've been answered...completely. I will sleep much better knowing this.
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Probably because the acceptance rate is 85%. If you have a pulse, you can basically get into ASU:
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/asu-1081
I do think it's funny that they say: "It is selective, with an acceptance rate of 84.3 percent." US News must have a different definition for the word selective...