think last year was a fluke? I'm don't see any preseason talk that has us even in the conversation for a West title. Phil Steele, Athlon, Lindy's- I don't think any of them have us predicted in the top 25. The only place I've seen "darkhorse" is from Chris Low- and he's gonna say good things about everybody. I just figured how we competed last year, bowlthrashing,and what we have coming back would bring a little more attention. But I actually think this will play to our favor come kickoff.
Is it just me or do most people, both Nationally and regionally...
- Thread starter Hector.sixpack
- Start date
think last year was a fluke? I'm don't see any preseason talk that has us even in the conversation for a West title. Phil Steele, Athlon, Lindy's- I don't think any of them have us predicted in the top 25. The only place I've seen "darkhorse" is from Chris Low- and he's gonna say good things about everybody. I just figured how we competed last year, bowlthrashing,and what we have coming back would bring a little more attention. But I actually think this will play to our favor come kickoff.
game versus any of the following teams... which would you pick? And "none" is an acceptable answer.
vs. LSU
vs. USC
vs. BAMA
at ARK
From where I sit, we're shaping up to be another 8-4 team with a shot at the Chik-Fil-A bowl. Which will put us right on the cusp of top 25 at the end of the year. I can't say I disagree with people who have us just outside of the top 25.
If we upset one of those teams, we'll be just inside the top 20... if we upset two, we'll be on the cusp of top 10.
vs. LSU
vs. USC
vs. BAMA
at ARK
From where I sit, we're shaping up to be another 8-4 team with a shot at the Chik-Fil-A bowl. Which will put us right on the cusp of top 25 at the end of the year. I can't say I disagree with people who have us just outside of the top 25.
If we upset one of those teams, we'll be just inside the top 20... if we upset two, we'll be on the cusp of top 10.
yeah but for the first time in a long time, i probably wouldn't put my life savings on thecon consensuspreseason top 4 sec teams over msu right now either.
We will beat our four ooc games. Auburn, KY and Ole Miss are three Conference games we should win. If we can go into GA and win that might be considered a up set I don't know but that is another game we could win. If it happens GA could have anew coach that following Monday. Ark, Alabama, LSU and S. Carolina, I don't know.
but i honestly can't really disagree with anyone leaving us out of their top 25... except Lou Holtz, because he'll have ND in there.</p>
...flying under the radar is exactly where you want this team to be.
This team doesn't need to be getting their asses kissed by summer magazines.
That never works out well. Just ask the Bears from a couple of years ago.
This team doesn't need to be getting their asses kissed by summer magazines.
That never works out well. Just ask the Bears from a couple of years ago.
but since we are just talking about it I'd say we come out 2-2. All but Arkansas is at home, and we are a much different team at home under Mullen. I don't know, I'm "trying" to be objective- but we just took it to another level at the end of last year. We looked like championship material in the bowl game.
1) Name MSU's biggest home win under Dan Mullen. I'll help. It's either the under-achieving UGA win from last year or the Ole Miss win from 2009. Nothing earth shattering there.
2) We did not look like a championship team because we throttled an extremely average Michigan team. We played our asses off.... no doubt... but championship team is a HUGE stretch there. Michigan got their brakes beat off a couple of times... and that defense was one of the worst in UM's history.
I'll clarify some things first... I'm driving the Dan Mullen bandwagon. The guy is a genius. I am completely, 100% behind him. But he hasn't won a huge game yet. When he takes down a top 15 team, then we can start complaining about national respect. Mullen has done everything possible with what he's been giving.... but we're still not there yet. Give him time though and we will be.
2) We did not look like a championship team because we throttled an extremely average Michigan team. We played our asses off.... no doubt... but championship team is a HUGE stretch there. Michigan got their brakes beat off a couple of times... and that defense was one of the worst in UM's history.
I'll clarify some things first... I'm driving the Dan Mullen bandwagon. The guy is a genius. I am completely, 100% behind him. But he hasn't won a huge game yet. When he takes down a top 15 team, then we can start complaining about national respect. Mullen has done everything possible with what he's been giving.... but we're still not there yet. Give him time though and we will be.
You can Bet that our SEC opponents have a weary eye turned toward the Dogs!
The Guru guys are just trying to make conversation, and sell stuff.
The Guru guys are just trying to make conversation, and sell stuff.
in fact I think the UGA game on the road will be a tougher game because it is on the road. USC and UGA should be very comparable this year but I believe we will have a heck of a home field advantage this year. Whether it will be enough for us to upset LSU or AL remains to be seen but I believe it will be enough to beat USC who IMO is not a great road team. The @Arkansas game I would count as the toughest of the year for us because of Arkansas bringing back an improving team and our traditional lack of success in Little Rock. Now as far as betting my life savings on any one game I probably wouldn't do that even for us to beat Memphis. Seen too many crazy things in college football over the years to believe any game is a 100% certainty.
that will be more like top5
.we got extremely lucky last year, too
keenum was out
aj was out
florida was anemic on offense
michigan was terrible on d
.we finished 5th in our divison
.3 of those team are rated to be better than last year
.you have to beat top teams on the field before you receive praise during preseason
.we got extremely lucky last year, too
keenum was out
aj was out
florida was anemic on offense
michigan was terrible on d
.we finished 5th in our divison
.3 of those team are rated to be better than last year
.you have to beat top teams on the field before you receive praise during preseason
Fla. has new coaches, and a new offense (but we don't play them)...learning curve
Auburn, lost 18 starters, hard to reload that many, when you were lucky last year.
OM is going to be OM again
all winners have some luck. We are going to better, more mature at most positions, other than the O line, and LB...we should be better.
just a few points.
Auburn, lost 18 starters, hard to reload that many, when you were lucky last year.
OM is going to be OM again
all winners have some luck. We are going to better, more mature at most positions, other than the O line, and LB...we should be better.
just a few points.
they are putting a whole lot of faith in a guy who had one good game. After he takes half a season worth of beatings let's see how well he can do.
From 1997-2000 national and regional media thought we would be lucky to make a bowl, but we always ended up beating some "top" teams in the SEC and comfortably making a bowl...and obviously winning the West in '98. It will only change if we ever string a couple 10+ win seasons together, otherwise to the media (and most opposing fans in the SEC) "it's just Mississippi State". </p>
Last year's team was a few dropped balls (AU) and a coughed up pigskin inside the 5 yard line (OT ARK) from finishing 10-2 regular season and probably playing in the Sugar Bowl. Only 2 games we weren't in were LSU and Bama.
Secondly, I don't know what type of mental state someone would have to be in to bet their entire life savings on any SEC team versus another SEC team, unless one of the said teams is Vandy, and that's not always a sure thing.
From an outsiders perspective, you'd have to look at how teams finished last season, who lost what, and how did the returning players develop and progress throughout the season.
Relf, Ballard, and Perkins just found their stride the final 3 games. We lost arguably the least key position players from last years team, as compared to every other SEC team. Also, had Ralph been as efficient passing early in the season, last year's team probably hangs tighter with Bayou Bengals and steamrolls throug a couple of the other close W's. We have arguably the most athletic QB in the conference. When's the last time those words have been used regarding a MSU QB? Maybe never. Not to mention, a bevy of experienced talented receivers. Honestly, for the first time ever, when I look at the upcoming schedule, I do not see a game where I think to myself, "17 we don't have a chance in hell to win that one." Every single game is winnable for the first time in a long damn time.
LSU will have a new O coordinator, and JJ couldn't grasp the previous offense after a few years. Bama lost a lot of key, experienced players. Arkansas will look a lot different. Auburn will look like an expansion team. And I'm leaving out some team in the west but I don't think they'll be a factor for years to come. Given, all but one of the teams in the West has <span style="font-style: italic;">more talent on paper, </span>but that's why they play the game.
Based solely on last season's progression, players returning, and schedule set up for the upcoming season, I don't see how MSU can be left out of any top 25 poll.
Secondly, I don't know what type of mental state someone would have to be in to bet their entire life savings on any SEC team versus another SEC team, unless one of the said teams is Vandy, and that's not always a sure thing.
From an outsiders perspective, you'd have to look at how teams finished last season, who lost what, and how did the returning players develop and progress throughout the season.
Relf, Ballard, and Perkins just found their stride the final 3 games. We lost arguably the least key position players from last years team, as compared to every other SEC team. Also, had Ralph been as efficient passing early in the season, last year's team probably hangs tighter with Bayou Bengals and steamrolls throug a couple of the other close W's. We have arguably the most athletic QB in the conference. When's the last time those words have been used regarding a MSU QB? Maybe never. Not to mention, a bevy of experienced talented receivers. Honestly, for the first time ever, when I look at the upcoming schedule, I do not see a game where I think to myself, "17 we don't have a chance in hell to win that one." Every single game is winnable for the first time in a long damn time.
LSU will have a new O coordinator, and JJ couldn't grasp the previous offense after a few years. Bama lost a lot of key, experienced players. Arkansas will look a lot different. Auburn will look like an expansion team. And I'm leaving out some team in the west but I don't think they'll be a factor for years to come. Given, all but one of the teams in the West has <span style="font-style: italic;">more talent on paper, </span>but that's why they play the game.
Based solely on last season's progression, players returning, and schedule set up for the upcoming season, I don't see how MSU can be left out of any top 25 poll.
We arent considered a viable candidate for the west because logic and typical reporting, as well as blogging and posting says that what happened last year will happen next. What has happened over the last 10 years will happen over the next 10. what has happened.....you catch the pattern
MSU and Ole Miss are at the bottom of the west where we should be....except that the distance between the two is immesurable.
Same as it was going into the 2009 season....or so some thought.
Fact is that the season must play out, the ball must bounce the way it will.
What people think nationally and regionally is a reflection of what sells, and what happened last year. Which is simply great news for Auburn and schools that sell alot of magazines.
But Utah beat alabama's ass3 years ago. and I contend it can happen in the championship game too.
I dont follow State because believe a group of morons 30 years ago won the NC and will again because they won it 30 years ago.
Someone's got to win it next year. 17 them. it's gonna be us.
MSU and Ole Miss are at the bottom of the west where we should be....except that the distance between the two is immesurable.
Same as it was going into the 2009 season....or so some thought.
Fact is that the season must play out, the ball must bounce the way it will.
What people think nationally and regionally is a reflection of what sells, and what happened last year. Which is simply great news for Auburn and schools that sell alot of magazines.
But Utah beat alabama's ass3 years ago. and I contend it can happen in the championship game too.
I dont follow State because believe a group of morons 30 years ago won the NC and will again because they won it 30 years ago.
Someone's got to win it next year. 17 them. it's gonna be us.
There are AUBURN fans let seriously believe they will repeat this year. Again, Auburn fans. There are Alabama fans that think that their team this year may be the best college football team ever assembled (not kidding). So I guarantee you they would put down their life savings on beating MSU.